P670R vs P775

So here is the story: Im a semi hardcore gamer that likes to play games on my rig (a desktop). Its big, bulky and something im not able to bring with me while i travel. So im replacing my desktop with either of these models:

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http://www.multicom.no/business/multicom-kunshan-p670r-173-full-hd/cat-p/c1000042/p10634584

or this:

http://www.multicom.no/business/systemconfigurator.aspx?q=st:10634601;c:1000042;fl:0
(Configuration: gtx 1070, i7 6700, 16gb ram)

The P775 comes with a 120hz screen, but i hear those are still a month out.


What matters to me is gaming performance, and heat. (Hence the i7 6700 instead of the K version, the 1070 instead of the 1080) i dont care about size or weight of the notebook. I want stabillity and performance.

I could get my hands on the P670R within a few days, for the P775 id have to wait a month. (and that sucks)

With these things taken in to consideration, from a gamers perspective, which one would you chose? And why? Should i wait 1 month for the P775 or should i just go for the P670R with the 60Hz screen. (My current screen is a 60Hz).

 

If you are not going to go with a desktop processor then what exactly is the benefit of the P775 over the P670?

 

the i7 6700 IS a desktop processor and performs better then a i7 6820hk.

Quit asking me, im asking YOU.

 

My bad, got it confused with the 6700hq.

So, the P670 with GTX 1070 can play pretty much any game out there at 1080p with all settings maxed, and will probably be able to do it for some years. I decided that's plenty for me. But if you want 4K or VR gaming then it will struggle. Granted, I am not sure if the P775 will do that much better - for smooth 4K and VR gaming you need at least a GTX 1080 if not 1080 SLI.

On the plus side the P775 is bigger and thus has better cooling. But folks seem to report that the P670 doesn't run hotter than 80 degrees or so when gaming, so totally acceptable for a notebook.

The 120 hz screen will be nicer, that is for sure. The P670 is only 75hz. Can you tell the difference between 120 fps and 75 fps and does it matter to you? I think you got to decide that one for yourself. A lot of folks seem to use these laptops connected to an external monitor, in which case it really won't matter.

I guess to me the P775 seems like an odd middle ground between the P670 that is still a laptop, if a powerful one, and the P870, which is a real monster desktop replacement. With the P870 you can have the GTX 1080 or even 1080 SLI - a huge jump up in terms of raw performance. But of course it costs an arm and a leg.

 

Now thats a good reply! Howbout the fast paced games, can a P670R Monitor keep up without ghosting or lagging? Seem like they have slightly worse responce times then other manufacturars in its class like msi, asus etc.

 

You may have to wait for someone more knowledgable than I. Notebookcheck has reviews of both machines, including some numbers on response times. It is worth noting that g-sync and v-sync are acting funny on all GTX 10-series cards right now from what I understand. So that leads to either some input lag or tearing. Folks in the P650 thread have been discussing it for a while, but no obvious solution from what I can see.

Here are the notebookcheck reviews:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Nexoc-G734III-Clevo-P670RS-G-Notebook-Review.174030.0.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-U727-Clevo-P870DM3-G-Notebook-Review.173957.0.html

 

Yeah i can see in the review that the display is probably gonna be too slow for gamers, but i allso see that alot of people clock the display up to 75Hz. But does it go any higher then 75Hz? And would that improve response times as in grey to grey etc ?

 

I played the latest Doom a couple of times on a recent P670RS-GS, and it looked fantastic. This might be something that is just as subjective to how visually astute you are as it is up to the technology.

 

If you aren't getting a 1080 the cpu doesn't matter too much for pure gaming performance. The main benefit of the P775 is it can have the 1440p 120Hz screen. That's an amazing option that is like the sweet spot for the 1070 and 1080.

The 75Hz display normally overclocks to around 100Hz.

 

yeah the screen on the P670R i could get is a 60Hz screen. Those only overclock to 75Hz, right? That better then what im used to anyways. But now comes the question:

How will a P670R Handle both a gtx 1070 AND a i7 6820HK? Does this system have good enough cooling? Is undervolt recomended for the cpu?

 

Quite a few folks have the P670 with the 6820 and the 1070 and no issues with cooling. I mean, it's not like desktop cooling, but you should not see temperatures above the 80s. Undervolting would help, but I do not know how much the 6820 can be undervolted while still overclocking it. If you are not going to overclock its almost identical to the 6700 so you could save a couple hundred dollars and go with that.

 

Should have good enough cooling, I have a P650RS with a 6820hk and a 1070. And no, in the U.S. at least those screens usually come at 75Hz, and can OC even higher.

 

If they dont have too many heat issues i might just go with the P670R then.

 

Yeah the 1 im getting is 60Hz. Thats atleast what the reseller has said.

 

Check that again. The P650 comes with a 60hz panel, but the P670 comes with a 75hz panel, at least from what I understand in the US. But it may depend somewhat on the reseller.

The P670 has a few issues with it, but they are no worse than the P775 or any other new 10-series laptops. Something is still funny with g-sync, flexicharge doesn't seem to be working, and some people have reported bad light bleed, but this last one is really luck of the draw - some panels seem fine while others seem borderline.

 

Multicom is a Norwegian/European reseller tho. They might have different deals with Clevo, i dunno. If it comes with 75Hz panel it will be a huge bonus atleast!

Im going for the P670R i think, can be bothered to wait another month for a P775 that is quite similar anyways.

Thanks for your input guys!

 

Go for P775. And ask Multicom if they can change the 230w psu to 330w. You are fully locked if you go with BGA!!
Ps. I'm also from Norway and use Multicom

 

Hello bro ,im also live in Norway(but im from UA) , im looking to buy a laptop from multicom and im looking for 75hz panel . Do you know any models with that specs ?

 

Hello.
Multicom has less range than before. You can ask them to fix something for you(75-120Hz), but I do not think they have what you want. This is the only option in whole Norway. Everything else from any shop in Norway is pure garbage. Fist choice Multicom Kunshan P870 (konfigurator) Aka only option for me.
Second Multicom Kunshan P775 (konfigurator) AKA GTX 1070 + QHD (2560x1440) IPS matt skjerm G-Sync 120HzH --- GeForce GTX 1080 + QHD (2560x1440) IPS matt skjerm G-Sync 120Hz Forget the rest (JOKEBOOKS)!!

 

They really do not have any 75 hz options, have decide to buy this one
https://www.multicom.no/multicom-kunshan-n870-173-full-hd/cat-p/c/p10636616

 

Generally, under stress, 80 - 89 Celsius is terribly common on that CPU. The GPU might run a bit cooler. There isn't exactly an issue with the cooling if the computer peaks somewhere in the 80s.