P170HM build questions. Need advice!!

I ordered a P170hm-3D from malibal a week ago because they had their 3D 120 hz screen for free. However, they have the 3D version on back order so I'm still waiting on it. They said they could upgrade me for free to the AUO V.5 matte 72% gamut or 95% gamut glossy.

My main specs for my orignal build are:

17.3" 1920 x 1080 FHD LED Backlit 120Hz 3D 72% NTSC Matte Display
i7-2630QM, 6MB L3 Cache, 2.0-2.9GHz
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 580M 2GB GDDR5

I could change the following
3D 72% 120hz screen to the Auo 72% 60hz
(maybe) upgrade to i7 2760qm
from the 580m to 6990M

This would save me even more for the screen because the AUO is $65 more. Also, the 6990m is $250 less than the 580. Moreover, I won't need the 3D glasses kit I paid $100 for. So should I go ahead and make the changes? Would save around $415 and the performance would be about the same. Would lose 3D and 120hz. What does everyone think?

 

The main issue/question is do you want/need 3D? The answer will answer your question.

 

No its not really a big factor I guess. Does 120hz make a big difference?

 

120 hz imho is a gimmick. Pretty much everything is sourced at 60 hz, and most films are filmed at 24 hz (upscaled to 30 hz).

 

I just ordered my signature system because of the 120Hz panel. There is a year old review of a desktop 120Hz desktop monitor on Anandtech (8/7/2010 Asus display) that made me move up to the 17" from my 15" plan just to get the fast refresh even though I couldn't care less about 3D. Check it out.

Edit: Here is the link. I recommend at least reading the first page.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3842/asus-vg236h-review-our-first-look-at-120hz

 

If you don't care about 3D, I'd go for the non-3D screen with the 6990. The refresh rate won't mean much, and if you want a matte screen, you could still get a matte screen with the non 3D screen; that way, you can save a bunch of money by getting the 6990.

 

Alex, you can order the 120Hz screen with the 6990M GPU. I have one on order now. Why not advise this? Have you read the display review I linked above?

 

I just wanted to explain why Alex didn't mention the 3D screen with the 6990M. Sager actually restricts the installation of the 3D screen for the NVIDIA cards only, it cannot be installed with the 6990M. According to your sig, though, it looks like Myth was able to. They are more or less considered the manufacturers so they have a tad more leeway when it comes down to it

 

Well man I'm in the same situation, the guys from MALIBAL told me they will get an update today regarding the 120hz panels so I'm hoping to hear good news. If not then I will probably change my build like you said:

GTX 580M to 6990M (and save 250 USD from my current build)
120hz Matte to 60Hz Matte (they said they could do it as a free upgrade ^^ )

And leave everything else as it is, so I can get my computer ASAP because I use it for work and this delay is really affecting me now.

 

I dunno about manufacturers, They are system builders no different from rjtech and malibal unless I am mistaken.

Does anyone know of an MSI system builder?

 

My bad, you're right, system builders is a more appropriate term here.

 

I feel your pain! After 7 business days with nothing heard- I half hoped that I would be receiving a shipping notice! After 8 business days I contacted them and only then was told that there would be a delay- I must admit to being disappointed with the failure to provide any warning of the backlog. I'll wait and see if they decide to give me an update.

I enjoyed hearing about the "free" upgrade from them since it is the same price as the 3-D with the glasses-which is what I ordered!

Ditto- I have a business trip and made sure to order well in advance-looks like no notebook for me!

 

Well Man, I just got an Update on a PM. Looks like MALIBAL will get the 120hz 3D panels by Monday-Tuesday of the next week:

Some of us were expecting them to ship our machines this week tho ^^;

Posted on the 09-24-2011, 02:49 AM at http://forum.notebookreview.com/reseller-feedback-forum/603103-malibal-reviews-17.html#post7938194

I also have a trip to Tokyo on the 7th so this leaves me absolutely no room for issues, meaning if my machine its not 100% perfect (screen-temperatures-parts), I will have to either ask for a full-refund or return that computer and request them to send me another one overnight with the AUO 72% Matte + 6990M and have a 250 USD refund...

By Tuesday 4th I will have lost 750 USD of my salary, so this has cost me way over the desired budget already... edit: However I do believe it was my responsibility to be prepared in case they were unable to deliver it on time (for any reason). Perhaps getting a temporal laptop from Bestbuy to use it during the wait, as long as it was not somebody else or a public computer I could have resumed part of my work.

