P150em VS P150sm

I just wanted to clear a few things up. If anyone knows the answers to these questions, please share!

1). Did they fix the audio jack sound problems from the P150em with the new model? There have been many reports that sound coming from the audio jack was terrible in the previous model.

2). Was the cooling solution in the P150em copper or aluminium? It is my understanding that the P150sm uses aluminium (whereas the P170sm uses copper).

3). Does the new heat sink solution in the P150sm truly make any differences to temperatures?


I realise everything else is pretty much identical, but if anyones aware of any other incremental changes, please let me/us know!

 

I will answer all that very soon with full review of P150SM with 780m and personally own a P150EM with 680m. I can say heatsink is copper, not aluminum, but whether the cooling system or the video card, I don't know, the 780m runs about 10C cooler than the 680m overclocked by 40% and vRAM by 33% (680m @ 1000 GPU core, 2400 vRAM). However the P150SM draws about 10-15% more power on average.

 

Dying to read it Wingnut!
Do you have any knowledge regarding the sound?

If not, I'll sit tight.

 

other incremental changes:

matte display bezel on SM
two instead of one mSATA slots on SM
...

 

There's two regular SATA ports, one for 2.5" 9.5mm drives, and the other for one 2.5" 7mm drive, and one mSATA slot. And yes matte display bezel. I haven't fussed with audio yet, although nothing stands out so far to me. I'll check for loudness compared with the P150EM.

 

the two regular sata slots are just on the p157sm bling bling version. both models sport two msata slots though...

 

150 series = aluminium CPU heatsink, copper GPU
170 series = copper CPU heatsink, copper GPU (along with a higher rated PSU)

The 170 include XTU support to support CPU tuning so it gets reinforced a little to help that.

 

Also, to address the first question, I believe the sound chip is the same as far as playback quality goes, and they are still using Onkyo speakers. So any previous gripes with the audio may be prevalent in this generation too, but only time will tell as we get feedback.

 

Let me check when I get home, but the heatsink on the P157sm looked copper to me, and I'll have to hunt down the second mSATA slot because I haven't seen it yet. And XTU seemed to work with the i7-4800MQ, again, maybe my old man brain fuzzy... will verify when I get home.

 

the second msata slot is supposed to be beneath the primary hdd port at least according to notebookcheck http://www.notebookcheck.com/fileadmin/Notebooks/One/K56-3N2/innen6.jpg

the heatsinks themselves are copper, same with the heatpipes. just the heatsink fins are aluminum on the p150 series, whereas the p170 sports copper ones. IF u happen to have both on hand (from ur NP9150), could u possibly do a side by side comparison on temps with the same cpu, pretty please? :yes: maybe also include a comparison between the old two piece gpu heatsink and the current one piece model (if theyre interschangeable on either the 680M or the 780M, that is). me and other EM/HM users here are extremely interested in those new heatsinks and thinking about swapping out the old ones.

really looking forward to that review o urs, as always mate!

 

Here's the P157SM heatsinks, I took these photos yesterday when I reapplied TIM. The CPU heatsink fins are aluminum.



I can open up my P150EM try to install both the CPU and GPU heatsink from the P157SM. That will come a little later (like a few days). Want to finish up some other things with it first. Not to mention work is uber busy at the moment. Always seems to be the case whenever I get something fun to do.

I really haven't spent much time inside the laptop yet though, so I'll give it a thorough look when I go to remove the heatsink to put in the P150EM.

 

It's look much better than old HS , i wait for some tests from You , how it works with 680m in p150em.

BTW

Anyone know its CPU HS(all Cooper) from p170 does fit into te p150??
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yes it does thats why were all so eager for some data concerning temps when comparing the two cpu heatsinks

 

Just a note,

My P150SM has the new GPU cooler, but all the review models on notebookcheck featured the old GPU heatsink, so it might be that they only use the new heatsink with the big cards (and the new GPU cooler, wasn't ready when they did the review?)

