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    P170EM Bios-update

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by powerfull499, Apr 15, 2014.

  1. powerfull499

    powerfull499 Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey everyone
    I asked the retailer, where I bought my computer, for the newest BIOS for the P170EM because I hope that a new version can fix the problem where the fan is spinning even though it is not needed.

    I understand that you first have to update the EC-firmware and then the BIOS. However, I'm not sure how to update the computer.
    Here is the instructions that I got:
    EC firmware:
    1. Plug in AC adaptor.
    2. Run ECFlash.bat under pure DOS to start EC flash procedure, the system will shut down automatically when the procedure is finished.
    3. Plug off AC adapter for 5 seconds then plug in AC adapter.
    4. Power on system and enter CMOS setup to check EC firmware version.

    and

    BIOS:
    1. Plug in AC adaptor.
    2. Enter CMOS setup to disable "Intel Anti-Theft Technology" if the item is available.
    3. Enter CMOS setup to check the EC firmware version, if the version is 1.00.xx then it is necessary to update EC firmware at first.
    4. Run Meset.exe under pure DOS environment, system will restart automatically.
    5. Run flashme.bat under pure DOS, system will shut down automatically.
    6. Plug off AC adapter for 5 seconds then plug in AC adapter.
    7. Power on system, the system will restart automatically.
    8. Enter CMOS setup to check BIOS version and load system default, save changes and reboot.
    9. If the original BIOS settings are different from system default, please enter CMOS setup to change BIOS settings before system loads Windows.
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    What do they mean by "pure DOS enviroment"? Do I have to make a bootable CD and go into DOS?
     
  2. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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  3. powerfull499

    powerfull499 Notebook Evangelist

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    Thank you.
    I have now updated the BIOS and EC-firmware. Sadly, it didn't fix the fan-problem, and now the bluetooth-indicator is always turned on even though bluetooth is disabled, but I can live with it.
     
  4. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    When you say not needed is the GPU fan spinning even when the GPU is asleep under optimus/enduro?
     
  5. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    Do you have AMD GPU? Do you overclock it through software (MSI Afterburner)?
     
  6. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Try flashing it again.


    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
     
  7. powerfull499

    powerfull499 Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah. I have the ATI 7970M GPU.
    Prasad: Why should it help to flash it again?
     
  8. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Personal experience: I once flashed a laptop to the latest BIOS and was unable to change the screen brightness with the shortcut keys. After a reflash, all went well.
    Even though it may not appear as a bad flash to you, albeit low, the chances for that still exist.

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
     
  9. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Yeah sometimes the odd switch does not get updated right.
     
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  10. powerfull499

    powerfull499 Notebook Evangelist

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    Yep, I have the 7970M GPU, but I do not overclock it :).
     
  11. Ashen-Shugar

    Ashen-Shugar Notebook Evangelist

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    I've read on a lot of forums the ATI 7970 runs hot, especially on shaders.

    Lots of references to this on the Asus and Alienware forums as well specifically with the 7970M.

    Also, make sure to run with the latest ATI drivers. Apparently previous versions of it reported the GPU tempatures wayyyyyyyyy out of line.

    Some reported temps of 140c and higher on the GPU with older drivers, which was obviously not correct.

    This would likely also impact the fan profiles since they're reading the same sensors the drivers are providing, which would be faulty, causing the fans to spin on high.
     
  12. littlecx

    littlecx Notebook Deity

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    140c impossible. 104 is reachable
    my one 92c after 10mins kombustor with oc 1036/1614 using atiwinflash
     
  13. Ashen-Shugar

    Ashen-Shugar Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes, which is why I was saying the earlier ATI drivers were buggy, and stating in that post that the 140c was obviously not correct.
     
  14. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Sager use a different mechanism to monitor temperatures so it may be that going a little squint rather than the AMD drivers.
     
  15. powerfull499

    powerfull499 Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm almost sure that it is not a driver-problem. I always use the latest drivers, - and the problem persisted even when I installed WIndows 8.1.
    Here is an example of thread with a someone who has the same problem:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...mpletely-spin-down-after-gaming-p150em-3.html
    And here is another guy with the bluetooth-problem:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/719756-clevo-p170em-bluetooth-indicator-light-problem.html
     
  16. kothletino

    kothletino Notebook Evangelist

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    littlecx i have got max 82 but with 1000/1500.

    And what about powerfull499 problem, can you post the screenshot of your device manager? Also write a list of all drivers that have been instaled on your p170em.
    I don't know how things are going with last stock bios from clevo(or clevo resellers) because i am using prema mod v2 for p170em, on average once every two months I do reinstall of windows and sometimes i had simillar problem with GPU fan which is working all of the time. For example causes of this problem in my case was a not correct order of installing drivers, or involuntary installation of some crap for virtual coins. Perhaps for some of the users it seems ridiculous and illogical but what i had done was temporarily change the power plan from the system control panel from high performance to save power, restart and then go back again to high performance.
    I know this problem from another forum where in topic about clevo p150em a lot of users complaines about GPU fan which is working all of the time, but in most of the cases prema mod bios help to solved that problem.
    From personal experience I might add that the latest versions of programs or drivers are not always the best, especially when it comes to Clevo P170em.(amd drivers, Kombustor, hotkey)
     
  17. Meaker@Sager

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    Fan control can't be a driver issue, it's nothing to do with the OS.
     
  18. kothletino

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    I mean all kind of programs(or drivers issue) that keeps your GPU "working"(low or high performance) but without effects visible to the user, this resulted in fans spinning all time. In past i had this problem.
    I would like to know how he checked that 7970m is is asleep, by kombustor or what ? And i still don't know which bios did he use?
     
  19. Mighty_Benduru

    Mighty_Benduru Notebook Consultant

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    Are you confirmed that it is the GPU fan, and not the CPU fan? Last time, my computer fan was running full speed, 1 min after the computer boots up. I thought it was the GPU fan, but turns out to be the CPU fan. Looked at the opened task, and found out AVAST antivirus program was the culprit. It was a bad update on AVAST that causes the cpu to be running at 99% constantly, resulting the fan to be spinning at full speed. Had to remove and reinstall AVAST to fix the problem.