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    Overclockin' NP9262

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by MajorLeagueRap, Jan 12, 2008.

  1. MajorLeagueRap

    MajorLeagueRap Notebook Enthusiast

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    Has anyone tried to overclock the NP9262?

    Does RivaTuner work with it?

    I have one on order and would like to overclock it as soon as I get my very anxious hands on it, but from what I've heard I'm not sure if that is possible...

    my system is;
    Intel Q6600 Quadcore 2.4 ghz
    4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz
    160 gb sata 300 7200rpm
    single geforce 8800m gtx
    vista ultimate
     
  2. Donald@Paladin44

    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

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    The overclocking function is locked on the NP9262...you cannot even overclock the Extreme processor.
     
  3. Aryantes

    Aryantes Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    You cannot overclock the 8800m either?
     
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    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

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    Sorry, I thought you meant the processor. Yes, you can overclock the GPU.
     
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    bhattsan Notebook Deity

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    So only in the np5793 are the multipliers unlocked for the extreme processors?
     
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    That is correct at this time.
     
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    Carbonseed Notebook Enthusiast

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    hi ! i just got the same machine and was wondering the same thing : hence my presence here, i'd like to know how, how far we can do it without any risks and if anyone would suggest us to do or not to do so ?
     
  8. Eleison

    Eleison Thanatos Eleison

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    @Carbonseed:

    The thing about overclocking a video card is that your mileage WILL vary. Even the smallest change carries a risk of permanent damage that no warranty provider will cover. If you've already got an 8800M, you're really not going to benefit from overclocking it, but if you try it, the only way to tell what is "safe" is to slowly overclock, one step at a time. With each step, you do a full test of your system to see if it's stable, and if you find any signs of instability, you lower the clock again.
     
  9. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    "Without any risks?" - You can't do it, period.
     
  10. Wu Jen

    Wu Jen Some old nobody

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    That being said, just turning your notebook on has risks.

    If you use NTune, from Nvidia, if you OC it too much it will let you know and the worst that "should" happen will be that your machine blackscreens and when you reboot it will be set back to defaults. GPU's are a lot smarter than they used to be if it gets close to its TDP then it will shut down. It takes a concentrated effort to make it get to the point where it will take damage. Not impossible but highly unlikely.
     
  11. pasoleatis

    pasoleatis Notebook Deity

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    Why are they seeling the QX6850 with the notebook if the multiplier is locked? The only resason to pay 1000 $ for it is to be able to freely overclock it. None of the resselers mentioned this on there website.
     
  12. Wu Jen

    Wu Jen Some old nobody

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    I can't tell you that only that particular reseller can tell you. And none of those resellers mentioned on their websites that you 'could' overclock it. Your reading more into it than there is.
     
  13. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    True enough; however, if my system is under warranty, then the economic risk of loss attendant to just turning my system on is borne by the warrantor (i.e., typically the reseller - or more likely the reseller's insurance company - or, as with RJTech for example, the third-party service contractor). Unless I use an "unorthodox" means to turn it on, like throwing a brick at the power button. :D

    On the other hand, if I overclock a CPU or GPU that is not meant to be overclocked, then I bear the economic risk of loss attendant on such overclocking, including damage done to any other component of the system that is, or can be, attributed to that overclocking. I also end up throwing away whatever I paid for my warranty if the system is still under warranty at the time because overclocking such a system voids the warranty (generally speaking) as to the component I overclocked and any component that suffers damages as a consequence of that overclocking.

    That being said, I would imagine that, unless you radically overclock all at once, it could be very difficult to prove that my CPU bit the dust because of overclocking. I would think that the cost of the forensic testing that would have to go into examining, say, a 2.4GHz CPU to prove that it blew up because it was overclocked to 2.45GHz would be orders of magnitude greater than the cost of simply replacing the CPU for free. :D Anyone know?
     
  14. pasoleatis

    pasoleatis Notebook Deity

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    You are right Wu Jen, none of them mentioned the either way the overclocking, but the extreme versions of the processors are allways advirtised by intel that they have unlock multipliers. Locking a feature should be mentioned. I remeber now only about mygizmo.com, but there are several other producers that offered the qx6850 and did not mentioned that the multiplier is locked. The most decent sellers they just do not sell it, now I know why.
     
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    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    What that probably means is that, notwithstanding its advertising schtick, when it came right down to it, Intel wouldn't put its money where its mouth is and agree to indemnify the ODMs/OEMs/resellers if they had to make good on a warranty claim caused by someone who overclocked a QX6850 in accordance with Intel's advertising. I would consider that a very good sign that the QX6850 is only theoretically overclockable, and that in reality it's probably unstable under any measurable overclocking.
     
  16. Eleison

    Eleison Thanatos Eleison

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    This is actually why systems that are actually Sager notebooks generally don't use the Extreme processors (the one exception being the X6800 with the NP9262, strangely enough) unless you CAN overclock.

    It's not so much that Intel won't indemnify the ODM/OEM, it's more that the ODM/OEM does not trust the system's stability when overclocked, and they refuse to sell an unstable product. Once Sager nailed down the stability for the X9000, they started featuring it in the NP5793.

    Considering that the current queue for the NP9262 involves:
    A) WHQL certification for SLi drivers
    B) Issues caused by 45 nm processors
    Getting Extreme edition processors functional is pretty low on the priority list. It may happen, but until then, you won't see any Sager reseller offering the QX6850.
     
  17. pasoleatis

    pasoleatis Notebook Deity

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    You are right. the ones offering the extreme quads are not Sager's resselers. Two of the are www.mycizmo.com and http://www.hipepc.com/store/pc/configurePrd.asp?idproduct=985, but they never mention that the muliplier is locked.
     
  18. Eleison

    Eleison Thanatos Eleison

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    Yes, but they are not offering SAGER systems. Sager tends to frown on rebranding, and neither of these companies is offering the D901C as an "NP9262," which means they are either purchasing the systems barebones from a Clevo OEM, or they have a deal to purchase direct from Clevo. Either way, they are not offering a notebook that has Sager standing behind it, so they can load whatever processors they want without worrying about backlash from Sager.

    I'm sure there are several CLEVO resellers that are offering the QX6850 in the hopes that people will fall for the trap, but Sager won't offer it until they know you can actually use the unlocked multiplier.
     
  19. Eleison

    Eleison Thanatos Eleison

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    Another surefire way to tell that at least one of these system builders is just assembling barebone shells is that hipepc.com is only offering the GeForce 8700M (no 8800M option).
     
  20. Wu Jen

    Wu Jen Some old nobody

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    I have a X6800 in my D901C. I've tried 'almost' everything to OC it. Not happening. The BIOS has it locked up nice and tight. I could fudge around with some 'alternative' BIOS flashing, but is it worth the risk of a botched BIOS? Not in my book. At least you can always pull out the xtreme proc and put it in a desktop system with better cooling and OC it till your hearts content. :D
     
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    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    unless you up the voltage and take of the cut-offs :D
     
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    Wu Jen Some old nobody

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    I've never been a proponent of physical mods. I just have butter fingers.