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    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Snodge, Dec 5, 2015.

  1. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Every chip is different, I assume you only have the one card so can't swap them over?

    Try it out under a lengthy gaming session.
     
  2. Snodge

    Snodge Notebook Consultant

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    Unfortunately you're right Meaker only the one card, I just wouldn't have thought a 980m would vary 20 degrees even my Alienware 17 r2 soldered overclockers only ever reached 72.

    In thinking about getting a new heatsink or moving the card to the other slot due to there being a longer heat pipe on the other heatsink?

    Could it be due to the contact between the two copper parts one part is just 4 screws to take off the core and the copper presses against the other bit of copper I was wondering if they weren't making good contact.

    Pasting wise I put a good sized pea and tighten the screws quite firmly would it be benefitical if I removed the heatsink and took a picture of the paste ?
     
  3. Snodge

    Snodge Notebook Consultant

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    Right so when I took off the heatsink off the GPU there was paste still remaining and I couldn't get rid of it.

    So I took some thinners and wire wool to try and remove the paste however it didn't work it just seemed to scratch the heatsink :p

    Do you think that I've striped the copper too much ? hence the high temperatures? Hoping I can get a new heatsink.
     
  4. Snodge

    Snodge Notebook Consultant

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    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    removal of thermal paste is made way easier and more thorough using isopropanol :) lucky me i can just grab some 100% at my lab at work whenever i need it :D

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
  6. Snodge

    Snodge Notebook Consultant

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    It's like stained on the heatsink would have to take a layer of metal of to get at it?
     
  7. Snodge

    Snodge Notebook Consultant

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    Anyone with this system can you let me know what your GPU maxes out at please ?

    Someone with a 980m would be great. running heaven 4.0 GPU reached 89 degrees and I stopped it as I don't want it running that hot?

    What's wrong guys I've repasted it multiple times it can't be bad paste/application or contact. Is this chassis just not capable of cooling a 980m?
     
  8. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Snodge, approach this in 2 ways..

    Firstly, remove all the old paste.. Get some rubbing alcohol or alchol wipes and remove the old paste...

    Now Second step.. Get some good thermal pads if you can, Fujipoly or Phobya XT pads and then Put a pea sized blob on the centre of the heatsink..

    If your temps are still high after this request @Prema to Make a lower voltage vBIOS for 980Ms or ask @Ethrem for it...and make Eurocom send you a new GPU heatsink... Personally think you have a **** heatsink so I would demand that now..

    It can be frustrating but the thing with these laptops is you have to tweak them to work perfectly...

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  9. Snodge

    Snodge Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah definitely mate,

    I've removed all of the old paste etc repasted multiple times to no avail unfortunately.

    The vBIOS now the voltage is 1.062 so nothing too high there I'm just annoyed someone has sold it to me like this.

    The Laptop was purchased from PCSPECIALIST so they should be able to sort me out a brand new heatsink etc but I fear it's not going to make a difference.
     
  10. Snodge

    Snodge Notebook Consultant

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    Please tell me how you managed to get your GPU temperatures soooo low please? :D
     
  11. Snodge

    Snodge Notebook Consultant

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    Think it's time to ask the seller for a refund,

    This is far too much work :(
     
  12. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Honestly, sell all your gaming laptops.. if you don't put the effort in, they won't work well... Be patient, that's the most important thing with them!
     
  13. Snodge

    Snodge Notebook Consultant

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    I'm willing to put the effort in however I'm not whether it's a heatsink fault/my fault or this is just how it's supposed to be as I've had so many different opinions.

    Think I can try get a new heatsink, or try to Lap this one really well for some seriously good contact with IC7?

    What'd you think?
     
  14. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    sourcing a new heatsink shouldnt be all that expensive. plus, its less of an effort ull have to invest to check if your current heatsink is faulty or not...
     
