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    P370SM-A Heatsink in a P150EM

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Johnatas, Oct 15, 2015.

  1. Johnatas

    Johnatas Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi, my old P150EM was having many throttle issues and with the end of warranty period I started to improve the things that I doesn't likes on him (namely the heat).

    In my crusade, I discover that my GPU heatsink was way too warped, so I make a search on found that the heatsink from P150SM was better to make the things cool than my old P150EM heatsink, so I ordered a new heatsink for my P150EM, and said for the reseller that I need a P150SM for my NVidia 680M card.

    The "problem" is that the reseller sent for me a P370SM-A heatsink, part number is 6-31-P370N-040-A in place of the P150SM that I asked to, the new piece has the fins area smaller than my old heatsink and the P370SM-A notebook is a dual GPU, a different project from mine (mine of single-GPU only).

    Can I safely put the P370SM-A heatsink on my PC and get the temp drops too, or I need to sent it back and ask for the P150SM heatsink?

    Photo from new heatsink is attached

    Thanks!

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  2. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Yes it's likely going to still be better, look how much denser the fins are on the heatsink, even though it's not as wide you will still get more surface area, not ideal but it should not harm the machine.
     
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    If it fits in your rig, just try it out and see if temps are dropping or not. Btw your fan looks a lil' bit dusty. ;)
     
  4. Prostar Computer

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    Give it a try. As long as you monitor the temps closely, you can avoid doing any damage. Definitely clean the fan(s) while you're at it! And use a good thermal compound. :vbwink:
     
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  5. Johnatas

    Johnatas Notebook Enthusiast

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    That's a good question to make now, I live in Brazil, so I don't have access to many goodies like ICD7 or Prolimatech PK-1, can I use other compounds without losing much cooling power?
    The compounds that I have access in Brazil normally are:

    Thermaltake TG3
    Thermaltake TG8
    CoolerMaster Extreme Fusion X1
    CoolerMaster Thermal Fusion 400
    Arctic Cooling MX-4
    Arctic Cooling MX-2
    Arctic Silver Céramique 2
    Noctua NT-H1
    Arctic Silver 5
    Gelid Solutions GC-EXTREME
    Xigmatek PTI-G4512

    I really searched all the "good known" shops in Brazil, even the Brazilian reseller of Clevo has only AS5 and MX-4, do you all recommend any of the list or I really need to import (and wait 2 months) for ICD7?

    Thanks!
     
  6. Prostar Computer

    Prostar Computer Company Representative

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    This one is fantastic! Comparable to ICD7, and without the diamond particles, it won't marr the surface of your heat sinks or the IHS on the chips.
     
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  7. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    It's a solid choice :), the best of the lot.
     
  8. Johnatas

    Johnatas Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the fast replies, I got a tube, now I only need to wait for deliver.

    But, it appears that this paste doesn't get a good application with the old pea-sized in the middle of the GPU, right? It really is to be spread with the applicator? All times that I saw this before in the web, people said that this way is wrong and the good way is the pea method, so it bugs me a little, can you all help me with this?
     
  9. Bullrun

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    A big tube? :D You can try a pea, and spread, and X pattern. You could decide what's best for your machine ;) But I think the pea was fine for GPU in P150EMs.
     
  10. Johnatas

    Johnatas Notebook Enthusiast

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    Normally, pea mode is fine, but it appears that Gelid GC needs to be spread to be effective, this is what I'm finding a bit strange...
     
  11. Bullrun

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    Many use the pea method with Gelid. You can heat the tube in warm water to soften the paste.
     
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  12. Bullrun

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    Double post ~ Delete
     
  13. Meaker@Sager

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    Or use careful assisted pressure during installation.
     
  14. Johnatas

    Johnatas Notebook Enthusiast

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    Didn't understood what you mean with assisted pressure, care to explain? The the isn't a big one, so I can't test much
     
  15. Meaker@Sager

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    Pressing on the heatsink as you tighten it down. You do have to be careful.
     
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    You can hold the tube into warm water to get a better consistency while applying.
    You may try the x-method as it covers the corners of the die without spilling over the long sides of it.
     
  17. Johnatas

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    Got the tube but gets a bitter surprise when I started the process too...

    When I get the heatsink, and clicks the photos in 1st post, I didn't see that one of the fins was broken, my father saw it on the photo only, so I sent the photo to the reseller and he promptly said to me that she will sent another, I didn't made any fuss, because I would need to wait because of the paste tube, but today when the paste finally was delivered, the second heatsink was delivered too (so I'm with two P370SM-A heatsinks at my hands at the moment).
    But I think that the second one is broken too, will attach some photos of the part that I think it's broken ok, it appears that the end of the fins in the upper part is missing on the upper heatsink, right?

    Thanks!
     

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  18. t456

    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    That's cosmetic, won't affect cooling capability. Well ... maybe at the ~0.1% range.
     
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  19. Johnatas

    Johnatas Notebook Enthusiast

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    So the destroyed fins in the corner doesn't affect cooling capability? And the question is, I bought a new product, it is normal to get it a bit messed up? I never changed before my heatsinks in any notebook.
     
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  20. t456

    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    No, it's not normal, though a few warped fins don't matter in the least. You're good to rma if the looks bother you, of course.

    Known issue is that quality control for Clevo's heatsink supplier is ... a pipe-dream. However, compromised cooling would only be due to defective heatpipe (wrong liquid balance or a dented pipe) or a warped heatsink-die area. Fins are only there to increase surface area; contact solid-air (think 'lung'). A few bends or even some missing fins are irrelevant to its function.
     
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    Different revisions of heatsink I think, I'd go with the slightly warped one with extra fins.
     
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  22. Johnatas

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    It appears that the two are same rev, because one is a sticker with the code 6-31-P370N-012-A and other with 6-31-P370N-040-A, but the 040-A sticker, are glued over a 012-A stick, so they are equal, right?
    When you say warped one, you mean warped in the fins, the first that I got? I'd never understood this thing of warped heatsink to be honest, can you explain it?

    Thanks!
     
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    Rather than get confused, put the first replacement you got in the machine.
     
  24. Tarsis

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    Hi Johnatas!
    Can I ask you where did you buy the P370sm heatsink? I live in Brazil too and cannot find any reseller that could help me with this...
    Thanks a lot! Obrigado!
     
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    If you can't find a reseller to help you, maybe you can locate a private seller(?). Good luck to you, in any case!
     
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    Thanks for the feedback!
    That's exactly what I'm doing.
    I was able to buy an used video card but unfortunately I can't find the right heatsink anywhere...
     
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    I'm a little surprised; I expected there to be one or two major Clevo resellers that might have it and be able to ship it, even internationally. Hopefully you can find one through a private party soon!
     
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    Found exactly what I need on RJtech.com
    These guys are awesome! They have everything!
     
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    Good! RJTech is reputable. :vbthumbsup:
     
  30. Ethrem

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    Understatement of the year thus far.......
     
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    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    lol
     
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    It's funny but it's also sad because they're so expensive and I need to replace all three of mine but I'm not spending 300 bucks more so I just don't use my system to capacity. Which means I wasted 4700 dollars when I bought this system maxed out...