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    P1xxSM User Manual Posted!

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by hizzaah, Apr 25, 2013.

  1. hizzaah

    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

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    P150SM/P157SM/P170SM/P177SM

    Direct download links:

    - English User Manual
    - 5-Language Concise User Manual

    Not sure if those links will stay active... Now for the goods :cool:

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    Specifications:
    Processor
    For Models A, B, D & E Only:
    Intel® Core™ i7-4930MX (3.00GHz) Extreme Edition Processor
    8M L3 Cache, 22nm (22 Nanometer), DDR3L-1600MHz, TDP 57W


    For All Models:
    Intel® Core™ i7-4900MQ (2.80GHz) Processor
    8M L3 Cache, 22nm (22 Nanometer), DDR3L-1600MHz, TDP 47W

    Intel® Core™ i7-4800MQ (2.70GHz) Processor
    6M L3 Cache, 22nm (22 Nanometer), DDR3L-1600MHz, TDP 47W

    Intel® Core™ i7-4700MQ (2.40GHz) Processor
    6M L3 Cache, 22nm (22 Nanometer), DDR3L-1600MHz, TDP 47W

    Core Logic
    Mobile Intel® HM87 Express Chipset

    Memory
    Dual Channel DDR3L

    Four 204 Pin SO-DIMM Sockets
    Supporting DDR3L 1600 MHz Memory Modules (real operational frequency depends on the FSB of the processor)

    *Note: Four SO-DIMMs are only supported by Quad-Core CPUs; Dual-Core CPUs support two SO-DIMMs maximum

    Memory Expandable up to 16GB/32GB
    Compatible with 2GB/4GB/8GB Modules

    Display
    Models A, B & C:
    15.6" (39.62cm) FHD (1920 * 1080) 16:9 Backlit Panel

    Model D & E:
    17.3" (43.94cm) FHD (1920 * 1080) 16:9 Backlit Panel

    Video Adapter Options
    Intel® Integrated GPU with NVIDIA® GeForce Video:
    NVIDIA® Optimus Technology Supports Switchable GPU (iGPU or dGPU)


    Intel® HD Graphics Integrated GPU (GPU type is processor dependent)
    Dynamic Frequency Intel® Dynamic Video Memory Technology Supporting Shared Memory up to 1.7GB


    For Models A, B, D & E Only:
    NVIDIA® GeForce GTX 780M PCIe * 16 Video Card
    4GB GDDR5 Video RAM
    Microsoft DirectX® 11 compatible
    NVIDIA PhysX™
    NVIDIA CUDA™ Technology
    NVIDIA® Optimus 1.2 Technology

    For All Models:
    NVIDIA® GeForce GTX 770M PCIe * 16 Video Card
    3GB GDDR5 Video RAM
    Microsoft DirectX® 11 compatible
    NVIDIA PhysX™
    NVIDIA CUDA™ Technology
    NVIDIA® Optimus 1.2 Technology


    NVIDIA® GeForce GTX 765M PCIe * 16 Video Card
    2GB GDDR5 Video RAM
    Microsoft DirectX® 11 compatible
    NVIDIA PhysX™
    NVIDIA CUDA™ Technology
    NVIDIA® Optimus 1.2 Technology

    Storage
    Two mSATA Solid State Drives (SSDs)with SATA (Serial) Interface with RAID Level 0/1 Support (Factory Option)

    One 12.7 mm Super Multi/Blu-Ray Combo/Blu-Ray Writer SATA Optical Device Drive (Factory Option)

    For Models A & C:
    One Changeable 2.5" 9.5 mm (h) Hard Disk Drive (HDD) / Solid State Drive (SSD) with SATA Interface

    For Model B Only:
    Two Changeable 2.5" (h) Hard Disk Drives (HDD) / Solid State Drives (SSD), 1st 9.5mm (h) & 2nd 7mm (h), with SATA Interface supporting RAID Level 0/1

