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    Only one SSD 950 PRO NVMe 512GB in Clevo P651RG ?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Daniel S. Hansen, Jul 28, 2016.

  1. Daniel S. Hansen

    Daniel S. Hansen Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi guys.

    New user in here and a new user of Clevo laptop.

    Just got a Clevo P651RG laptop spec:

    I7 6700HQ
    GT 970M 6GB G-sync
    32GB Hyper X 2133Mhz
    Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 512gb
    Samsung Evo 850 250 SSD
    WD 1TB HDD
    Windows 10

    Is it true that the one 950 Pro NVMe ssd take up all pci lanes, so I can´t put in another one?
    Have another 950 Pro, but it will not work. :(
    if thats true, can a use a normal m.2 ssd thats not PCI or?

    hope you can read it, im from Denmark. :)

    Thx.
     
  2. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    One pci-e drive OR one/two sata based M.2 drives. You do have 2x 2.5" bays which are not impacted and you can use an m.2 to 2.5" adapter for sata based ones.

    The other option is to sell them and pick up a 1tb 961 drive.
     
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  3. Daniel S. Hansen

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    Thx for a fast answer. :)

    Im gonna return the 950 pro then.
    I wish i know this here before buying it with a 950 pro hehe.

    thx for the help.
     
  4. temp00876

    temp00876 Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi Meaker, I though only the z170 contains an extra 4 lanes for a total of 20. The hm170 has only a maximum of 16? Wouldn't it reduce the 970m to PCIe 3.0 x8 operation just by adding one PCIe 3.0 x4 drive?
     
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    I've never understood why they bothered with nvme in consumer laptops. We do ridiculous computationally intensive tasks so we have to use nvme drives for swap when ram runs out, but you seldom see that kind of workload in a consumer environment. Or most professional environments for that matter...
     
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    Now I'm more interested in what dspboys thought with pci lanes and x8. ;)

    I can not notice any difference in the game whether it is 950 Pro or my Evo 850, I know, but now i have the possibility, so why not. ;) But money/performance not good hehe.
     
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    The reduction should be minimal from x16 to x8 :) though I'm still interested in an answer. Currently I have two 950s but since the desktop 980 runs at x8, there's no way for me to verify unless I plug a 980m.

    As for real life improvements, my 840 pro boots faster than my 950 pro. Gaming should see minimal gains :) File copies, transfers are fast between Nvme drives but if you're copying from an hdd or sata hdd, maximum transfer rate would be limited to the Sata3 interface.
     
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    In 1080p, the reduction is minimal i think, also if i read some test, so thx for that.

    wish i coud have 2 950 pro, but next time i must buy a better laptop. ;)

    my pc start very very fast up. in 7-9 sec im in windows and can pop up explore and surf. But as you said, in game you can see any diffrent.
     
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    The GPU lanes come from the cpu not the chipset.
     
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    That make sense. Thx. ;)
     
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    The PCIe lanes for the GPU are separate to the PCIe storage lanes. The DM models can support 2x NVMe / PCIe drives but the R* models are limited to one. As mentioned above, you can run 1x PCIe but not two in the R* models and doing this disables the second M.2 slot. 2x SATA M.2 will run fine together though.
     
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    That's pretty fast! And while in-game performance doesn't change, loading/transition times will be faster, at least.
     
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    Thats right. Loading in games from map to map is faster. :)
     
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    Workstations maybe, moving a giant database between drives would be great with that kind of speed. Also, future proofing, it's possible that you'll start noticing a difference as new hardware and software start moving more data around.

    Or just to be able to whip out the read/write stats in a drive measuring competition. There are consumer cars capable of speed far beyond the skill of the person who buys them (and beyond what the local speed limit will allow). :)
     
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    4k video editing can be quite taxing as well.
     
  16. Krowe

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    Future proofing is kind of a fool's errand IMHO. You don't know what the future brings, and most of these things are obsolete before your credit card transaction gets processed.

    But RAM Drives... So much faster, and no wear and tear on NAND.
     
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    Fair point, though I see the m2 nvme drives sticking around for a while. Other points still stand, there are end user applications for such speed outside gaming and day to day productivity, and the number of people who just want to have the fastest drive possible even if they're not making use of the speed is not insignificant.
     
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    Depends on the size of the video, 4k editing can get really hungry and if you loose power for whatever reason you don't loose all your data.