I must say I am not very satisfied ATM. Mostly because receiving my P170HM almost a month after I placed my order was truly outside my expectations. But I do understand this was out of their control, even tho I would like to recommend that: since they offer such nice promotions it certainly won't do any harm to be ready to back-up for it on a timely manner next time ^^;

By the way, for those who asked me via PM and different posts: I will still make the full review on the machine and the 120hz screen (with pics and video) with different games and benchmark software =) please wait a lilbit more.

 

I ended up going with the 6990m , AUO v5 matte, and 2760. Can't wait for it to ship already! O yea and Malibal has screen calibration as an upgrade. So I also opted for that as well.

 

Why are you telling us what you're going to tell them? Instead of just telling them?

I'm only about 99% sure but I think resellers like (and are sometimes legally obligated) to be contacted privately about business issues?

You stopped making sense at losing 750 from your salary. You didn't make any attempt to explain what you're talking about. And then all the colors, and then this:

Really doesn't make sense exactly what you're trying to say and why, and I'm afraid your formatting doesn't help.
Look, if you actually want to get what you want, this is NOT the way to do it. Unless of course what you want is make Malibal look bad.

 

Ouch, nothing wrong with niff's logic.

But still, a public forum could be used as a means to vent ones emotions and talk to others who actually understand what's going on.

Many of us love just to be here to talk, some may have different intentions in approaching a forum.

I do understand what you're trying to say and I agree that what you say is true, but pointing it out in public is also a humiliation to a certain degree, let's keep things cool.

After all, we're here because we love being here, eh niff?

 

Mhhh... perhaps you are right and my formatting did not help. so, to make things clear I DO NOT attempt to make MALIBAL or any other company look bad, on the contrary I was trying to be informative, if you took it as an attack then I apologize.

I previously sent all information to MALIBAL via PM and they answer me promptly (right away in fact ^^ ), all I wanted to do is share the information they provided with the people that are in the same situation as me, nothing else.

Yes, I should have given a better explanation about my job (I sent it to you via PM, and I explained that to MALIBAL a week ago). Every person is on a different situation, mine its just a bit more complicated and MALIBAL is aware of that, sharing the reasons why I'm so desperate to get my machine is important (to me at least)

Anyways, from now on I will refrain from making this kind of explanations and just talk about whats important on notebokreview, and that's the machines and the REVIEWS, like I said I will be making a full-review on the machine and rate my experiences with MALIBAL when I get my P170HM.

Laters =)

 

Mubay- keep on sharing! The power of this forum is to be able to provide information of the personal experiences of all of us-be it good or bad.

When I started researching a new notebook, I looked at specs to decide on a machine and a configuration. When I decided on the specs, I looked at the resellers to find out about a price. The final piece of the puzzle was to look at any tradeoffs between price and a particular reseller. Since I had no personal experience with any particular reseller, I looked to this forum to understand quality of the products and "customer service". Based on all of that information, I selected Malibal. Malibal had glowing reviews and appeared to be excellent at keeping their customers in the loop.

Unfortuneately, my experience with Malibal has not been optimal. I am not saying that to malign Malibal. Rather, I am saying it so that those searching for a reseller will be able to learn from my experience.

I think the price from Malibal was excellent. They responded swiftly and helpfully to PMs. I still hope to receive a killer machine. BUT, they did not keep their 5-7 business day shipping goal. They did not inform me of any delay until after I contacted them because I had not received the notebook when expected.

To make matters worse, even after asking earlier in the week for an update as soon as they learned anything about the delay in shipping the 3-D screens, I have yet to be informed of any further delays. So, I expect my machine to be shipped today based on Malibal's lack of communication. Thanks to Mubay's sharing, I know better.

Am I disappointed? You bet. When I am spending over 2600 on a notebook, I expect a little better. So, why do I write all of this to this forum rather than to Malibal? Well, I know Malibal will see this and, if they choose, modify their practices. Additionally, by using this forum, I will not start venting at a poor soul at Malibal who has absolutely no blame in any of the situation.

Finally, I write this here so that others can understand that if they are in a time crunch- they would be advised to initiate conversations with Malibal early and often. Malibal may be deficient in initiating updates, but they are excellent at responding to both PMs and to tickets.

By the way, as an attorney I would be interested in understanding more about any legal requirement to only contact the reseller about one's personal experiences.

 

Hi, we plan to start shipping out P170HM-3D systems again on Monday or Tuesday of next week. We're upgrading everyone (who purchased before or on the 20th) to Next Day Air Shipping at no charge to help compensate for the extra wait.

