P150EM upgrade GPU to GTX 1060

Are you interested in upgrading your P150EM to Pascal based GTX 1060? Let us know so we can allocate time and resources to study this and come up with GPU Upgrade solution to make your P150EM run much faster. Please pass your ideas to [email protected] and tell us what GPU upgrades you would like to see.

 

if you havent done so already, be sure to consult @Prema on this upgrade, since he already managed to realize it in his P150EM

 

Good point - we will coordinate this with him. We still need to do all all testing with various O/S etc to make sure that 1060 solution is stable and is performing well.

 

is the 1060 more powerful then a 980m? (sry im too lazy to look it up)

 

sorry, we're too lazy to answer you

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A fair bit, yes. http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-980M-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB/m15596vs3639

 

Do you have a Firestrike comparison lol?

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Hi i created an account and im posting specifically because of my interest of a nvidia 1060 gtx in a p150em.

In my opinion the 1060 almost completely outdoes the 980m in all the areas i care about while costing less and being more future proof.
the cost for buying a 980m is above 800 usd or around.
You can get a new 1060 laptop for a few hundred more.
The price of the 1060 cards out there is way lower.

So yes Id like to purchase a 1060 specifically from eurocom because you guys provide support n bios for it to work properly.
I been searching about this and even as asked on a youtube video of yours. I mean i bought a clevo for the upgradability of mxm and feel left out so far not getting to buy a 1060. its well priced and better performance for the games that matter to me.

 

not quite accurate, since that is the desktop 1060.

heres a more extensive comparison between 1060 mobile and 980M: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia...-1080-SLI-GTX-1070-and-GTX-1060.171566.0.html

in synthetic benchmarks, the 1060 scores 11% more than the 980M. across 31 different games, however, the 1060´s advantage widens to 31%! in comparison to that, the desktop 1060 is about 15% faster than the laptop model, scoring at 151% of 980M levels in games.

 

Looks like once Prema's vBIOS for the 1060 is made, it will be close to desktop 1060 performance. Then it will truly be a powerful card for its class(980 level).

 

Well, I mean, to be fair - the GPU inside of desktops and laptops for Pascal is the same, it's just the heatsink/pbc/etc that is different.

 

not exactly, as you can see in the link i posted. depending on the laptop model, boost clocks and TDP vary. the only thing nvidia requires an OEM to do when slapping a 1060 into a laptop (or any other pascal card) is that the machine should be capable of holding the base clock, nothing more.

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^
I did, got frankly told not possible? by you guys.
other people have done it. :/
emailed specific to 1060 in p150em

 

The 1060 is a solid option over the 980 desktop card.

 

i wanna buy a 1060 upgrade kit already

 

Guys, keep in mind that the 1060 requires eDP and will not work with an LVDS panel/motherboard.

 

Indeed, very very important point to note!

 

Im completely fine with only using my external monitor/projector.
I almost never use my laptops display. theres gotta be a workaround. but as i've seen no progress except for someone saying One person did it.

Hopefully maybe the amd RX470m board might cut it compatibility wise. But i hope its cheap. Because at the prices of a good laptop card(980m) i might as well buy a new laptop.

So maybe a new thread needs to be put somewhere. rx 470m upgrade mxm b

 

Have we seen such cards in the wild yet?

 

Might be slightly out of place, but information is hard to come by. I am interested in upgrading a Dell Precision M6700 with an Optimus configuration. It has LVDS, but the eDP requirement should not matter, as output to the screen is handled by the Intel GPU? Has anyone seen any info about 1060 running in an Optimus configuration?

 

As far as I know, you cannot have an eDP GPU working on an LVDS motherboard even with Optimus, so I am pretty sure it would not work.

 

i'm watching in your store but there is not this kit of upgrade for p150em. is it the same fo p170em? do you sell this kit?

 

Okay I've tried the MSI GTX 1060 MXM card in my P150em.

It need a 20*20*1mm copper pad, as a choke right next to the core die is in the way of heatsink

Everything seems to work fine, eDP /LVDS is not a problem on P150em as there's optimus.
However, all DP/ DVI/ HDMI are feeded through the crappy ****ty iGPU, it cannot output some crazy resolution/refreshrate ( haven't tested 144Hz but it does not work for 90Hz (For HTC vive) )

It's pretty sad that even though GTX 1060m scored a 8.6 in SteamVR Performance test, it does not have the capability for VR whatsoever.

And given the current price for GTX 1060 (in a standard MXM format), one'd be better off getting a new laptop.

