P750dm2-g/p775dm3-g upgrade with a Coffee Lake cpu?

BIOS mod and PIN mod in that case MIGHT work.

How do you feel about wire wrapping LGA socket pins so you don't destroy them or short them?

 

of course mid with pins. Probably than we have p75 p775 km series

Gesendet von meinem SM-G935F mit Tapatalk

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/234097/...ore-mainstream-desktop-processor-by-september

Intel Rushes in a Six-core Mainstream Desktop Processor by September

With AMD Ryzen 5 six-core and Ryzen 7 eight-core chips having blunt the edge of the $329 Core i7-7700K, the upper-end of Intel's mainstream desktop processor line-up has lost competitiveness to Intel's bean-counters. The company is readying a new mainstream-desktop platform, which in all likelihood, heralds a new socket, and the new Z370 Express chipset.

Intel plans to launch this platform by August-September (before Q4 sets in), and it has one big difference - a new six-core part, based on the 8th generation Core "Coffee Lake" silicon. Built on a refined 14 nm process, the 6-core "Coffee Lake" chip could feature its TDP rating around the 95W mark for the "K" (multiplier unlocked) part. Quad-core parts could also be carved out of this silicon, with their TDP rated at 65W for the non-K (multiplier-locked) parts. AMD Ryzen 7 1700 eight-core chip with unlocked multipler is rated at 65W. Intel will follow up on its first-wave of "Coffee Lake" chips with additional quad-core and dual-core parts in Q1-2018, besides other 300-series chipsets (likely the H370 and B350).

 

Wish they'd make up their mind.

 

The linus rant on the behaviour is worth a watch

 

History with Intel very strongly suggests not to expect your new CPU to work in an old socket...

 

That rant was pretty intense. He gets butt blasted quite a bit but that was one for the ages also those mobos made me laugh so much.

 

Are six cores better than four for gaming?
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Are-six-cores-better-than-four-for-gaming.234162.0.html

 

Not really for the moment, it will be nice for content creators and the like who want to be on the move though. Hopefully games continue to be better threaded to.

 

Looks like we might be getting a variant of Coffee Lake sooner rather than later if this leak is to be believed. http://laptopmedia.com/news/intel-core-i5-8250u-is-coming-acer-swift-3-to-get-it-early/

 

Intel Six Core Lineup exposed - Core i7-8700K and Core i5-8600K

 

Nice. Here's to hoping that the resellers can talk more about it since some have confirmed they've been testing them under NDA.

 

Don't expect they will talk about new not released tech. They don't want that people start sitting on the fence waiting for new hardware. This will only give them less sales.

 

Coffee lake ULV CPUs were planned for Q3-Q4 2017 so that's normal. Desktop variants - Q1 2018. In any case, the clockspeeds seem quite a bit lower. I guess we won't be getting 5GHz on those hex-cores.

EDIT: We're seeing 500MHz lower base frequency (likely same will apply to Turbo Boost) - yeah, that's probably due to heat and the godawful TIM that Intel insist on using.

 

Intel to Launch Multiple Six-core CPUs on Coffee Lake Architecture, i5 Lineup
Intel i7 6 core BGA for high end Mobile on it's way... "The report also goes on to say that Intel is looking to introduce 6-core processors to its mobile lineup as well, although with much lower clock speeds (reportedly around the 2 GHz mark) to allow for the lower TDP platform requirements (at 45 W.) There's also mention of a 28 W quad-core mobile (U) processor."

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For the desktops... "A report from Canard PC claims that Intel will thoroughly revise its CPU lineup for the Coffee Lake architecture, with an i7-8700K six-core, 12-thread processor being the top offering. This 8700K is reported to deliver its 12 threads at a 3.7 GHz base clock, and a 95 W TDP. These are comparable to AMD's Ryzen 5 1600X processor, which ships with the same six cores and 12 threads under the same TDP, though it has 100 MHz less in base clock speed."

If The New Intel i7 6 cores LGA shall be used for the new Clevo replacements for P7XX and P87XX series LGA laptops... They can't compete in processing powa vs, Ryzen R7 1700 in the new ASUSBOOK's. What a joke @Mr. Fox A big Joke!!! Game over for laptops!!

As expected.. The Intels advertised 30% boost vs. 7700K will put 8700K a bit over Ryzen 5 1600X. A Jokebook with locked down Ryzen 7 1700 will beat the best from Intel mainstream line.

 

2GHz laptops here we come

Also, really, they think the 8-core 1700 with a 30% lower TDP at similar clocks will be outperformed what is essentially the 7800X? I mean, sorry Intel but unlikely. Coffee Lake is the same architecture but with more glue - IPC will probably be lower than Kaby Lake since clockspeeds are drastically reduced.

 

Core Count is important but it's not Intel's strong point and never will. They should have focused on improving IPC performance instead . Say 30~50% then everyone will be happy
More Core/Thread = More heat. FX 8350 , A10 6790k can oc up to 5GHz while the new Ryzen is stuck at 4GHz
Bulldozer is bad and Coffee Lake is another Bulldozer :/

 

The problem is Intel's utter lack of innovation or change. Kaby Lake is remarkably similar to Sandy Bridge - sure, it's been refined and tweaked but the base design is fundamentally the same. A 30% IPC improvement is nigh impossible on Intel's current platform and they know it - they're already hitting a brick wall and their 8-core CPUs are drawing 400W of power when compared to about 100W on Ryzen. And for what? 500MHz more? I personally don't think a ~15% performance improvement is worth a 300% increase in heat and power draw.

