Over 12,000 3DMark06 with 8800m SLI!

Interesting article today.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/655/2/

...it has been pretty widely known that the Sager NP9262 will also be outfitted with the newest 8M GPU in SLI....these new elite class of gaming notebooks powered by NVIDIA SLI and two GeForce 8800M GTX GPUs will offer gamers an extreme gaming experience with stunning special effects and high-definition visuals for the hottest PC games including: Crysis, Hellgate: London, Gears of War, Unreal Tournament 3, and Call of Duty 4, along with full support for current DirectX 9 games.

Rene Haas, general manager of GeForce notebook GPUs at NVIDIA says of the new graphics architecture:

“Our NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTX GPU sets a new level for notebook graphics performance. Now with NVIDIA SLI we’ve doubled the processing horsepower to give gamers the most extreme experience for PC games, 3D applications, and HD video on the road. For those wanting the best, this is it.”

NVIDIA has even released some preliminary benchmarks showing 3DMark06 scores over 12,000 in a Dual GPU set up. Looks like NVIDIA is trying to deliver another knockout blow to ATI and AMD. Time will tell, of course, and until we get our hands on a shipping model, we can only speculate. The 8800M GTX/GTS SLI Notebook Platform sure does look nice though!

 

do 3k score worth 1000$ ?

 

^Yeah, thats my question is it work the extra K.

 

ahhh, neat. although they give absolutely no information about anything haha.

Whoever wrote that sounds like they wouldn't know the difference between any speeds of graphics cards or cpus, like the kid who will say "ouuuuuu" as soon as you show them something shiny that they know nothing about.

They say nvidia released preliminary benchmarks showing 12,000 but they don't show anything or link anything.

I think that is way low for this GPU.

I guess they just needed something to publish. Cool pics though, but anyone of us could have written that article a year ago.

 

For 1000$ I could get a much better desktop with real processing power. A desktop at the price of less than two cards (considering they're about 600 or so each).

 

I've seen people get over 10000 with a single 8800M so why would we need two, I mean even if it is 12000 its not a big leap from the 9 and 10000 people have been getting. i could see if the 3DMark score was like 19 or 20000 then yeah, thats pretty *ucking amazing.

 

Mmmm changing from 571ru to a 901c ->500-750$
getting a 2nd 8800m gts -> about 1000$

Im not sure it worth it...

 

I get 15-17K with my 8800's

 

We all know desktops are cheaper, but if that was a relevant argument, none of us would be posting in this Sager and Clevo board now would we. The wonderful land of desktop replacements.

Some people want to drive Ferrari's, others are happy with their Mercedes. Nobody is wrong here, after all, both will get you from point A to point B just fine and in great fashion.

Someone once said...

"Anyone who drives slower than you is an idiot. Anyone who drives faster than you is a maniac."


I think the 12k number was pulled out of nowhere, but who cares about 3dmark. nobody buys a PC so they can sit and watch clips of games over and over.

 

Stupid joke ahead! Don't read unless you can restrain yourself from future stupid comments to what you're about to read (you'll read it anyway)!
Remember kids: the more points you score, the bigger you ***** will be! Get SLI for that 10% performance increase. No money back guarantee!

Anyway, back to real life. I don't get why people would want to spend around 700$ for a SLI upgrade when the performance difference is minimal. Yes, sure there is some and especially when playing games in WUXGA, but 700$? You'd be better off with playing in lower resolutions and buying yourself a consult to a shrink with the spare money. You could also get yourself really laid for 700$. That's better than SLI!
Aryantes, nobody dislikes the D901C (not even me, though it might be understood this way), but paying 700$ for an extra card is just stupid from my point of view. Upgrading is much more stupid (considering you'll pay around 1400$ for two cards). I mean, you're not getting anything more than a dumbed down version of a 8800M GTS card. Sure, for laptops is fine, but paying double for the desktop card on a laptop is a little insane. Think about desktop quad SLI for the money... Anyway, I believe nVidia should get down to Earth with this stupid marketing strategy and stop fooling people into buying expensive cards (at least if it was a 8800M Ultra card...) and put those driver developers (aka the geeks) to work.
PS: I have nothing against people wanting to buy extreme CPUs or cards to use in SLI. I just find them a little insane

 

A new sig comes to my mind, lol

 

lol, hookers carry diseases like mosquitoes.

 

I won't say anything if someone wants to buy a collectible stamp for $50,000. Or spend $100,000 on a fish tank that they want, or buy premium orange juice at the supermarket for twice the price of the budget orange juice, or the $250,000 lamborghini.


If we could all just live with "playing in lower resolutions and spending the money elsewhere" then we'd all be happy in 800x600 land in low details, right? Sweet.


The laptop world can't even be compared to the desktop world, in my opinion.

