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    P150EM fan noise

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by steven200796, Jun 3, 2012.

  1. steven200796

    steven200796 Notebook Guru

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    Basically, never owned any gaming laptop/desktop before, always had quiet laptops...will the fan noise on the p150em be agitating/extremely noticeable under load? I'm going to be getting 7970m and 3610qm, so I was just wondering if it'll be like I guess disturbing and hair pulling
     
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    o also, does the palmrest get uncomfortable during load?
     
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    steven200796 Notebook Guru

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    thanks, anything about the fan noise?, I heard its quiet during normal use but under load its super loud and annoying?
     
  5. awakeN

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    under load i can hear it from two rooms away

    but the trade off is that the CPU/GPU will never break 50/70 C, respectively, which is prolonging their lives. Also, I wear noise-insulating earphones so it's k for me.
     
  6. steven200796

    steven200796 Notebook Guru

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    I'm not gunna lie thats really discouraging :(, what noise insulating earphones?, i have skullcandies 20 dollar earphones, marshmellow coverings
     
  7. JHBrown

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    Yeah, gotta agree with the other poster, fans are loud. The first night I fired it up for some late night gaming, my wife made me go to another room!
     
  8. awakeN

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    I have Razer Morays
     
  9. crosslimit

    crosslimit Notebook Evangelist

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    since im getting the 3720 i was just wondering if it would be much louder than the 3610, does anyone know anything about this?
     
  10. Tmets

    Tmets De-evolving to Amoeba

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    Should make no noticeable difference.
    Anyway, if you use the power, it's going to get hot, and need fans, which make noise. There's no way around that. A totally silent laptop is a slow one.
     
  11. sab9000

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    I actually had the same exact questions/concerns on my mind. I've seen various threads on this board comparing the sound to things like a quiet conversation to others claiming it is very loud (for a fan). Although a loud fan and certain levels of keyboard heat will not bother me, if the noise is interrupting others watching TV in the same room or causing my hands to sweat then I do have to consider if I can deal with it in the long run.

    I've typically referred my best judgement to the tests run at:

    Review Schenker XMG P502 PRO (Clevo P150EM) Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

    Their test show that the keyboard does get quite warm and that the fan noise will be loud. This is unfortunate but given the power of the machine, there will be expected tradeoffs. However notebookcheck's configuration was with the GTX 675M.

    Can anyone with the P150EM and 7970M judge if the heat and noise are higher or lower than the stressed GTX 675M configuration?
     
  12. hackness

    hackness Notebook Virtuoso

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    I believe the 7970M won't hit 91C which is the turbo fan mode in P150EM. A stressed GTX675M should be running at 78~85C so it's not reaching the turbo fan zone either, both should be the same. As long you keep GPU temp under 91C it shouldn't be that loud.
     
  13. E.Blar

    E.Blar Notebook Deity

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    NO! THOU MUSTN'T BRING UP FAN NOISE AGAIN!
    Oh well, at least people aren't fear mongering so quickly again. It took ages to put this to rest: Between the CPU and GPU 145W of heat are produced. DO you expect it to go away silently? Or maybe you would like it to stay there and produce for you a lovely pile of slag? Clevo may even be nice enough to put some white text on your BSOD that says, "SYSTEM MAY BE BUSY OR MELTING INTO SLAG. APPLICATION ERROR. SAVE YOUR WORK AND QUIT. YOU LOST EVERYTHING. WAY TO GO, GENIUS." or something else shamelessley plagerized from a giant bio-mechanical Chinese dragon. You can hear quiet conversation from 2 rooms away too, though you may not be able to make out the words depending on your hearing and the amount of background noise. This is heat-shielded really well so no abnormally sweaty hands or any discomfort will come from that. As long as the said TV is loud enough that the laughter from a standard comedy won't drown it then the fan won't bother anyone. PNB says that jet mode has been removed from the EM line, and I haven't gotten anyone who actually has one to confirm otherwise. I trust PNB though, so don't count on it being debunked.
     
  14. flyingnugget

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    different cpu, same fan. The fans are loud under load.


    Can someone run some cpu intensive benchmarks on performance mode so i can compare temps? Cinebench, prime95, IntelBurnTest, F@H etc.

    3720qm is hitting 90c running F@H :(
     
  15. jonny27

    jonny27 Notebook Consultant

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    Question: would a less powerful CPU/GPU combo reduce heat, and therefore noise? Say a 151 with a 3610/GTX660. I already decided i don't need a top tier card like the 7970m or 675m, so at least in theory, the more efficient Kepler should have the advantage here, right?
     
  16. valion99

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    Fan noise is normal under heavy load on a laptop. My gateway was the same way, and now my NP9150 is as well. My headphones are on so I can't really hear the noise.
     
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    Someone in another thread gave me excellent advice for playing games silently. If you have an nVidia GPU, you can get a program like nVidiainspector and limit your framerate to something lower but not noticeable, like 30 fps. I've since been playing games on my W110ER silently and comfortably. It doesn't work perfectly with every game though.