 

I know. Kaby Lake is Skylake Refresh ... Just like Devil's Canyon but this time it came with a ****ty TIM lol . Kaby Lake is a result of no competition , that's why it was outperformed by a mere 65W R7 1700

 

If you've seen the new HU video, he simulated R3 performance with a 1400 and the results are indeed worth noting. If you OC the R3 1200 to about 3.8-4GHz, it basically becomes an i5 7400 for half the price. Considering that the stock coolers on Ryzen so far have allowed for OCing of even the 1700, I'd say it's not impossible to get 3.7-3.8 on the Wraith Stealth. So yeah, Kaby Lake's vast majority of options are beaten. Hopefully they at least solder Coffee Lake so that it doesn't double as a frying pan.

 

As it is now... Coffee lake as well. Will only be on par or slightly better than Ryzen R5 1600X
Intel's best mainstream will be outperformed by Ryzen. What a Joke!!

 

To be honest, Jim Keller's work on Ryzen and the design behind Infinity Fabric really puts Intel to shame. I mean, Intel's yields are what? 30% lower? That's probably why Ryzen is able to offer such phenomenal (Phenom II, get it? ) value.

 

LGA1151 V2

 

Someone know if coffee lake will
Be compatible with z170 Mobo?

 

No, I believe it was already announced but Intel, for some unexplained reason, are using Z370/H370 chipsets for their 1151 refresh. Older Z170/Z270 boards are not compatible.

 

Intel has been producing a new chipset for the last 2 decades. It was the super hopeful thinking something different would happen.

 

Core i7-7800X vs. 7700K, 6 or 4-Cores for Gaming?

 

I don't understand their choice.. they can do a bios update like kaby lake. For what i heard there are no hardware difference..

 

Don't understand their choice?


Yeah, Same amuont pins but it easy to change the pin out And then call it 1151 v2

 

When dealing with higher core counts there could be a genuine reason for pin layout changes to be fair.

 

i love that picture and the reference to the topic.

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Coffee-Lake-hexa-core-desktop-chip-specs-leaked.237024.0.html
Coffee Lake hexa-core desktop chip specs leaked

 

And the 6 core BGA chips will have Base Clock Frequency at 2.0GHz. This means your Turd chips doesn't throttling if you can manage running it above 2GHz

 

Even with more cores you should still be able to reach decent quad core speeds if you are not using the other two. If you are then overall you are being more efficient.

It should at worst be no change.

 

We don't know about the Turbo clocks for BGA.
If everything is right what it says about hexa-core desktop chip, The TDP will increase from 91 up to 95W(most likely due increased cores shall hold higher clocks). While the mobile 6 core most likely will stand still at 45W. I can't see Intel will go back to 47W chips. Mind yoo, Most of the jokebooks are thinner today vs. what they was before. This means BGA will go the opposite way vs. desktop chips. Not the huge difference but still. Watt is watt.

 

The extra cores should only impact frequency when they are in use and if they are it's likely out pacing the quad core at that point.

 

Apparently , new ultra low voltage i5s (U series) are all Quad Core with HT enabled
i5 8250U , for example , has 1.8GHz base clock , 3.4GHz Turbo Clock (1 core turbo mode) , 4 cores 8 threads

https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/core_i5/i5-8250u
http://laptopmedia.com/news/intel-core-i5-8250u-is-coming-acer-swift-3-to-get-it-early/

This may not be for everyone but at least ultrabook will no longer have CPU bottleneck like before (Last gen i7 7650U is a dual core with HT)

Maybe it's time to pick up an ultrabook for gaming and video editing ???

 

15W would still limit sustained performance.

You can't escape power totally.

 

Don't defend Trash. You can't run prolonged Turbo boost on all cores before boost drop to 2.0 GHZ.

 

If you are loading the cores that much then it will be out performing a quad at 2.8ghz.

Is having a TDP limit going to limit max performance? Yes. But that's no reason to turn your nose up to extra cores.

 

And quad around 2.8 Ghz is the goal? Everything from this anousement is SCAM!!

 

You were the one talking about loading a quad to the point of maximum throttle (which will take something like prime FFT).

For a 45W based chassis yes that is the goal. If you want more get a larger chassis designed to pump in more power like the desktop based series we do for those that need that.

Hex cores in the higher end platform would do even better and be very tasty

 

Prime 95 or not. 45w and you are locked out from

 

You are going to still get decent gaming performance do most things with 45W.

I drove a Titan-x and got most of the performance out of it with 140 fps in games.

 

Yeah, you can get decent Gaming performance from +5 years old chip as showed in previous post.

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Specs-leaked-for-upcoming-i7-8700K.237164.0.html
Specs leaked for upcoming i7-8700K

 

Maybe ... maybe not
i5 8250U slightly outperforms i7 7700HQ in multithread benchmark . So it can't be that bad .

Some i7 7700HQ perform better but still ...That i5 is a real deal
Source : https://ocaholic.ch/modules/news/article.php?storyid=16794

 

I did say sustained. For short burst type workloads the extra cores are great.

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-coffee-lake-cpu-motherboard-asrock,35147.html

Welp looks like this has been officially answered. No Coffee Lake for you!