P170EM : 720p or HD+ Screen ?

Hi all!

I don't know if the subject has already been opened on the forum and I'm allowed to open this important topic for me =]

Currently, I have a 72% AUO FHD non-glare screen and I would replace it with a high quality 720p or HD+ (1600*900) MATTE non-glare screen

Could you advise me about this ?

What screen ? 720p or HD+ ?
What Brand ?
What reference?
Where?
At what price?

Many thanks for your constructive participation =]

 

Just curious, but which aspect(s) of your current screen do you find lacking?

 

i dont need FHD resolution on a 17" screen
I use my notebook especialy for gaming or working on software like office =)
I think the FHD screens are only for marketing

 

I dont fully understand screens. When i research a screen, I look for things like contrast, brightness, and refresh rate.

Why would you want to go from a 1080p screen to a 720p?

 

You don't like gaming at 1080p? Really? You prefer 720p over 1080p? Don't notice the difference in detail? Really think it's just marketing?

 

That's odd.

Considering you've got a 17" screen..

 

Is there any benefit to what kissme wants to do? Or is it a down grade?

 

He like many hate the gloss/glare/reflections. He's looking for a good matte screen. I don't know why he doesn't just get the matte FHD display from his reseller.

 

Comparing 720p to 1080p is like comparing chalk and cheese there is no comparison, 1080p destroys 720p by about 1147500 pixels. Even 900p looks odd next to 1080p and if you have a high end card you would be nuts not to go FHD on 17 inch even if it is glossy. Hell I run 1080p on a 27 inch monitor with a crappy 540M GT I feel dirty just looking at 720p.

 

kissme has a non-glare (matte).. I have a 720p 50" plasma and i sit about 6 feet from it, and if i compare it to a 1080p :O wow.

 

Oh then I have no idea why he wants to go from matte 720p to matte 720p. I don't think any company would waste time and money developing a low res panel with high quality color accuracy and contrast. So that is confusing.

 

Well...
The problem is screen dimensions
I repeat, on 17" screen there is no interest to have a FHD resolution due to small dimensions and it's just a test marketing
it's just my opinion regarding my gaming and visual experiences

 

Then you need a visit to the opticians.

 

If you want to change your screen i think that you must take an HD+ ... 720p will not be comfortable for surfing, or working on your pc. HD+ is a good compromise, it give you more fps than FHD in games without too much penalize the other utilization of your notebook. But i am sorry i don't know which model you can buy for the replacement of your screen.

 

I'm agree with you Tonrac
But now, I need a screen reference with a very good quality and comptabile with my P170EM

Any idea ?

 

Any 40 pin LVDS left hand (as you look at the back) panel.

 

He could be a pro-gamer; it's common for them to game at 640x480 and 800x600

 

There is no such thing as a high quality 1600x900 panel, and Pro-gamers don't game on laptops, they game on old overclocked 800x600 CRT's.

 

Isn't it a little frustrating that no one seems to get why one would want such a screen?

I have been looking for such an option and wondering why on earth there isn't a <120dpi screen option. I too find full hd a little overkill for a 17 incher. I even started a thread a while ago: here. Then I decided it's not worth the trouble and just went with a fhd auo but if you find a possible replacement I would be interested in knowing the details. However to be honest the auo fhd screen doesn't look too terrible in hd+ mode either - at least in games.

 

If you are going to be using a mid range card like the 650M GT or 660M GT then 900p or 720p is completely understandable but to downgrade a screen when using a 7970M or 680M just makes no sense just to get more fps when you can easily hit 60 or more in any game with these cards at 1080p. The difference even on a 15 inch is very noticeable and on 17 its unquestionable to not go for 1080p.

 

LOL. 1080p a marketing ploy? Is this a troll topic?

 

i havent even heard of a 720p panel for a p170em from any resellers in the usa. the defaults always 1080

regardless why dont you simply have your 1080 monitor display at a 720 resolution. speaking from a gamers perspective... 1080p utterly makes 720p look like garbage.

 

for my use, I don't need a FHD screen
Does someone has already tested a 17" FHD and a 900p screen side by side ?
I did not feel...
I've tested it, and I don't see any significant difference between the two for gaming use exclusively

Thank you for your answer
But could you give me a high quality reference please ?

 

No significant difference aside from the missing 600k pixels.

