P870TM1 and TPM (Trusted Platform Module)

Hello everybody,

As some of you may know the upcoming OS Windows 11 has a hard requirement which is the computer must have TPM 2.0 enabled. I checked on my Windows 10 and tpm.msc tells me I don't have a TPM module. couldn't really find information on the forum just that the reference motherboard itself for the P870 supports TPM but it was up to OEM to actually decide if they'd include the TPM chip or not.

On the manual for my laptop I found this information regarding TPM:



The problem is, there is no such option on my laptop's BIOS. Under security all I see is the option to set a password for HDD and BIOS.

Anyone knows if the option has another name on BIOS or what's going on?

 

This is the official Clevo downloads for TM.
https://www.clevo.com.tw/en/e-services/download/ftpOut.asp?Lmodel=P87xTM&ltype=9&submit=+GO+

Maybe you will need to flash an unlocked BIOS, it's better to contact your vendor, otherwise you can flash your BIOS from:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ptops-rtx-cards-now-supported.825558/page-239

 

Your laptop may not have a TPM chipset. Check the service manual:
https://repo.palkeo.com/clevo-mirror/P8xxTMxG/

There are two versions of the motherboard:


the one with -1 at the end doesn't have a TPM chip.

 

Interesting, do you know by any chance where to watch to check my board version? HWinfo64 doesn't show anything useful, just like CPU-Z only shows very generic information:

As far as I know my BIOS is already unlocked. Is a Prema BIOS.

 

Yes, the motherboard version is under the RAM at the bottom of the laptop.

 

If you go into device settings in windows security in the settings menu you will see what windows is currently actually detecting.

 

Well I removed the bottom cover and ram sticks and this is the part number of my MB:



It says P/N: 6-77-P870TM00-D01. Which according to your early post should include the TPM module??? But I can't for my life find the option on the BIOS. Maybe @Prema knows if there is actually such option on my BIOS.

Couldn't find the settings you described.

 

Yes, your motherboard definitely has a TPM chip.

 

Thanks for your help. Now I need to find out if my BIOS has an option to enable TPM, and if it has it, where is it or how is it called

 

Mine just says Core Isolation.

 

Maybe you don't have the drivers installed for it. You should write "tpm" in command prompt and windows should pop-up your tpm chip if it is available.

 

Yeah I just get this windows when typing tpm:



I can't find the TPM device on the device manager also there is no TPM drivers listed on the official P870TM Clevo site nor the drivers cd that came with my laptop.

 

Ok, looks like it's definitely disabled at the BIOS level. I would suggest you flash the latest stock bios from Clevo and try to see if you can enable/disable it from there.

 

I'm runninga HID EVOC Prema too @Tyranus07 on my P870TM and TPM pops right up:

 

Any unknown devices in device manager?

 

I'd like to take that option as the last resort. If I switch to the stock BIOS I'll lose the unlocked features from the Prema BIOS.

What's your BIOS version? I have the version 1.05.EVOC2

Not really, just a few "other devices":

 

From my knowledge all P870 series have TPM 2.0 chip on them. Heck even the original DM has TPM 2.0 (TPM SLB9665TT).
TM also has the same chip.
Enable UEFI boot and Secure BOOT in bios and it will show up.

 

I have my Windows 10 running on legacy mode and not UEFI. You think that's the issue???

 

YEEEEEAAAAAAAPPPPPP. You need pure UEFI environment for this to work. CSM needs to be disabled. TPM enabled. UEFI enabled. Secure boot enabled.

 

That's definitely the issue. You need to switch to UEFI.

 

LOL, you could have led with that.....

 

Thank you guys! it worked! Honestly had no idea that TPM was tied to UEFI boot, lol

Good thing I could convert my disk without data loss. I'm ready for W11 now.

 

It does all tie in together, TPM and the encryption keys it stores and secure boot/UEFI at least it's working now

 

makes me wonder if server variant of windows 11 will also require tpm2.0, and forces server IT to have a microsoft account to install it.

 

TPM is working now, but when I was trying to convert from BIOS to UEFI, I deleted the Recovery partition and now I lost the advanced boot from W10 and can't for my life re-enable the advanced boot. But that's a whole different issue now. Is like my BCDedit lost track of the BCD file. The laptop boots no issue though.

I hate the fact that we must have a Microsoft account to use W11. Makes no sense. Maybe IT would require a MS active directory server running in order to use W11. No more LDAP or any other directory server than MS for authentication

 

Sounds terrible.

 

well most big boys use linux so if microsoft wish to have a piece of the pie they better make it good and not limit people.

 

Scrap Win 10/11 Home Edition. No need for signing into Microsoft account to be able to use Win 11 with Pro. You can install the developer version without signing into their scam with some tweaks even with Home Edition. Not sure how long it will last. Pro is the way to go.

 

Yeah the advantage of a pro key

 

In W10 the Pro version let's you create a local account, but I heard somewhere in YouTube that W11 won't have local account option on any version. So, is not like that? W11 Pro will still let you create a local account?

 

Windows 11 Home edition requires internet connectivity and a Microsoft account to complete device setup on first use.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifications#primaryR2

With Pro you’re free from this cancer!

 

For now you can go in and disconnect it.

 

time to get the pro version, assuming there is actually something worth upgrading to.

 

The tech and benchmarks will be interesting to watch on launch.

 

yea but consumer system probably not available until sometime in november or even december

 

You mean prebuilts?