    Loud is loud, no matter how powerful the computer is. He's not asking for sound-to-performance ratio, he's asking about sound period. A powerful computer doesn't magically make our ears less sensitive to noise.
     
  18. hackness

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    The only way to access the Jet mode now is by bringing the temp up to 91C. Force jet mode function is removed on the P150EM/P170EM. I've tried on mine and it's real :D .
     
  19. steven200796

    steven200796 Notebook Guru

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    really i know it wont be silent, but it's not like agitating or headache inducing is it?
     
  20. hackness

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    Well the noise it produces without any overclocking (Not reaching 91C Turbo fan zone) is the kind of levels you don't want to be hearing when sleeping, but when you are gaming, working it seems pretty OK. Compare to my ASUS G73 (Known to be the quiet type of gaming laptop) under load (operates at 70C), it is just a little louder.
     
  21. MrLost

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    Honestly there is some fan noise, but you can't hear it when you have headphones or even with the regular speakers playing; at the same time I just got this laptop today, and its still cold even from being ran for 8 hours straight, so atleast they're doing a hell of a job.
     
  22. thegoods81

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    Yeah the fan problems were greatly exaggerated, and the ghosting isn't very noticeable. This laptop is a nice machine
     
  23. E.Blar

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    TDP, not performance, will make the difference here. Go 660m and 3612QM if you want the lowest TDP possible, (an SSD might help), but that's sort of wasting the potential of these machines.

    No, but it does make it more excusable. The fan on my brother's HP probook likes to rev up randomly, especially in screensaver mode, and while it's probably about as loud as the fans on the P150EM it bugs me more because it's not even cooling anything, he's using a 1st gen i3 with integrated graphics. It would bug me a lot less if it was actually doing something.

    So, a bios hack could bring it back? Because it sounds like it would be a very nice thing for showing off.
     
  24. jonny27

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    Still good to know. I'm interested in the P151 anyway, and i can always get a new ac adapter and upgrade it later if i feel it's necessary.
     
  25. steven200796

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    well I'm getting 9170 so :p, like I wont mind loud fan noise as long as it doesn't give me headaches or anything of the sort
     
  26. Zymphad

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    I ordered the P150EM and I will be redoing all the thermals, replacing all the thermal pads and using IC Diamond and replacing the ram with a lower voltage, lower latency 1600 ram. I also do what I can to keep temps low as possible.
     
  27. ImClueless

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    when in optimus mode on nvidia cards do the fan noises go down?

    also are they loud enough that taking it to a library would disturb people?
     
  28. Tmets

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    The fans will be low when the gpu or cpu are not under stress, if you're just doing office type things or browsing. Just don't play bf3 in the library, it might upset people.
     
  29. E.Blar

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    You could also try to do a cooling mod on the back panel if you're really serious about low temps.

    Yes and as long as you're not gaming. My P150EM is very quiet on idle right now.
     
  30. Cloudfire

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    I hear that excuse all the time. Its the worst excuse ever

    "Is the brand name notebook noisy?"
    "Nah I just drown it with more noise or cover my ears"
    ....
     
  31. awakeN

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    but hey, it works. so we do it.
     
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    Is there any way to adjust the fan profiles, so I can set the fan speed at different temps?

    Also, my gpu fan seems to get stuck at a certain rpm after playing a game, and wont fully rev down to idle speeds until I open a program that uses the gpu, like nvidia control panel or gpu-z. It sounds like a driver problem. Im using the latest drivers.
     
  33. hackness

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    I found the same issue too, I've been opening nvidia panel for once everytime when I'm going to leave it idle.
     
  34. Rudlin

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    Same thing here, MSI FX 600 laptop with GT 325M.

    Driver updates didn't help
     
  35. MGoBlue1

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    Is it worth it to add the better thermal compound (i.e. IC Diamond from xoticpc) to reduce noise, or would it not make enough of a temperature difference to affect fan noise or cause any sort of discomfort while playing?
     
  36. hackness

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    Maybe it's a bug with Optimus, that's what I could think of.


    It won't make that huge of a difference. The only difference you'll see is probably 1-5 degree decrease in temperature but I doubt it'll hit the level that the fan starts to slow down.
     
  37. awakeN

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    idk, but I chose it and i've never broken the 80 C barrier. I don't know what it would've been without IC Diamond, but if you don't plan on doing any sort of OCing it might not be worth it.
     
  38. E.Blar

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    There's no way this will get hot enough to be uncomefortable, even with the stock paste. That said, I have IC diamond and one of my CPU cores occasionally dips below 30C\on idle, pretty impressive.
     
  39. italian.madness

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    Hi guys just a quick and 'noob' question: are fans of NP9150 intake or exhaust?
    thanks
     
  40. hackness

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    More like exhaust, it sucks the cool air from the bottom and blow the hot air out from behind.
     
  41. Zymphad

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    Sweet, ordered some Phobya Thermal Pad X 7w/mk and some Prolimatech PK-1 which are both best in class. Reading Prolimatech consistently beating ICD7 and it's easy to apply in multiple reviews without staining, scratching or any type of damage to the CPU/GPu.