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    P170em + 3720qm + Xtu = Oc?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by LTBonham, Jun 6, 2012.

  1. Mk017

    Mk017 Notebook Consultant

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    4-5 degree running benches, hardly notice with normal use.
     
  2. nanias

    nanias Notebook Consultant

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    I have talked to a Xoticpc rep and he said that a modded bios should give the P150 the 400Mhz overclock just like the P170, since the cpu and the chipset/mobo allow it. so please prema or anyone who is able to do that could please help us?! Since it is all that I would overclock due to heat/needs 4/5 degreees wouldn't kill the cpu and would break the 3.0 barrier!
     
  3. hackness

    hackness Notebook Virtuoso

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    3610QM no OC Preme95 test topped at 77C maybe there's a bit more room, but I have multiple ram heatsinks stuck on the heat transfer pipelines and the copper plate. (4 cores running on 3.1GHz full time during the test.)
     
  4. hackness

    hackness Notebook Virtuoso

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    With this cooling mod on P150EM it topped at 77C during Prime95. Higher than expected. But the 3610M was at 3.1GHz on 4 cores full time during the stress test. There maybe little room for XTU OC if you want full time Turbo boost, if Clevo ever releases an XTU BIOS for P150EM :D. Not sure at what temp does the CPU loses Turbo boost tho.

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  5. Heihachi_1337

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    Don't you think that is maybe a little overkill on the heatsink mod hackness?

    It looks like they bred in there. Are you still able to fit the bottom panel? did you have to the bottom panel?
     
  6. hackness

    hackness Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yes can still fit the panel, I made sure the ram heatsinks are 4mm on the tallest areas. 5mm would be touching the panel.
     
  7. jaug1337

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    There's no such thing as overkill to lower temps on a laptop Heihachi!! You should know that :D heat is laptop owners biggest fear
     
  8. hackness

    hackness Notebook Virtuoso

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    Indeed :D With this set up, 18% OC on the GTX 675M will still hit 84C, but without this cooling mod it'll go up to 91C.
     
  9. vuman619

    vuman619 Notebook Evangelist

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    i always assumed it was better to exhaust the heat rather than try and dissipate it within the chassis itself. that is why we have laptop coolers to push the air in the bottom and out the back of the laptop, this mod can only shorten your laptop's other components life by spreading heat inside the laptop itself.
     
  10. hackness

    hackness Notebook Virtuoso

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    Are you sure about that? This is your opinion or it was proven by someone?
     
  11. vuman619

    vuman619 Notebook Evangelist

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    Sorry I was assuming, when i first saw the mod I thought it was logical, but when i thought about it, they use small heatpipes to try "force" the heat towards where the heat is meant to be dissipated, which is the back where the alluminium fins are. All electronic components degrade more with heat.
     
  12. DVCal

    DVCal Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have a P170EM with a 3720QM. I don't see anywhere in XTU to increase the clock-speed, the multiplier cannot be changed in XTU it is at 26 and can't be increased
     
  13. pau1ow

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    The base clock can't be changed - the core turbo multipliers can, with the modded BIOS and latest version of XTU.
     
  14. james_het

    james_het Notebook Geek

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    on Clevo via Intel Exreme Tuning utility i can OC @ 3800, u have to modify the TDP btw, to at least 57 Watt. This will increase the temps, so use it wisely :)

    PS in 3dmark11 i didn t notice any difference in score, so i set it to 3600 in all situations.
     
  15. DVCal

    DVCal Notebook Enthusiast

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    I see, yes that I can change. Just windows on the XM chips can the base clock be changed, just wondering.
     
  16. Diversion

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    I just got my Sager P9170 with 3820qm and have been pulling my hair out trying to figure out XTU. I already maxed out all turbomultipliers to 41, 40, 39, 39 for each core and nothing changed benchmark wise. When loading up all 4 cores, my CPU speed is still locked at 3.5ghz just like stock. I also encoded a movie at stock speeds, taking 2 hours 2 minutes.. after changing all turbo clocks to max, the encode took the same amount of time.

    Am I missing something? Do I need to increase the TDP for the overclocks to actually work, is that what i'm missing?
     
  17. fenryr423

    fenryr423 Notebook Evangelist

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    this may sound stupid but did you save the profile and apply it?
     
  18. Diversion

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    Well when I change the multipliers, it changes to "Apply" on the right side and I click Apply and assume they take effect immediately.. Maybe i'm wrong here.
     
  19. Meaker@Sager

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    Did you change the turbo power limits to give it more room?
     
  20. Diversion

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    No, I didn't realize that I might need to do this.. What does this do, allow the turbo clock speed to hold higher speeds for longer before forcing it to throttle back?
     
  21. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    At every speed your CPU will have a certain power consumption, it's different for every chip.

    Mine uses about 45W around 3.5ghz so in a long term test it's certainly not going to go higher than that if I leave the power limits at 45W.
     
  22. IannEefje

    IannEefje Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi.

    Ive think i maxed out my 3720qm

    I've set the multiplier for 4cores on 38 but when testing it drops back down to 36 or 37?
    TBM is at 56w.

    Does upping the Core Current limit fix this?

    THx
     
  23. arcticjoe

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    Do you have throttlestop? If so set both power limits to 60w (click TPL button) and re-run the benchmark. Mine would dip after starting at 3.8Ghz, but now it stays close to 3.8 all of the time.
     
  24. wkexe

    wkexe Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello, does XTU work only with those two (3720QM and 3820QM) CPU's AND BIOS from Mythologic? Or all new 3xxx QM + Celvo P170EM will work with XTU? Im am interested in P170EM + 3840QM with 400mhz it would give about ~3.9 Ghz on 4 threads if lap can handle the temperatures.
     
  25. Meaker@Sager

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    3840qm + 400mhz = 4ghz.

    Yes any bios does it and it's 3720qm and above.
     
  26. joshwaan2k

    joshwaan2k Notebook Guru

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    Hello sorry to bump an old thread

    I have a Dell M6700 and a 3720QM can I get 3.6GHZ out of my CPU if so how?

    I downloaded the XTU program
     
  27. Meaker@Sager

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    If your notebook supports XTU simply change the CPU multipliers/voltage/power setting as needed.
     
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