  15. Snodge

    Snodge Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah hopefully not. hoping pcspecialist will replace it for me :D
     
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    Brent R. Notebook Evangelist

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    I haven't done anything special I usually use full fans when gaming or benchmarking because I use overear headphones so I can't hear the fans anyways, I hope you got in contact with PCSpecialist the moment you started having problems with temps because they are the ones that should be helping you out the most, I am thinking since you have tried repasting and that didn't help that it has to be there is something wrong with your headsink, to be honest you shouldn't have had to repaste if it is a new laptop you just got from them, thats pretty ridiculous, just don't give up and if they don't fix the problem for you after all you have done then yes I would request a refund/replacement because you can't keep a laptop which its gpu is getting that hot...good luck keep me updated!
     
  17. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    I'm afraid I only have a spare 2nd GPU heatsink so that wont be much use to you (if anyone does need one btw let me know).
     
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  18. Snodge

    Snodge Notebook Consultant

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    Evening guys there's definitely some progress here :)

    New heatsink ordered and delivered for £27 cannot complain about that.

    Ran Heaven for 1 loop and it maxed out at 80 degrees which is far better than when it was reaching 88-92

    So happy chappy currently now I suppose my question is the paste they supply on the Heatsink is it any good? Should I remove it and go with my IC7 Diamond? I worried that I won't be able to get all of their paste on and might just cause myself more issues?

    Will IC Diamond reduce my temperatures any furthers if they can even shave 5 degrees that would be fantastic.
     
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    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    a ha! so it WAS the heatsink after all! good that you checked that out, we wouldve contemplated this for a long long time to come :p

    and yeah, i can recommend ICD, GC Extreme or Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut (in ascending order of cooling performance) as non-metal pastes :) best way to remove any old paste residues is to wipe the heatsink / chip off with a paper tissue soaked in isopropanol, thatll get everything nice n shiny again :)
     
  20. Meaker@Sager

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    The stuff they include is ok, IC diamond and the like is just that bit better,
     
  21. Snodge

    Snodge Notebook Consultant

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    How much better realistically?

    Like I'm on my second loop of heaven and it's reached 79 degrees seems to keep rising.

    It's not like a desktop gpu it doesn't hit a temperature and stop just seems to keep slowing rising.

    Whether that's due to the paste I don't know.
     
  22. Snodge

    Snodge Notebook Consultant

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    Realistically I probably won't play games for longer than 2-3 hours it but can see the temperatures are continuing to rise to 82 after another loop and a half.
     
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    Snodge Notebook Consultant

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    Ok I knew I shouldn't have repasted it with IC Diamond!!!!!

    Temperatures are higher again!!!!!

    Temperature reached 92 Degrees before Loop finished ffs!!!!!

    Why didn't I just leave it IC diamond clearly isn't that good.

    How am I repasting it that badly? Good sized pea in the middle maybe I'm just not using nearly enough.
     
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  24. Snodge

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    The paste that was already on the GPU there was quite a large amount on it maybe I'm simply not putting enough on?
     
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    IC Diamond is one of the best compounds you can use. Chances are that the issue is either bad contact or a bad paste job. There is such a thing as putting too much or too little compound on, too.
     
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    u can check ur paste job when taking off the heatsink. if the area of the gpu was completely covered it should be fine. also make sure to tighten up the screws properly, but dont strip them off with too much force :)

    also: properly remove every tidbit of old paste!!!!! best to use isopropanol to get rid of everything.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    Warm a bit your ic tube on warm water, then apply in the core and with a tool like a credit card, paste it in the whole core. Dont be suprised to remove a lot. Contact between core and heatsink should be minimal ( core still not visible)
    Take a picture and show us the result.
    Dont forget to clean before gpu core and heatsink.
    When you play, the back of the laptop should be raised with at least 2cm ( put 2 usb or whatever) and you will notice a difference in temp too.
     
  28. Snodge

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    I've done a complete new paste job and decided to run Heaven Benchmark 4.0 for about 5-6 loops. With my coolermaster upad GPU didn't go above 68.

    With the pad unplugged GPU hovered at 72-74.

    So very happy now :D
     
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    That's better :)
     
  30. jaybee83

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    glad u finally got it right :)

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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