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    P870DM restart

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by ElCaptainX, Dec 26, 2015.

  1. ElCaptainX

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    Guys my P870DM restart after i set cpu clock in XTU with 4.0GHz (i5 6600K) the temp around 73C and while iam playing TERA game my lap break system and restart to windows i dont know what happening :(
     
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    I would assume not enough voltage for the overclock.
     
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    Did you stress test the system at 4.0ghz?
     
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    Try lowering the clock or raising the voltage a step or two.
     
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  5. ElCaptainX

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    how much i need to raising the voltage?
     
  6. Chrack

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    First show us your XTU Settings with all stock and one with your OC Settings.
    We don´t know what Voltage you use ;)

    You can raise or lower in 10mv steps and trie again
     
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  7. ElCaptainX

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    Here is my XTU
     

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    Have you set the Core and Cache offset to 0,976V (970mv)???

    Thats to much.
    You now have Set 1V more to Chache and Core. For the cache is not so good!!! And thats why your become BSOD.
    Set Cache Offset to default 0V !!!!
    Set Core Offset to 0,200v (200mv). I Think that more as enough for your 4,0ghz.
    You can try 0,100v (100mv) is that stable too you can lower the core voltage again like 0,090V.
    Is this also stable another 10mv (0,010v) lower and agin if its have stock 0,000V Offset.
    If its not stable go 0,010V (10mv) higher as your last stable voltage.

    If you more OC like 4,1ghz you must raise the Core Offset from your stable 4,0ghz voltage.
    Try with 10mv and again to make 4,1ghz stable.
     
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    No dude it is 0,976 mV, how i can set cache offset to default?Can you teach me more about overclock with XTU? Iam a newbie :(
     
  10. Chrack

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    look in the picture.
    XTU overclock.JPG

    But you have set the voltage higher for your 4,0ghz overclocking. So you know what slider for voltage have you used ;)
     
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    Ok let me try :D
     
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    I have a problem when i set the core voltage offset is i can set it manually to 0,100mV it only allow raise to 0,976 mV :(
     
  13. Chrack

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    Puuh, normaly it´s better you don´t change anything in XTU if you don´t know what you do!!!
    You can brick your Laptop!!!!

    But ok try this:
    xtu1.PNG

    1. klick on Profiles
    2. klick on default
    3. klick on Show Values
    4. klick on Apply

    Now you have all stock even cache/core Offset Voltage (0,000v) and Multpliers.

    Now only go to Advanced Tuning and set your Multipliers all to 40x.
    Dont change any Voltage!!!
    klick on Save near Apply Button and make a profile name like 4,0ghz.

    Now you can test if it´s stable.
    If yes than all ok.
    If no than you musst raise the Core Voltage Offset to 10mv.
    xtu2.PNG

    1. go to Core Voltage Offset and klick on the 0,00v. It´s open a window
    2. klick on 10mv
    3. klick apply
    Now you have 10mv more on the Vcore.
    Is it stable ok leave it
    Is not raise again core offset +10mv
     
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    wow very detail i will try it now :D but i wonder how is stable?
     
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    klick on xtu the stresstest for CPU make 10min. look at your CPU Temp
    if it´s ok try your game or other things.
     
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    Adding 0.1V is a big swing, so be careful.
     
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  17. Chrack

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    0,1V ?
    he had set 1V to cache and vcore over the Offset :eek:
     
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    Guys i dont have 0.1mV core option :( and when i change the core offset the cache rasing to :(
     
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    Be aware of your units.

    CPU voltages are in the 1-1.2V (that's volts) region.

    Adding 100mV (millivolts) is adding 0.1V (Roughly 10%), power using is exponential with voltage so that will run a lot hotter.
     
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    But the important thing is it not allow me raise only core offset to 0,1V, it only allow me raise to 1V and when i try raise the core offset the cache offset raising too that is why iam confusing now
     
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    Thats strange.
    So you better set all stock and try with your 40x Mulipliers only.
    No Vcore and cache all stock!

    1. klick on Profiles
    2. klick on default
    3. klick on Show Values
    4. klick on Apply

    Now you have all stock even cache/core Offset Voltage (0,000v) and Multpliers.

    Now only go to Advanced Tuning and set your Multipliers all to 40x.
    Dont change any Voltage!!!
    klick on Save near Apply Button and make a profile name like 4,0ghz.

    Now you can test if it´s stable.

    At the moment i doesn´t know why both vcore and cache both together raising.
    And why you have 1V steps.
    Can you make a screenshot when you klick on the Core Voltage, that we can see the new window if all vcore steps!
     
  22. ElCaptainX

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    Here can you see it?
     

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    Can you take a screenshot of where you are setting and then checking the values? Show it maxed out if possible.
     
  24. ElCaptainX

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    Here
     

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    That menu is adjusting step size, you actually adjust the value on the main page.
     
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    The main page o_O???
     
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    Yes the screenshot in the quoted post shows the main page, that list should scroll down well below 100mv.

     
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    i cant can you teamviewer for help please :(
     
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    Thats 10mv
    XTU overclock.JPG

    My fault, but your XTU shows the Voltage stranges with 0,97645477 normal shows 1mv without the .9765434
    So i thought it´s shows 1V (to much beer last evening :rolleyes: )
    But i can´t say why cache is raising togehter.

    So set the core voltage to 9,765.....mv (10mv)
    it´s not stable try 19,765.....mv (20mv)
    not stable again 10mv more also 29,976....mv (30mv)
     
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    okay i got it let me try
     
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    i just overclock without change the vcore offset and my lap restart again guys :(
     
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    Than you must give More Vcore offset.
    Try 19,976.....mv (20mv)
    Check if stable.
    No give 10mv more.
     
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  33. ElCaptainX

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    Can you check it?
     

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    Its OK.
    If its not stable than more vcore 10mv steps.
     
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    oh okay thanks dude you help me alot :D
     
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    Guys my fan of cpu have a very sound discomfort i dont know what happening in the fan but very noise when fan speed raising like RITTTTTT all time :(
     
  37. Chrack

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    Open the buttomcover and oben the fan case with a small screwdriver.
    Perhaps there is something inside.
     
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    Guys today i have a new problem with my laptop is sometime when i leave laptop running overday for downloading it auto restart :(, no overclocked
     
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    Win10?
    What energy options do you use?
    You can try disable sleep / standby / hibernate / fastboot!
     
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    Yeah iam using win 10, and my energy option is perfromane
    Where i can disable it?
     
  41. Chrack

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    Sorry but google for it.
    I am busy at the moment ;)
     
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    Have you looked at your logs to see what caused the restart? Did it blue screen or restart normally?
     
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    If you haven't resolved this yet, check this folder: C: -> Windows -> Minidump

    Are there files in there? (If yes, then your computer is experiencing the "BSOD.")
     
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    I have 2 file DMP in the Minidump folder but when iam trying open it, it said access is denied so what i need to do now :(
     
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    Are you logged in as an Administrator? And if so, can you right click on the folder, select Properties, go to Security, and then change the permissions (if need be)?