The latest SLI benchmark for Crysis showed improvements from 30 fps to 47 fps on the highest DX9 settings, and 22 fps to 37 fps on DX10. That seems pretty significant to me and unless all game creators are dumb, they will be making more intensive games than Crysis in the future, not less intensive ones.

Of course, to each their own, but I respect people's opinions.

 

For 700 bucks they'd better not

 

lMore like hope not.

 

spending the extra $2 to buy orange juice that's not from concentrate is totally worth it, if you want to know the honest to gawwwd truth. The difference in flavor is immediately apparent to the taster, much more so than the difference in flavor of sli gaming vs single gpu gaming. I say when it comes to spending $700 extra for the present-day advantage of sli 8800s it's not worth it to me, but to each his own. Not spending the extra $2 at wallyworld for the premium orange juice is just plain ridiculous in any situation. Pulp is great!

 

Agreed. I am merely pointing out the entirely subjective nature of this discussion. That is, the discussion of worth.

I think pulp is great, however, if premium orange juice was $20, and normal orange was $10. or $40 and $20, everything changes, doesn't it?

 

Well just maybe we could get around 14K with our OC SLI 8800MGTX, What do you think? That would be imho good!

 

I personally think 12k is unimpressive. With SLI 7950's we can hit 10.8k, with SLI 8700's you can hit 11k.

I was expecting quite a bit more. Like 15-16k.

 

I don't believe that that 12K number was based on any actual benchmarking. It was pulled out of thin air. Also they never specified the system that the 12K was achieved on, what type of processor was used? What driver was used? That affects 3DMark06 alot.

I am one that needs a gaming laptop. In the Navy, I do not have the luxury of moving a desktop around with me. The most powerful notebook is my only option, so I did get the SLI and for me it is totally worth it. However I expect 3DMark06 to be around 15-16K when properly setup and with stable drivers.

 

I really think that the 12K is just an estimate of what they expect but if it is around 15 or 16k then I will definitely be saving up for another 8800M after I order the initial laptop.

 

If you use the 7950 and the 8700 as an example, with proper SLI setup and drivers, you would expect to see about a 65%-70% increase in 3DMark06 scores. More importantly this also translated in approximately the same increase in FPS for properly supported games. If you take that increase and apply it to the 8800M, I see no reason not to expect roughly the same gain. Once again, it is all about driver support and games designed to take advantage of SLI.

For me, if I could see even a 50% gain in FPS due to a SLI setup, it is worth the extra $$.

 

For two more thousand points it's not worth it. For four more, you might consider it.

 

Not impressed. Anything under 15000 thousand is not worth it IMHO considering that one card delivers over 10000. I'm expecting something around 16000 to 17000 with proper drivers, otherwise no SLi for me untill the next series

Trance

 

Bah I believe that it´s just especulation... they say something about NVIDIA have released some preliminary benchmarks showing that score, so here they are... I need to see them... 12k is just to low even if they used a dual core CPU. Thats about the same as a SLi system of two 8700M GTs.

With some decent drivers, I believe something near 17k on a quad core.

 

My 8700m GT SLI setup runs games great, now the 8800m GTX SLI will without no doubt run games much much better. Why even look at that 3D Mark Score? Of course you will hit higher marks with the right drivers and with overclocking. This is essentially two 8800GTS desktop GPU´s in SLI and that´s not bad at all. It might even outpeform my overclocked desktop 8800GTX

 

i doubt it would outperform your oc 8800gtx sli, but 12k is a lie, it has to be, if not it aint worth the cash

 

This all makes you want to wait and see just what advantage there will be before spending $695 for other card, at least I may wait for an actual review.

 

QFT...dell says 13.5k with 8800m GTX SLI (1730)
My guess is around 15k with the right drivers etc.

 

I hope this means SLI will be available very soon from Sager. i'll definitely put up an SLI review.

I'n guessing around 15k as well.

 

SLI 3DMark06 results for 880M GTX just posted here: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile...rk-List.844.0.html?&or=&search=&sort=3dmark06

They show 9300 for a single card and 13500 for SLI.

 

I tend not to trust benchmarks from that site, firstly:

1) they dont list the test machine used (specs etc)
2) They dont say what drivers was used
3) what OS

etc
dont get me wrong, its ok as a rough guidance.

the 8700M gt scaled well in sli, I see no reason, why the 8800M gtx, like others have said, reach 15k or more with better more refined drivers (good drivers are necessary for good hardware) . *fingers crossed*. I

 

^^I agree and btw, the source of the 8800m GTX SLI benchmark is here: http://direct2dell.com/one2one/default.aspx

 

I agree. I think the 3DMark06 scores we are seeing for the newer, faster cards might be very misleading.

Tom's Hardware actual in-game tests of desktop cards is showing excellent SLI scaling for the 8800 GTX (nearly 90% FPS improvement in Oblivion for example). Perhaps, in time, the mobile cards will show a similar gain in games, if not in 3DMark06 scores.