 

Some people succeeded with Quadro P4000m and GTX 1060m on HP 8770w.

I've personally tried the MSI GTX 1060m on M6700. And that's a straight fail. Mechanically won't fit. A choke in the middle is conflicting with the heatpipe. I guess the other GTX 1070m (the MXM form from zotac) on the market will not fit either as I can tell from the picture

Theoritically it should work, with optimus. that MSI card is up running on my P150em

 

Did you try to right click the program you're trying to use with the GPU and select to run it specifically with it???

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Yes ofc I literally tried everything......
It's not the problem about whether the dGPU is used or not.
The biggest problem is that all video output is handled by iGPU, which sucks to no end since 1999. And it's not capable of output 90Hz required by VR

 

Hmmm my NVidia Control Panel says that the HDMI video output (and others) goes through the GPU and not the iGPU....

 

It also says it has 2 display ports and an HDMI. The outputs exist on the chip but are not connected to the physical outputs.

 

No because you have only connected to one display (laptop display)
Try to connect to the external monior and you will see. It's output is from HD4000 instead of GTX 1060.

Though this is weird. I checked the Requirements and apparently P150em has HDMI 1.4, which should meet the requirement of HTC vive. But checking the specs of HD 4000 there's conflicting information. I'm not sure if anyone is able to output from dGPU from the original GTX 680m or HD7970m......

 

Right, I tried the HDMI today, the output changed accordingly to the iGPU :/

Maybe these 2 links can help?
https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/4dtomo/so_optimus_laptops_work_yes/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/4drwnv/vive_can_work_with_optimus_notebook/

 

I have also tried the DP port, no luck :/
I ordered a DVI dual link to HDMI converter, to have a last try.

 

Do let me know! Crossing fingers for you!

 

Any idea if or when the msi 1060 mxm will be around again. I can see they are available at silly prices from canada. Getting them in europe is a real struggle however. I've no problem with hardmods or software. Just trying to find the availability is the problem for me.

 

There is nothing you can do, the dedicated GPU has no outputs wired direct to it and therefore it will never run VR or drive any panel directly.

 

Apparently, the limits to upgrading these models have been reached.

 

Not a bad run considering the chassis started off on the 4xx series.

 

There actually is an eDP port routed off of the mxm slot in EM systems for the very very dedicated. It's present on the motherboard for the canceled P170EM3 system. Lots of mods are required to make it functional.

 

I will not be against learning this, if you have a guide XD

 

I wrote a summary of what was done on TI but never really wrote a guide.

https://www.techinferno.com/index.p...3-hardware-mod-p150em-dgpu-direct-output-wip/

I planned on doing that when I got my 3k screen working, but when I got the screen the edp was wired in reverse. That complicated things.

I wrote some details on how to do the mod throughout this thread starting near the bottom of the first page.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ification-possibilities-advice-needed.802054/

 

Wow, that goes beyond my skill level. Perhaps it will help the OP, though.
If I'm ever in upstate NY I may contact you to see if you can help me mod my system XD.

 

Yeah I can do the motherboard mods in around an hour probably. The eDP cable though takes several hours.

 

DVI-I dual link is capable of WUXGA @120Hz, worth trying, given that the adapter is only $6.
Talking about the dGPU output mod, very interesting, but given the amount of work I will give it a miss. Not to mention that standard mxm form GTX 1060 and GTX 1070 are rare and overpriced. One might be better off getting a new laptop with i7 6820hk/7820hk, better nvme SSD and the capability for 64GB RAM.

P150em is basically just a tool for me and I have no emotion/preference attached to it, I only use it as a testbed for mxm cards (also to flash the vBIOS for those mxm cards which have weird eeprom (such as FX3800m) )

I just hope my Dell M6700 can run VR after upgarde to Quadro P5000m. really addicted to it's Premier Color display.....

 

I got my 1060 from China, cheaper than other cards in the Western market

 

TaoBao?

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Yes

 

I'm just trying to remember if the output was truly dual link regardless of what the connector looked like. I think it might not have been.

 

Even if it is truly dual link, it might still not be able to support VR.
But there's some good news, M6700 and P5000m works great! So I can show off the 10-bit screen and VR at the same time lolz

 

Now I want VR, and I'm sour that my computer can't run it all thanks to you haha.

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It's even more sour when the hardware is still good enough for it however just something stupid like the DP port/HDMI port specs is stopping it from working :/

 

is there a specific thread about this implementation M6700+P5000m?