    For Models A & C:
    One Changeable Caddy Bay 12.7mm (h) Optical Device Drive (ODD), 2.5" 9.5 mm (h) Hard Disk Drive (HDD) with SATA Interface (Factory Option)

    For Models D & E:
    Two Changeable 2.5" 9.5 mm (h) Hard Disk Drives (HDD) / Solid State Drives (SSD) with SATA Interface and RAID Level 0/1 Support

    BIOS
    One 48Mb SPI Flash ROM AMI BIOS

    Audio
    High Definition Audio
    S/PDIF Digital Output
    Built-In Microphone
    2 Built-In Speakers
    1 Built-In Sub Woofer
    Sound Blaster® X-Fi® MB3
    7.1CH Audio output supported by headphone, microphone, S/PDIF & Line-In Jack

    Keyboard/Pointing Device
    For Models A, B D & E Only:
    Full Size Winkey Illuminated Keyboard with Numeric Keypad and W/A/S/D Game Key Markings (Model C has a Non-Illuminated Keyboard)

    Built-In TouchPad (with Multi Gesture Functionality)

    For Models B & E Only:
    Built-In Illuminated TouchPad (with MultiGesture Functionality)

    Idicators
    LED Indicators - Power/Suspend, Battery, HDD/ODD, Airplane Mode, GPU Mode, Num Lock, Caps Lock, Scroll Lock, Camera

    Interface
    One USB 2.0 Port
    Three USB 3.0 Ports (Note: One powered USB3.0 port (AC/DC)
    One eSATA Port (SATA USB 3.0 Combo)
    One Mini-IEEE1394a Port
    One Display Port 1.2
    One Mini Display Port 1.2
    One HDMI™ (High-Definition Multimedia Interface) Out Port (with HDCP)
    One Microphone-In Jack
    One Headphone/Speaker-Out Jack
    One S/PDIF Out Jack
    One Line-In Jack
    One RJ-45 LAN Jack
    One DC-In Jack

    Security
    Security (Kensington® Type) Lock Slot
    BIOS Password
    Fingerprint Reader Module (Factory Option)

    Slots
    Three Mini-Card Slots:
    Slot 1 for WLAN or WLAN & Bluetooth Combo Half Mini-Card Module with PCIe and USB Interface
    Slots 2 & 3 for mSATA SSD Full Size Mini-Card Module with SATA Interface

    Card Reader
    Reader
    - MMC / RSMMC
    - SD / Mini SD / SDHC / SDXC
    - MS / MS Pro / MS Duo

    Note: Some of these cards require PC adapters that are usually supplied with the cards.

    Communication
    Built-In 10/100/1000Mb Base-TX Ethernet LAN

    Intel® Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 3*3 (802.11 a/g/n) Half Mini-Card PCIe WLAN Module (Factory Option)

    Intel® Centrino Advanced-N 6235 2*2 (802.11 a/g/n) Half Mini-Card PCIe WLAN + Bluetooth V4.0+HS Combo Module (Factory Option)

    Intel® Centrino® Wireless-N 2230 2*2 (802.11 b/g/n) Half Mini-Card PCIe WLAN + Bluetooth V4.0+HS Combo Module (Factory Option)

    (802.11b/g/n) Half Mini-Card PCIe WLAN + Bluetooth V4.0+HS Combo Module (Factory Option)

    2.0M FHD PC Video Camera Module

    Operating System
    Windows® 8

    Features
    Rubber Painted Style (Models A, B & E)
    Painted Style (Model C)
    Al-Alloy Plate (Model D)
    Intel® Rapid Start Technology
    Intel® Smart Response Technology
    Intel® Anti-Theft Technology

    Power Management
    Supports Wake on LAN
    Supports Wake on USB
    Supports Wake on RTC Alarm

    Power
    Removable 8 Cell Smart Lithium Ion Battery Pack 76.96WH

    Model A & B:
    Full Range AC/DC Adapter – AC in 100 - 240V, 50 - 60Hz DC Output 19V, 9.5A; 19.5V, 9.2A & 19V, 9.47A (180 Watts)