@sewek1988, I believe the copper CPU heatsink from the P170 does indeed fit the P150..... I have one on the way as soon as stock arrives at my local so I'll keep you posted

@HTWingNut - It will be worth checking the profile of the new socket so not to risk squeezing the cpu on the EM, I expect it to be the same as the 988's but it could be different as these might be getting smaller/lower profile

Edit~ I also notice from you picture, your heatsink has made better contact around the RAM area than mine did originally :thumbsup:

 

TESTED - New heatsink is compatible with P150HM/P170HM and P150EM/P170EM series.
Temperature are also much more better about 8C less than with previous heatsink.
I overclocked my GTX 680M about 30-40% with 850/2500Mhz core/memory clock and maximum temperature was 81C under full load.

 

Ah, here we go, mSATA is sealed off under the primary HDD bay due to issues with the mSATA controller from Intel.



So for the time being looks like it's limited to two SSD's/HDD's and one mSATA.

 

Wow actual Void Warranty stickers now dont see those on Clevo/Sager very often. Hopefully a software update will fix the issue.

 

Yea, that's pretty rare.

We are getting some other models in this week, I'm curious to see if we will have those stickers as well.

 

awesome, that info is worth gold in my book

 

Shame the fan does not kick into full until throttle on those.

 

I swapped GPU heatsink and CPU heatsink. GPU is 6-8C cooler with high temp games.

Running 680m @ 1000/2400:

Game / P150EM HS Temp / P157SM HS Temp
BF3 / 89C / 81C
Dirt 3 / 89C / 83C
MSI Kombustor / 90C / 82C

Kombustor was run for 5 minutes 1080p Torus DX11 PostFx

Plus scores were a tad higher, likely because the GPU may be throttling slightly at the near 90C temps. Hmm, might be worth considering a GPU heatsink.

The CPU heatsink looks identical, however my CPU temps skyrocketed, and it didn't look like it was seating quite right in the P150EM, I did a second cleaning and repaste with same results. I didn't want to fuss with it any more.

 

Yeah, what I really want it a p150sm with a 680m!
Still very powerful, but will run cooler than the 780m (and still perform like a boss).

 

Actually no, the 780m will run cooler *AND* perform faster than the 680m.

 

Aiiiee!!!!

 

thx a lot for that data! just weird that u couldnt get the cpu heatsink to install properly... u think theres a slight difference between the sm and em/hm models making it impossible to align properly with the cpu in the older machines?

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I actually just had word from my reseller that the factory has a few 7970m cards lying around, and they're considering checking their compatibility with the p150sm and offering them at a reduced price.

Any thoughts on how this might turn out? Or any potential problems which could arise?

I was looking at putting the 8970m into it anyway due to it being $300 less expensive than the 780m. A bargain 7970m in a SM model sounds pretty tempting.

 

hm, how do u know how much cheaper it is compared to the 780M? havent seen any offers or prices for the 8970M just yet...

 

Metabox P157SM - Clevo P157SM - 15.6 inch with GTX 765M, GTX 770M, GTX 780M and HD 8 series graphics

 

ha cool! thanks for the link, nice to know that the 8970M is slowly popping up among resellers

 

Anyone know where to get some of those SM heatsinks for the EM? Those temp drops sure look amazing

 

just ask any reseller in ur area/country

 

Would this new heatsink fit 7970M in a 170EM? Or would it be better to wait for the 8970M heatsink (hopefully also improved)?

 

uncertain at this point. but i guess ud be safer waiting for the 8970M heatsink since its identical in gpu layout to the 7970M

 

i dont think "nvidia" heatsinks work with AMD cards. At least with the 6990/580 this was the case.

I think you are best of waiting for the 8970 sink and see if its any better

 

Oh yes, I may have to give this a try. Heat sinks can't be too expensive!

 

around 50-60 bucks as far as ive seen definitely affordable.

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Along with worth it, look for the copper CPU heatsink at the same time from the 170 series.

 

Will it fit in a 15inch model though? Like are the heatsinks the same dimensions p170 and p150?

 

Yes, same motherboard and casing space for heatsinks.

 

What? I never heard anything about problems with the second MSATA, what´s that about?

Also about the 7970 in a SM series, if i recall there´s a incompatibility with the Intel Graphic card driver (the lastest ones) and the driver for the ATI, this mean you won´t get it working untill ATI updates their drivers to make them compatible with the latest Intel driver (the one with new GUI).

But for your information i tried it, and the graphics works perfect, it´s detected by the BIOS and boots into Windows and all, i just didn´t had enogh time to try to solve the drivers issue, and just like in my EM machine, i couldn´t make it switch with that intel driver.