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    P151EM with 7970m BSOD when playing game?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Enpatsu, Jul 27, 2012.

  1. Enpatsu

    Enpatsu Notebook Geek

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    Hi all, I have used my P151EM with 7970m for nearly a month. The machine runs flawlessly but recently my machine tends to get BSOD when playing games (2 times on PCSX2 emulator with God of War II).

    The CPU temperature never reach 65 Celsius and 7970m never reach 70 Celsius. So in the end what the problem is happening with my machine? I use 210W PSU so It can't be power supply problem. And I haven't countered any other BSOD beside these.
     
  2. Support.3@XOTIC PC

    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    I doesnt sound like overheating is causing it as those temps are fine. Next culprit is typically bad RAM, get whocrashed which will get you a crash report so you'll know exactly whats causing it. If it is a bad stick of RAM then Memtest will let you test your RAM to see if you're getting errors. If you do get errors while running Memtest you will want to remove all RAM and run it with one stick in at a time so you can isolate which one it is.
    Or it could just be the emulator. Do you get BSOD when playing any other games?
     
  3. PuppyOfDoom

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    what struck me about this post was the fact that you have a "p151em" np9130 with a 7970m! who sold ya that? i thought ppl didnt shove 7970ms in those because of the power requirements or some jazz like that but i read you use a better powersupply! sweet. Guess they do work somehow! well im astonished ya have that setup! :) best of luck tooya. hope someone helps out with the answer. you should find out whats causing the bsod by using a appcrashbsodreader some free microsoft developor tools /. etc. there are plenty of tutorials online or you could just try what other forum members are suggesting.

    probably has nothing to do with your card and everything to do with pscx2 inmho if you find out your crash is from the emulator gotta mess with the video settings for... forever! i know its happened to me.
     
  4. joeelmex

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    Play other games, and see if you see the problem. If you have a bad stick of mem, you will see the problem elsewhere.
     
  5. Identitycrisis

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    I was thinking the same thing.

    I contacted XoticPC directly when we found out that 7970m upgrade kits for the HM line of laptops were available. I was told that the upgrade wasnt supported because the P151HM only supported up to a 75w GPU.

    Now I have seen plenty of people running 6970m cards in their P151HMs which I believe is a 100w so it works, but it may be degrading the system? a Higher wattage draw could be the problem?

    Or it could be the emulator? I know sometimes those are always the most stable, although my experience was a few years back, not sure on the state of them now
     
  6. Prostar Computer

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    By the way, who sell you the 7970M kit? It does not sound like a regular Clevo distributor or reseller will do?
     
  7. Enpatsu

    Enpatsu Notebook Geek

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    Thank you guys for replying my post. Sorry because of the limit of my account I can only rep+ to 3 people per day. Already rep+ to 3 people here.

    I used Memtest to test the memory. And as Hutsady said, after only 5 minutes of testing (I run 4 memtest at the same time, 3 with 2047MB and 1 with 1024MB) I got a blue screen (tested 3 times and got the same result).

    I guess this is a result of bad RAM. I changed 2 stick of Kingston RAM and I hope this can be solved. May I ask 2 questions:

    1. Is Kingston a reliable brand of laptop RAM?
    2. Does any person here encounter BSOD because of 7970m? I hope it isn't because of 7970m that cause BSOD (when testing the memory I'm using Intel HD and didn't play any games and I also got blue screen).

    I will play some other PC games to test if it is the emulator's problem or not.

    By the way as you ask, I bought my P151EM in China from a Chinese reseller. They offer P151EM with 7970m, in my purchase they included a second hand 210W Dell PSU. I use IC diamond thermal compound and so far the temperature by playing game is acceptable (CPU and GPU never reach 70 Celsius).
     
  8. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    download who crashed in my monitoring signature below and post the dump report and we will be able to advise whats causing the dreaded bsod
     
  9. Enpatsu

    Enpatsu Notebook Geek

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    This is my report. I don't quite understand what's the cause... :(
     
  10. MrDJ

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    new ones on me. not seen them errors before but thankfully they look like driver problems so nothing to worry about.
    hopefull someone else will be able to advise
     
  11. Xtrophy

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    Alright, it has been awhile, so don't trust my word 100%, but I'm pretty sure I have got it.

    The ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x7F1C0) error you are getting was known to be caused by faulty ram (Or at least.. finicky ram). As for the first one you posted, it is the intel driver crashing, possibly in the emulator if you were running them emulator from it, and may just be a bad driver, bad driver, or fluke. That defiantly looks like a software issue. Since you got errors in memtest I would assume that is the issue with your crashes.


    Although there is a version of the ntoskrnl that causes BSODS due to the boot.ini being corrupt in some way. Have you had any crashes on start up? If not this is probably not the case. I would try the RAM first, and if it works leave it at that. If not then there might be other causes. None of the logs you posted point to the 7970 being bad per say, but with the system going through the IGPU first, the intel crash might have something to do with the 7970m. That would be where my lack of expertise comes in, I have no idea how the intel driver interacts with the 7970 in use.

    I run HyperX in mine, Kingston is a good brand so long as you avoid any "bargain" memory. Kingston calls it ValueRam, avoid that and you should be fine.
     
  12. CaerCadarn

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    How did you manage get a 7970m work in a P151EM? Have you flashed the graphics card with a modded vbios?