    Model C:
    Full Range AC/DC Adapter – AC in 100 - 240V, 50 - 60Hz DC Output 19.5V, 6.15A (120 Watts)

    Model D & E:
    Full Range AC/DC Adapter – AC in 100 - 240V, 50 - 60Hz DC Output 19.5V, 11.8A (230 Watts)

    Environmental Spec
    Temperature
    Operating: 5°C - 35°C
    Non-Operating: -20°C - 60°C

    Relative Humidity
    Operating: 20% - 80%
    Non-Operating: 10% - 90%

    Physical Dimensions and Weight
    Model A:
    376mm(w) * 256mm(d) * 35 - 43mm(h)
    3.1kg with ODD and Battery

    Model B:
    375mm(w) * 268mm(d) * 22 - 45mm(h)
    3.3kg with ODD and Battery

    Model C:
    376mm(w) * 256mm(d) * 35 - 43mm(h)
    3.1kg with ODD and Battery

    Model D:
    412mm(w) * 276mm(d) * 45.4 - 41.8mm(h)
    3.9kg with ODD and Battery

    Model E:
    414mm(w) * 286mm(d) * 25.3 - 46.1mm(h)
    4.1kg with ODD and Battery
     
  2. Support.1@XOTIC PC

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    Shhhh!!! Not supposed to know that ;)
     
  3. hizzaah

    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

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    Don't worry, I'm sure no one will read it anyway ;)

    I see it says that model D is an Al-Alloy Plate..?
     
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    Support.1@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    Wish I could help out with the speculation, excited for the release though. Should be good
     
  5. hizzaah

    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

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    It's alright, we all understand! I think when I posted the 1xxEM user manual last year the thread got ~17k views in the 5mo people contributed to it. Hopefully this thread will get plenty of people good and hyped for the release!

    I submitted to have the SM added after 1xx in the title. Forgot to type it in all the copy/pasting I was doing :p
     
  6. mythlogic

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    Its the same plate thats on the P170HM and P170EM
     
  7. hizzaah

    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

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    Oh, palmrest and lid? duh, I should've noticed it was referring to the 170EM. Thanks
     
  8. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    damn, 15" model with two msata AND two 2.5" storage bays???? thats insane :D

    thx for the headsup hizzaah +rep :)

    excited as usual for the next round of clevo hardware coming up! even tho im not gonna get a new system until next year ;)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Notice this would make the 765M a 128bit card....
     
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    pfft shut it, he is just doing what you resellers should have done. :)
     
  11. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Resellers are supposed to burn their bridges with suppliers, I must take notes Cloud.....
     
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    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Yeah because Clevo would notice if they published it on pastebin etc. In secrecy of course. :)
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    I'm not seeing what can be gained by releasing details slightly earlier and risking a very important relationship.
     
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    Note how there is "GPU Mode" LED Indicator. Is that what I think it is? FN+F7 for Clevo O:
     
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    roughavoc Notebook Consultant

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    Also you guys seem to be getting Creative sound (at least software), no more having to buy an external sound card

    Looking like Clevo aren't making the same mistakes as before! Looking good for y'all
     
  16. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Msi indicate which gpu but do not have manual switching. The bios lists no option.
     
  17. Zymphad

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    All Clevo's use Creative MB software...

    Definitely wait until next year, maybe they will have manual switching for GPU.
     
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    CLEVO P157SM P177SM GTX780M
    More pictures for the P157sm.
    don't know if it's posted or not.
    But I still prefer the P150 old look, more professional and sleek.
     
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    Operating system: Windows 8... no 7?
     
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    i love windows 8!!!!!!!
     
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    Please tell me youre joking? I can`t stand Windows 8 and Metro. Seriously hate it. Luckily I heard that Windows Blue will have start button and will boot in to desktop instead of Metro.
     