 

The processor is overclocked (which custoemrs can do and Dell supports) and all the system details are posted here on fututemark.com http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4886036.

 

While the 3DMark06 results for the Dell with dual 8800's might be disappointing for some, there was a pretty good FPS gain in the four animated sequences used in the test. Comparing results posted here for a single 8800 (Vista) with the Dell dual 8800 results looks like this:

Return to Proxycon +54%
Firefly Forest +55%
Canyon Flight +82%
Deep Freeze +62%

I don't know for sure if these improvements are indicative of potential game improvements or not (I hope someone who does know will jump in here).

 

3d mark performance dont really mean jack until you get to real games testing, but its gives you an idea of how the cards would perform, but real game benchmarks are needed.

 

I say if a single card can score 9 to 10000 then how come with sli you cant score 18 to 20K.

 

Dude, stop posting that BS, even desktop 8800 GTX`s don`t score that much.

 

I seen one with a score of 21000 on a desktop, so yeah, just calm down and lets get that sand outta there.

 

WE are talking about default scores, NO OC, so my point still stands. Wishfull thinking will get people thinking that buying a clevo d901c will actually get them 20k 3dmarks! this is forum and uneducated people might think you know what you`re talking about.

Judging from NORMAL , nonOCed scores,not even SLI 8800 GTX`s score that high. JUST CHECK.

Keep in mind that there are even 30k scores out there,OCed,with ati x2900 , so that proves...what?nothing.

Laptop 8800M GTX MIGHT go as high as 15-16 but the normal,expected score should revolve around 13-14 with a quad cpu.

 

i think what we are seeing is the difficulty nvidia has in developing drivers for the 8800m gtx and why the delays are occuring. the benchmarks are shocking are for right now, is not worth the $700 dollar upgrad for sli. i suspect that the drivers will mature in the future, though.

 

The case rest, its still not worth the 700 buck upgrade.

 

This is pretty simple. Noone should expect to come even close to doubling their 3dmark scores. Why? Because 3dmark is not JUST testing the GPU!
So a 3-4k boost, will be on the GPU, nothing else! That, imho is AWESOME!
What is that, like a 40%-60% boost on the GPU?
I mean figure it out!

Also, I believe dell is claiming a single 8800 score of 9k, and SLI score of 13.5k

4.5k boost on GPU scores sounds pretty great.

 

It's the same thing that happened with the 7950's. From 10k to 13.5k is a 35% increase for another $800. With the 7950's single card solutions would get 7k scores while SLI systems would get 9k scores.

7950 SLI increase is 35% 7k to 9k.

8800 SLI increase is 35% 10k to 13.5k.

Looks about right to me. Now when you throw in OC'ing the GFX that's when you will see those 15k #'s. We went from 9k to 10.5k by OC'ing the 7950's. You should expect a similar increase for the 8800's. I.e. 10k to 15.5k.

I would expect the 8800's to range to about 15,741 OC'd. Which is very decent. Your looking at a 50% increase over the 7950's, which again, is in line with one 8800M GTX being = to 2 7950's.

 

Yes, a 35% increase, to the total 3dmark score.
But about a 1/3 of that score is the cpu, which should not increase due to another gpu. So then lets take off 3k from the total, for the cpu. Then were at about 6-7k, then add 3.5-4.5k for sli.

Still look like 35%?

 

This seems about right I think and I concur that this is worth the upgrade... to me anyway! I am planning to wait till there is a trusted review of this before I do my $695.00.

 

I think I will wait until some consumers actually have their hands on a SLI system and does some benchmarkings

 

Yes it does, if you are using the same CPU you should see the same 35% increase from one card to SLI regardless of the CPU. I've seen the same increase when not using SLI with my X6800 CPU and from other users posting their 3dMark06 scores its been fairly uniform. I would expect the trend to continue.

Driver version also matters as some work better for SLI than others. Try it out on your sytem and see how well it works. I went to the nvidia control panel and disabled SLI then I went to device manager and disabled the secondary 7950 (don't disable the primary!) and then ran 3dMark06.

I understand where you are coming from talking about the CPU affecting the score. Quad Cores definately have the advantage there, but for most purposes 35% is about the normal gain from a SLI setup. In some cases you will get a 50% boost but then again your looking at a game running 1920x1200 4xAA with everything on high, with the fps going from 7fps to 11fps. It may be a 50% gain but its still unplayable in my book.

 

Well for me, I avg about 25-45 fps at 1920x1200 is most games, and about 25-35 with 4xAA. Not in Crysis, but I don't even think that game is very good. I think Crytecs engines always kinda blow. COD4 looks better imo, and is much more optimized.

So a 50% boost for me would be about adding another 12-22 fps, which I believe will be the case for most games. Crysis may only get another 8-15 if were lucky.

Anyway, we will all know soon enough. I am just waiting for mine to finish testing and be sent out. Hopefully in the next 2 weeks.