 

Let me paint you this clearly. There is no such thing as a high quality 1366x768 or 1600x900 panel in any size shape or form. It does not exist, Display manufacturers don't waste their time creating them. They feel the same way as many of us, if you want a high quality screen it's going to be 1920x1080(1200)

 

Get a 720, for you it is good enough AND it gives more FPS on games.

 

im so confused. I do a lot of technical write ups, 3D CAD, and gaming... my Dell is a 1366x768 and even L.O.L. looks better at 1080p. everything is clearer, smoother, more defined in every way.. why else would mobile phone companies be trying to cram more and more pixels into a tiny screen? I keep hearing about 4k screens... what are they? 1080p*4?

 

The subject of this topic is :

- What is screen resolution could you recommend ? 720p ou 900p ?
And
- Do you know a high quality model compatible with P170EM ?

Why some people derive the subject to another subject ? I dont understand...

Could you answer only these questions please ?

Many thanks....

 

My Acer 7738G came with a 1600x900 panel, which I swapped for 1080P and it was for the games. 1600x900 becomes acceptable at 15.6" really.

ALL 1600x900 17.3" panels are bargain basement and you are as good with one as another.

720p is 1280x720 and is the same resolution as the new 4.8" galaxy s3 PHONE. A screen roughly 1/16th the size lol.

 

do you really see BIG difference on game visual quality ?

 

I'm searching for a good alternative on visual and gaming performance

 

Yes, partly because 1080p screens are made to a higher specification, partly visual sharpness. Slap on 2xAA and it looks way better than 1600x900 with 4xAA.

Because of the less pixels you need more AA to get rid of those jaggies too, so I would say it costs even more performance.

If you want more performance overclock your graphics card.

 

As above excellent explanation +1. 1080p does not require AA or very little wereas 900p does so you are sacrificing performance and visual satisfaction.

 

It is true that there are no high quality 768p or 900p screens available. You'd have to be willing to make a significant compromise in every technical detail, to downgrade to one of those.

 

The author of the topic doesn't need your opinion on the subject, respect him a little or go trolling somewhere else.

I was also considering screen with smaller resolution (I have p150em, full hd, 7970m) however it stopped bothering me somehow.

Have you thought about 120hz FHD extended monitor, 22" / 24" ?

 

How can higher resolution "bother" you? I have a 7970m on a 15,6" and there is no way I would need a worse screen to get more fps out of my games. Has the OP tried 1080p? Really the only thing I can think if that could bother you is that everything is small, but that can be changed with options.

 

Hi !
I sincerely believe that the criterion for FHD resolution is marketing
If they want, manufacturers can produce better quality screens in HD + at the same price as FHD
Moreover, it forces consumers to buy GPU and more efficient PC to run their applications on FHD
In any case, I don't find high quality screen HD+
unfortunately, i remain on FHD the moment

 

You have a P170. Quit calling it marketing BS and that you require a better GPU/PC. Yes, it would cost them the same amount of money to produce a 900p screen as opposed to a 1080p screen, but you won't find many people willing to downgrade, so they lose money in the end.

Maybe if you told us why you want to switch, other than it being a marketing scam, then maybe we might agree with you. If it's some lame problem like everything being too small, you can easily adjust options to increase font size, icon size, web page size, etcetera. You can even adjust your resolution if you want to, switching it to 900p.

 

Since 3 years now, I change my PC every year to get better performance and quality in games
I think, if i change my FHD screen's to HD+, I can keep my notebook for 3/4 years while having a good performance/quality

I found this screen on ebay
What do you think ?

eBay | LED Display 17,3" (matt) SAMSUNG LTN173KT01-A01 NEU

 

So play at a freaking lower resolution 3 to 4 years from now. Holy crap.

 

First of all, I don't know if HD+ is a local term or something, what resolution do you mean? A computer screen would either have 1366 x 768 or 1600 x 900. I Haven't tried 1600, but 1366 is horrible on a 15.6", I can't even imagine how horrible it would look on a 17" and 720p is even worse than that.

Graphics cards become old really fast. If you want to play the latest games on the best settings you pretty much have to upgrade your graphics every 1-2 years. Downgrading your screen is not going to change that very much. And as other people say, with 1080p you will need to use less anti aliasing, since the pixels are less visible thus saving more of you card for other things.

If anything is a marketing gimmick it's 720. When HD TV's where new they made called TV's with 720 and called them "HD ready" here in Sweden, and people wouldn't know the difference between that and full HD. Thus thinking they got a good deal on a "HD TV" and getting ripped off.

 

HD = 720p, HD+ = 900p, FHD = 1080p.

It's all a wiki away.