P870DM-G: trying to go from 980m to 1070mxm

Hi folks, first time here. Also my first time changing out a video card. As the title implies, I'm trying to upgrade my 980m to a 1070mxm. The GeForce drivers said both were covered under the driver package so I just assumed I could swap the cards and be done with it. Well the laptop booted but after about two minutes, the screen went grey and said "locking" then shut down. After that it did the same at the login screen. Then it just wouldn't boot. It works fine after putting the old 980m back in. So clearly I'm missing some crucial step here. With the 980m in, my BIOS doesn't really have any GPU options in it aside from performance scaling. What do I need to do to make this 1070mxm work?

 

Wich kind of gtx 1070 you have?
Msi, Dell, Zotac, Gecube...? post a pic with the gpu

 

have to mod the inf file for driver to install

 

I think he has bigger problems than that.....,,Well the laptop booted but after about two minutes, the screen went grey and said "locking" then shut down”

 

I find its best not to make assumptions until we get more details, considering OP thought it was plug'n'play I gather that no driver mod has been applied

 

Sorry for the late reply. Here's the new graphics card:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LNju3fRa9qKzIIehZdskw2QpFOnaJq4-/view?usp=sharing

Don't know why I can't just upload the picture...

 

Those are the repurposed P5000 PCB with GTX 1070 dies.

Im only aware of the MSi 1070 and Clevo 1070's to be working in Clevo systems but Im not all knowing so its possible there is precedent elsewhere on the net.

 

So should I try and get my money back?

 

If you cant find precedent of that specific card working in your system then yes I would return it and get the proper card

 

I mean, you made it sound like I got a counterfeit card...

 

They're not really counterfeit, but just lower quality than all of the other cards as they are basically a Frankenstein of a 1070 die and P5000 PCB as Reciever said. The power delivery is quite lackluster as the entire card with the 1070 die uses up to 120ish watts whereas the entire card with the P5000 die uses up to 100ish watts.

Just test it more and be sure to mod the drivers right, and if it doesn't work, give the seller hell and get your money back.

 

I'm not sure how I gave that impression, not all cards work in a given machine. Clevo's have less restrictions in place but if it can't read the temp sensor it will shut off. Doesn't mean the card is faulty or counterfeit, it just means you are either the first to test that specific model product or you didn't do the research beforehand.

No harm no foul

 

You can have a top grade card not work and it's just not necessarily related

 

I'm still a bit new to the whole GPU game. I didn't think there would be brand-specific versions of the GPU model I was looking for, let alone knock-offs.

I guess I'll see if I can get it returned, then... In the meantime, anyone know if I can put anything better than a [real] 1070mxm in this without cutting/soldering anything? Furthermore, anyone know a reliable place where I can get a 1070mxm or better?

 

If you do not want any mods done, then I recommend a MSI 1070 MXM.
If you want/know/are able/ have knowledge/have resources etc. to do mods you can go even to a Clevo 3080 MXM

The only place that I have seen that still have the MSI 1070 is aliexpress.

 

Knock off's dont exist, its either the MXM card supports what the system needs to function or it doesnt.

Only one I am personally aware of is the MSi 1070, not sure what mods are needed for functionality since I personally went a different route.

 

I called Eurocom and they're going to see if they can get me the part/kit/BIOS mod (if needed). Assuming I can a refund from the guy on eBay, I'm not out too much more money. This (upgrading every part I can in my current laptop to get another 2-4 years out of it) is still cheaper than getting the X170KM-G with maxed out CPU/GPU and mid-range everything else.

 

Careful wirh Eurocom and they'r gar.... arr Gecube Gpu's

 

Well between that less-than-stellar review and the fact that the only things I'm seeing on AliExpress look about as reliable as the thing I got off of eBay, what other options do I have left?

 

There's a seller on here who still has an MSI 1070, I'll edit this post with a link in a bit.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-1080-gtx-and-1070-gtx-mxm-msi-gpus.835931/

MSI 1070 for $320 USD.

 

Seconding that the problem is the non-detect temp sensor - I had the same problem with a Zotac 1060 card.
I would also recommend (as others) to get a more name-brand 1070 card, if you are looking to use and continue use of that laptop.

 

I think at this point I might just bite the bullet, dust off the credit card ,and get the X170KM-G with the best CPU/GPU available and as little as possible in terms of RAM and drives (I'll just move the upgraded ones I put into my P870 into the new one and put the P870's original parts back in). The old laptop will live on as a media controller/general office machine.

 

If you got the scratch then its not really an issue. Just know that your current platform can use up to 9900k and RTX 2080 (if it can be found, and with a reasonable price) with a simple bios mod

Plenty of precedent here in the forums for all the great potential that your P870DM-G has yet to tap into, its what enabled my own P750FM to have the 9700F and GTX 1080.

 

Really? The threads I saw with anything beyond a 7700K and 1070 seemed to involve a lot of cutting and soldering… Either way, my expertise is slanted way more towards the network and software side so any hardware stuff beyond drive/RAM/plug ‘n play items starts to go outside my comfort zone. But hey, with the new laptop as a my primary, I can use my old one to play around.

 

Very valid point, messing with your only and primary system can be stress inducing like no other at times.

8700k does well and 9900k does ok as well but will need liquid metal and also probably be aided by installing the second fan for the CPU. 1080 does require some work I think, but you can just TDP mod the 1070 and bridge some of that gap pretty well. Can probably look for a 2070 instead though not sure what kind of expense you would be looking at for that particular card.

I just know that the P870DM-G is a well built chassis, probably top 5 system in existence in terms of longevity and way better than my own P750FM(DM-G), though obviously upgrades on the GPU side can be sketchy given the shortage the world is experiencing these days.

 

Well, it’s not my only one, but my other current options are my dedicated work laptop (privately owned, but still strictly for work and not the kind of laptop model you can do this kind of Frankenstein stuff with), my old MacBook Pro (not a lot of options with that), or my wife’s $400 “I need this for work and school stuff” off-the-shelf Dell (which… no. For obvious reasons).

But I digress. I checked to see if I could still call in a favor from AVA Direct for a discount and got it without too much arm twisting. Still waiting to hear back from the bloke with the 1070mxm. I’m not thrilled about using the credit cards but I guess having a balance again is better than having them closed from not using them.

 

True enough, something I've been considering again in recent times.

You may even have people willing to do the upgrade for you as well.
Digging in a laptop is more difficult for some which is understandable

 

With the exception of the m.2 drives and the "auxiliary" RAM slots (I had to basically take the whole thing apart and remove the keyboard to get to those), my current Clevo has been remarkably easy to work on. The new X170 has apparently corrected those problems by having all swappable components right there under the bottom panel. I think all I really need at this point is someone who knows what they're doing when it comes to the BIOS on the old/current one.

 

There is this set:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...clevo-laptops-rtx-cards-now-supported.825558/

 

Well that's certainly ambitious... Let me see about getting this MSI 1070mxm and getting it working first. As far as I know, bumping the CPU in the P870DM-G to anything higher than a 7700K requires extensive work like cutting and soldering.

 

Yes, ”extensive cutting and soldering” means some small pieces of kapton tape to isolate 2 pins and a bios mod

On the video MXM part, where are you based? Maybe you cand find someone to do the mod for clevo mxm compatibility.

 

Yeah, no soldering needed to do CPU upgrades.