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    P177SM + AMD 8970m Overclocking?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Forgottenbhs, Sep 17, 2013.

  1. Forgottenbhs

    Forgottenbhs Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've tried overclocking the 8970m and haven't had any luck so far. I tried the MSI Afterburner method and TRIXX but they seem to cause 3D applications to lock up.

    Has anyone here successfully overclocked the 8970m?
     
    Forgottenbhs, Sep 17, 2013
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    How much are you increasing the frequency?
     
    Meaker@Sager, Sep 17, 2013
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    If I increase the clock speed by 10mhz 3d applications just freeze and i'm forced to shut down. I've tried the stock Clevo drivers as well as the 13.8 Beta 2 and 13.10 Beta drivers and none of them seem to work. I did uninstall all amd drivers and use Driver Sweeper in Safe mode to make sure everything got deleted and tried different Intel drivers as well.
     
    Forgottenbhs, Sep 17, 2013
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    can you check your voltage under load through gpu-z?
     
    Red Line, Sep 17, 2013
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    That's another thing, GPU-Z crashes when I try to use it. I have HWInfo displaying all that information. Voltage goes up to 1.050 under 3d clocks but i'm unable to see that information after opening a 3d application since it freezes my whole system.
     
    Forgottenbhs, Sep 17, 2013
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    Can you lower the clock ok?
     
    Meaker@Sager, Sep 19, 2013
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    Ive overcloking the core to 1100mhz succesfully even getting over 7800 3dmarks, but when I even try to budge the Vram clock, i get black screen in about 5 secs and have to press power button, this, on a p150sm
     
    pilililo2, Sep 20, 2013
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  8. Forgottenbhs

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    What overclocking tool are you using?
     
    Forgottenbhs, Sep 21, 2013
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    Afterburner 3.0.0 beta 14. Since it has the AMD compatibility options
     
    pilililo2, Sep 21, 2013
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    I'll give that a try and leave memory clocks alone and see if it does anything for me. Thanks for the tip!

    Edit: Are you also experiencing issues with the core clock throttling? It doesn't seem to stay at 900mhz clock for very long.
     
    Forgottenbhs, Sep 23, 2013
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  11. pilililo2

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    Havent checked, but will do. I havent noticed it though
     
    pilililo2, Sep 23, 2013
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    nope no throtling
     
    pilililo2, Sep 24, 2013
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    edit: nevermind. I too cannot up the memory speed at all. Have benched the core to 1ghz so far. 8970m on p170sm.
     
    zestranger, Oct 9, 2013
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    You could give asus gpu tweak a go.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Oct 9, 2013
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    Will do. Could you pass a link for the program?
     
    pilililo2, Oct 10, 2013
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  16. Meaker@Sager

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    Pop asus gpu tweak into google and go to the first real link to the asus website.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Oct 10, 2013
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    Trying right now. Will post back.
     
    pilililo2, Oct 11, 2013
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    Cool, i used it for my 7770M due to the clock ranges and voltage control it gave me.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Oct 11, 2013
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    Nope, nothing speacial. Same blackscreen after a few seconds after changing mem clock and whole pc freezes. :(
     
    pilililo2, Oct 11, 2013
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    Overclocking is luck of the draw, you may have got a sample that only just passed the required quality for shipping.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Oct 12, 2013
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    But seems like nobody has been able to overclock the 8970Ms mem clock.
     
    pilililo2, Oct 13, 2013
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    You could get svl7 to take a look at the vbios for you over at tech inferno.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Oct 13, 2013
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    Same issue here, cannot overclock memory clock.

    Seems like keeping my old 7970m would've been a better option. I could get the memory clock on that card up to 1500mhz and core up to 950 wthout issues.
     
    Forgottenbhs, Oct 16, 2013
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  24. 2-Girls-1-Pudge

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    i got a p170sm with the same issue as you guys overclocking the memory let the drivers crash. seems as there will be no solution for this for 2013^^
    but i can overclock my gpu up to 1025 and dont get any crashs durings benchmarks (msi kombuster) and games ( dota 2,fifa 14,...) with afterburner 2.3.1 and 13.11 Beta
     
    2-Girls-1-Pudge, Nov 23, 2013
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  25. pilililo2

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    Same here, i can overclock gpu core past 1025 but even if i move the memory clock 1mhz it just blackscreens and i have to force shutdown :(
     
    pilililo2, Nov 24, 2013
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  26. Marecki_clf

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    Have you tried "UnofficialOverclockingMode = 2" setting in MSIAfterburner.cfg?
     