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    I can't stand metro either so the first thing I did when I installed windows 8 was to install start8. Now its pretty much just a faster booting windows 7 for me, which I'm fine with.
     
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    Yeah, not too sure about the symbol used for the illuminated touchpad... I noticed in the user manual too
     
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    I don`t like the idea of having to rely on third party applications to remove functions on a software that shouldn`t even be there in the first place. So I seriously regret I bought that Win8 license since I would have voted with my wallet (not bought it). I wish more people would do that. Withold a purchase until Windows themselves issues a update that removes Metro. Luckily their sales have been pretty bad, so I think the recent development in Blue with start button and desktop boot is a response to that :)
     
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    its fine, since one can still choose between the classic nonflashy look and the new design. although i dont understand why theyre trying to push the new look by giving that model more hardware candy (e.g. two storage bays for a 9.5" and a 7" hard drive instead of just one 9.5") :(

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
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    Because they want to give people the option if they want the extra weight too.
     
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    i understand that, but theyre only offering the two storage bays on the flashy looking model, not on the classic one...
     
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    Yes but the weight is in part the modified casing allowing it to fit.
     
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    I'm disappointed they did not bring back the Fn+5 Enhanced Audio hardware feature from the P170HM. If that means the built in speakers are still going to be as bad as they were on the EM series, I might be looking at an MSI this go around.
     
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    I thought they use something similar to the P370EM's THX thing? But this time it's creative labs?
     
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    I read that the start button will still only open the start page. Way to not understand your customers, Microsoft.
     
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    THX TruStudio also was Creative Labs.
    Basically, this XiFi MB3 is just a rebrand/new version of THX TruStudio. Because, you know, most people by now know that TruStudio does (hint: nothing substantial if hardware is not good), so now its time to roll out new name which reputation is not ruined yet.
     
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    We know it's bad ingvarr but according to a lot of people, the trustudio does a lot of difference on the P370EM compared to not having it on. You're still looking through the standards of an audiophile XD. Just because it still relatively stinks, doesn't mean it's not better than not using it.

    But either way, I don't know how the audio is or will be in those machines. I haven't heard people complain too much about the P370EM's audio except to say that it lacks bass.
     
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    I am not saying that this software does not do *anything*. For example, for Clevos its used to achieve proper crossover, so you won't be getting functional subwoofer without it.
    I was mainly referring to sneaky tactics of putting "THX" or "Sound Blaster" label on something that in fact uses 0% of Sound Blaster hardware, but ordinary (and sloppily implemented) Realtek codec, like any other 3x times cheaper laptop. The intention is pretty clear - to trick customers on thinking that some kind of Creative soundcard is inside. Same as with this "Onkyo" label.
     
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    Honestly I would rather Clevo dedicate the space necessary for a subwoofer on a notebook for either better cooling/airflow, or extra hardware capacity like mSATA. If I want good sound playback I hook up my notebook to my receiver or my 2.1 channel computer sound system. I always find it amusing when people (not directed at Ingvarr) negatively critique a notebook's (or monitor/LCD TV's) lacking sound system. It shouldn't be a selling point of the device, and I agree with Ingvarr in that manufacturers shouldn't try to make it such by means of deceptive marketing. The fact of the matter is that if you want high quality sound reproduction with any computer or console then you will have to invest in an aftermarket system or decent headphones. To me the speakers that come with a new notebook, desktop, LED TV, or monitor should be just enough to get by, and I would rather pay a premium for my own aftermarket sound system and not for the speakers that come with the device. Manufacturers should focus their attention on other selling points and not waste money on subwoofers and high quality speakers because to many of us it won't make a difference. I know everyone has different needs but as long as the OEM speakers work it doesn't make a difference to me.
     
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    Very well put!
     