Note: all other models: Lotus P150HM, Lotus P151HM1, Nine X7200 and Satori P170HM are shipping out regularly in 3-5 business days.

 

UPDATE ALERT

I just recieved a note from MALIBAL with a status update on the 3-D screens (confirming Mubay's report of early next week)- and I did not have to ask! (Okay, they may have read my previous email-but they did keep me informed nonetheless!).

Additionally- they are upgrading my delivey to overnight-so I might actually have a notebook for my business trip. They did not need to do this, especially since they have no control over the delay in getting 3-D screens. This I consider to be above and beyond and, I might add, the type of extra effort that I had read about when I decided to go with MALIBAL in the first place.

 

Its nice to have an official public notice here in the forum

Returning to the original post @ Drew3170, Man, now you can decide whether you wait a little bit longer to get your 120hz-3D panel or go for the cheaper config.

Plus if you placed your order before the 20th you can perhaps recoup some time in the shipping

Also, for those who were waiting for the 3D panels to place your order, now will be a good time to do it because believe me, these things disappear! ^^;

 

I am getting close to pulling the trigger on my new laptop purchase and wonder what kind of supply came in on 120hz-3D panel. Any idea how long they will last?

 

Yea mubay, I decided to go with the other config. I paid for my order on the 13th. It would be nice to get next day but they already gave me 2-day shipping. So either way I'm happy with their service.

 

Hi Drew, you'll get Next Day Air as well.

 

Verrrrry nice

 

I am sorry to post in someone else topic instead of creating a new one, but i need help. I also want to build P170HM and want it guarantee to have zero dead pixel or any other malfunction parts because I will shipped this notebook to california and ask my friend to bring it to Indonesia. So it will be impossible to have refund or RMA after i get it.

Is Malibal or other reseller can check the dead pixel first or other parts before sent it to california?
what is the difference between 120 hz 3d USD135 and USD 200? which one is better?
Is it possible to order one of these matte display with 6990m?

out of topic question: why i could not open the link from malibal "Ask us about our Low Price Protection Guarantee for the Holiday Season. "? is it because of not enough posting in this forum?

Thank you and sorry if i post in a wrong discussion and my lousy grammar.

 

Check with Malibal (via email since you need 5 posts for PM abilities, hence the reason his link won't work) on the 30 day return policy. Also, With the purchase of the 30-day no dead pixel policy most resellers put extra scrutiny into inspecting the screen.

The $135 screen is just the 3D screen while the $200 screen is 3D plus a pair of NVidia 3D glasses. The 3D screen is matte but currently not supported by the 6990M (except with certain system builders mentioned earlier in the thread )

 

Hi, if you select the Display Upgrade: A+ Grade Panel With 45 Day Perfect Pixel Warranty on our site - then we guarantee you won't have any stuck or dead pixels. Also, the two 3D screen options are the same - the only difference is that the $200 option includes a pair of the NVIDIA 3D Vision glasses. Note: You cannot order the 3D screen with a 6990M GPU, only with the NVIDIA GPUs.

Lastly, you need at least 5 posts before you can PM us, so that's why you cannot follow that link in our signatures.

 

Yes I think all of the resellers here have a guarantee of a NO DEAD or other pixel issues for a small charge.

This is highly recommended for any unit going outside of the US and Canada.
_

 

Please clarify; I'm a little bit confused, just want to place an order with the right configurations. I do not care about 3d, i just care about matte display and 120hz and 6990M.

So i could not order: both FHD LED Backlit 120Hz 3D 72% NTSC Matte Display (add USD 135) and 6990m (USD245)?

But instead i have to put extra usd 65 for both FHD LED AUO B173HW01 V.5 72% NTSC Matte Display (add USD 200) and the 6990m (USD245)?

Is the FHD LED AUO B173HW01 V.5 72% NTSC Matte Display is the same as FHD LED Backlit 120Hz 3D 72% NTSC Matte Display (Add USD 135)? if not the same, what is the difference?

Thanks

 

Thank you for the information, I think this is my 3rd post then, have to wait for other 2 post

 

I would like to know the answer to this as well. Why can't the $135 120hz 3D Matte display addon that is used for Nvidia be used by ATI GPU's as well?

 

The 3D matte display and the AUO screen are different screens.

Hardwarewise, the HD6990m does not seem to be compatible with the 120Hz 3D screens, so that's why the resellers stopped offering them.

This is what I was told when I asked around, so yeah..

I do wish the 6990m was offered with the 3D screen, but it turns out that it is not as simple as people think, and there were issues with these configs so Sager pulled them off.

 

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