    Marecki_clf, Nov 27, 2013
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    Will try on the weekend. will post back
     
    pilililo2, Nov 28, 2013
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    Nope. Same as always. Black screen
     
    pilililo2, Dec 3, 2013
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    Hmm this doesnt bode well for my OC'ing HD 8970M plans. :(
     
    geko95gek, Dec 9, 2013
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    Yeah I'm considering selling this laptop and buying a new one with the GTX 780m. It's still a very good machine though. Do you guys know any places where we can sell besides Ebay and Amazon?
     
    Forgottenbhs, Dec 9, 2013
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  31. geko95gek

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    Hmm I wouldnt go that far mate, can you not just upgrade to a 780M in your current laptop?? If I was you I wouldn't bother getting rid of the 8970M, Mantle is coming and its gonna bring good things... plus AMD has partnered with many game developers to improve gameplay. I bought a laptop with a 8970M and I'm really happy with the results, so glad I didin't waste all that extra money for nVidia drivers... meh they need to re-think their ridiculous pricing.

    If you really have money to blow on a new GPU or Laptop you could always try selling your old one on Notebookcheck Marketplace.
     
    geko95gek, Dec 9, 2013
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    That does seem a little extreme, I ran an EM with a 7970M back in the early days and while I did notice an impact to performance compared to the non enduro 7970M I had with a 2nd gen I7 it was not that bad.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Dec 9, 2013
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  33. geko95gek

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    Back in the early days? lol 7970M isnt even that old a card, about 1 year right?
     
    geko95gek, Dec 10, 2013
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    Closer to two years now rather than 1 (about 20 months).
     
    Meaker@Sager, Dec 10, 2013
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  35. geko95gek

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    Ah wow thats old lol, and it still kicks nVidia's backside in terms of price/performance ratio :p
     
    geko95gek, Dec 12, 2013
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    In terms of tech it's ancient, I mean we could go back to talking about the voodoo3 days and games like rollcage if you want but that might not be so relevant :p
     
    Meaker@Sager, Dec 13, 2013
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  37. geko95gek

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    Oh dont start me off on Rollcage and Rollcage 2, the soundtrack by Moving Shadow was wicked lol
     
    geko95gek, Dec 13, 2013
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    hi guys
    I've found two posts that could possibly be interesting
    8970M Overclock Help! - Page 2
    in the first one has tried to unlock the 8970m in the same way like others did before with the 7970M but the only possibility is flashing the card.
    ObscureParadox`s Unigine Heaven - Xtreme Preset score: 1745.75 DX11 Marks with a Radeon HD 8970M
    in the second I have found a benchmark result with screenshot which shows a overclocked 8970m ( GPU and Memory ).
    someone knows how it works or found another way to overclock the memory sucessful?
     
    2-Girls-1-Pudge, Feb 15, 2014
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  39. Meaker@Sager

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    That's a different brand of card.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Feb 16, 2014
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    I can edit 7970m or 8970m vbios if someone need :p
     
    Coca, Feb 16, 2014
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    So did this 8970M memory overclock issue ever get sorted out? I'm on a 7970M, but curious.
     
    Slovedon, Feb 23, 2014
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    LeeKM, Feb 23, 2014
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    Marecki_clf and geko95gek like this.
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    What's the deal with the memory clock on the 8970M, is it locked down from the BIOS front or something?
     
    n=1, Feb 23, 2014
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    It seems to have some sort of lock on it, changing the vbios settings should work though.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Feb 24, 2014
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    i would like a solution on this :) there is another thread in general call 8970m guide or something where someone else is working on this too
     
    cozmosland, Feb 26, 2014
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    Yeah there is a limit to the OC possible on the memory clock. I think it's 1375Mhz, I found that this can be unlocked with the latest Afterburner beta. Not sure if setting higher frequency than 1375 would take effect though as I haven't tried it.

    Sent from my baked potato
     
    geko95gek, Feb 26, 2014
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    how?

    mine still crashes...
    maybe your laptop is lucky,, im using a p150sm and have had no luck
     
    cozmosland, Feb 26, 2014
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    Ok ok, but what about voltage? i mean you get max mem freq @ stock of ov ? My 7970m go with mem @ 1550 ov(1.1v), and about 1400 with stock(1.0v) and this are the same cards, moded vbios dont work also ?
     
    kothletino, Feb 28, 2014
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    Your core voltage should not really change your max mem clocks. :/
     
    Meaker@Sager, Mar 1, 2014
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    I have also change core freq at specified voltage, the point was to get max performance with no issues. It may be possible to achieve 1,5k @ stock, I really do not know, I have not tried. What i see that 8970m oc worse than 7970m.
     
    kothletino, Mar 1, 2014
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