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    I had a ThinkPad W701, it had no subwoofer at all, just two usual small stereo speakers and Realtek codec. But I'd prefer its sound over Clevos any time - the speakers lacked bass, but output was very clear (especially for voice) and no resonance/vibrations. Also audio jack output was amazingly clean - I never actually needed external card with it (for headphones at least). When I opened it, I realized why - they had separate small "audio board", which was in the opposite corner of the case to the mainboard, removing it from noise sources.
    For me it was an example of proper sound for laptop - nothing over the top. And Lenovo didn't try to lure consumer with fancy audiophile labels on case. In fact they barely mentioned sound output in specs at all.
     
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    I can understand the dissatisfaction with the whole marketing thing. It's like HP Beats Audio. It's pure marketing and doesn't really offer anything above average for a consumer. But as "bangbangplay" stated, stock speakers should be adequate, and I've found the Clevo speakers to serve their purpose for general computing and gaming even. But if I want better audio I just throw on some headphones. I'm not saying it can't / shouldn't be improved, just that Clevo's speakers weren't designed for the audiophile.
     
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    If you did read my previous posts, I can't "just throw on some headphones" with Clevo, because with EM I hear too much of electrical noise on the audio output jack, and with HM I had very very poor bass (on line output jack, with good headphones and THX software). This is NOT excusable for 1.5K+ laptop, this is sloppy quality issues, plain and simple.
    I had to throw in some headphones PLUS an external sound card.
     
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    780M is just a 680M rebrand right?
     
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    Not sure what you mean by "just a rebrand". Its to use same Kepler architecture, yes, but it still will be faster.
     
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    I consider an unchanged shader count a rebrand, even if they retool the clock speeds and software that comes with it.
     
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    Shader counts have not been confirmed yet.
     
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    Think undervolted GTX680MX + Turbo Boost 2.0 (1536 shader)
     
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    MX is a lot better if true.
     
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    I don't own a P151EM, I have the W350ETQ so I don't know what would cause the high signal to noise ratio you are experiencing. A few years ago I bought a Logitech 2.1 channel sound system that I can hook directly into the stereo jack, and it provides excellent sound reproduction. I also can hook it into my monitor and grab the digital signal produced from the HDMI cable. I prefer having the physical volume (and bass) control knob on my desk vs using the Fn keys or the volume control on the taskbar. Sometimes I hook it into my Sony 7.1 channel receiver via HDMI (or RCA to stereo Y cable) to watch movies or listen to music and the quality is excellent. Very little signal noise when I turn the volume all the way up while nothing is playing, just a faint hiss.

    If you want high quality sound reproduction you'll have to amplify it externally. As for the noise you may have some internal or external interference, or maybe your master volume is too high in the Realtek HD Audio Manager. Have you tried the digital signal from the HDMI port? You'll have to hook it up to a monitor, TV, or receiver/mixer to try it. Im sure that will be a clearer signal with superior shielding.
     
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    The electrical noise is caused by Clevo done a half-assed job, plain and simple. This kind of issue is unique to EM, it wasn't that bad in HM. HM had another problem though - it produced almost no bass on low-impedance (small) headphones.
    I didn't want "high quality" sound reproduction. I just wanted bloody GPU&CPU not to produce screeches in headphones, so I wouldn't have to take extra USB sound card with me when I am travelling. I think its reasonable to expect from high price range/gaming laptop.
     
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    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Clevo isn`t actually high price range its more of a good performance/price notebook. Look at MSI GT70 0NE. There is $600 difference between GT70 and NP9170 with equal specs. But we get other goodies, like better sound :)
     
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    I don't get you point. Are you saying its unreasonable to be upset with hearing GPU noise on audio output jack from "mere" 2000$ laptop, I must have paid at least 2500$?
    I'd get MSI, but its more heavy, with second HDD bay I don't need, also single fan cooling is noisy and causing throttling issues with powerful cards.
     
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    My 1033mhz GPU clocks that are stable in crysis 3 disagree Ingvarr ;) The MSI is maybe a touch noisier but it is more effective.
     
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