P870TM1-G screen compatibility

Does anyone know what's the screen compatibility on this system?, I remember that was a diagram/image but I can't find it anymore. The motherboard has a 40pin connector if that helps.

 

See the Service Manual for that model!

https://repo.palkeo.com/clevo-mirror/P8xxTMxG/P870TM1(G)_SM.zip

Here is a screenshot of LCD compability:

Page 53 of the Service Manual:

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nh58raq-np6855-screen-upgrade-experience.833976/

Different model but, started with the SM and went in a different direction as it only listed FHD options either 60/144hz and needed an addition cable that switched the panel end from 30 to 40 pin but remained 30 pin socket to the mobo.

17" model should have a ton of options on panelook.com

Easiest way to go about things is hwinfo to find the specific currently installed model and then paste that into panelook to find the dimensions to start comparing different models whether you're interested in a higher refresh rate, QHD, lower power, brighter output, etc.

 

I just did it and the panel installed is B173ZAN01.0.

 

It has the model B173QTN01.0 listed, but I've seen there are other versions like the B173QTN01.1/1.2/1.3/1.4, are they all compatible?

 

You need to look at the details on panelook.com

Just looking at your ID it's an AUO 17.3" TN V1/0

https://www.panelook.com/modeldetail.php?id=30300

If you scroll down you'll see options within the same series... to get other options you can search

Outline(mm) 398.1 × 252.5 × 4.3 (H×V×D) --- we know this fits because those are the physical dimensions of what is currently installed.

By the sizing I would say any of the below should work as long as the pins match up and the features you're looking for are there. Watch the voltages and make sure there's not a significant variance in them between the Original & New

B173QTN01.0
382.08×214.92 398.1×252.5 1
100
B173ZAN01.1
382.12×214.94 398.1×252.5 7
100
B173QTN01.4
382.08×214.92 398.1×252.5 2 0
B173QTN01.5
382.08×214.92 398.1×252.5 2
1300
B173ZAN01.0
382.12×214.94 398.1×252 10
9933
N173HHE-G32
381.888×214.812 398.1×250.56 12
7177
N173HCE-G32
381.888×214.812 398.1×250.56 4
1302
N173HCE-G3A
381.888×214.812 398.1×250.56 1
1000
LP173WF4-SPF5
381.888×214.812 398.1×250.51 7
3338
LP173WF4-SPF6
381.888×214.812 398.1×250.51 4
300
LP173WF4-SPF7
381.888×214.812 398.1×250.51 2 0
LTN173HL01-401
381.888×214.812 398.1×250.5 1 0
B173HAN01.0
381.888×214.812 398.1×250.5 9
17274
NT173WDM-N21
382.08×214.92 398.1×250.5 17
8550
B173RTN02.2
382.08×214.92 398.1×250.5 9
3600
B173HAN01.1
381.888×214.812 398.1×250.5 4
26
N173FGA-E34
382.08×214.92 398.1×250.5 8
7500
NT173WDM-N11
382.08×214.92 398.1×250.5 13
9201
B173RTN02.0
382.08×214.92 398.1×250.5 0 0
B173HAN01.4
381.888×214.812 398.1×250.5 2
838
B173RTN02.1
382.08×214.92 398.1×250.5 7
6022
B173HAN01.3
381.888×214.812 398.1×250.5 6
14095
B173HAN03.0
381.888×214.812 398.1×250.5 2
105
B173HAN01.2
381.888×214.812 398.1×250.5 1
50
B173HAN01.6
381.888×214.812 398.1×250.5 1
15300
B173HAN03.1
381.888×214.812 398.1×250.5 2
60
NV173FHM-N45
381.89×214.81 398.1×250.5 2
999
NV173FHM-N42
381.89×214.81 398.1×250.5 2 0

 

Different version numbers can be quite different in spec. You will want the exact panel to ensure G-Sync is retained.

 

Even if the new panel which is a different model also supports G-Sync?

 

https://www.panelook.com/modelcompare.php?ids=28924,44066,43687,35465,35472

The link shows you models that have G-Sync listed as a feature. The G32 is going to have the better color options on it and 8-bit vs the others that are 6 bit or 6+ FRC.

If you're open to other options sift through the list and figure out what's more important.

 

That list onyl shows FHD panels for some reason...
According to the service manual the B173QTN01.0 has G-Sync, therefore the B173QTN01.4/1.2 also has it... am I right?

 

According to the details of listed options it doesn't appear to have g-sync. If it specs out w/ g-sync confirmed on another site then it might work. As to why the list didn't include anything that's 4K / QHD I'm not sure but, you can specify which resolution you want to look at when you search.

 

Yeah I also looked for my current panel on that site but it doesn't list the G-Sync feature, so I guess it has incomplete information on some panels, that's why I'm looking for the specs somewhere else. According to THIS POST there are no 1440p certified G-Sync panels for CLEVO.. smh

 

No, the 1440p panel I have at 120hz never met Nvidia's standards for G-Sync.

 

My laptop model didn't have any 4K options listed but, it's working just fine with a 4K panel.

Use the measurements to look up viable models that fit physically and then pop them into google to find out how they compare from reviews. 1440P and 2160P are a bit different creatures than the standard OEM options.

As always deviating from the standard is at your own risk but, even if it's undocumented somewhere prior to doing it doesn't mean it won't work. I went through the spec diagrams thoroughly checking off options by component up the food chain to piece together that the components support 4K even though the OEM doesn't list it as an option.

G-Sync / Free-Sync / etc. are a way for companies like Nvidia / AMD / etc. to charge a licensing fee for certifying panels to be compatible with their specific hardware. Look into the details on a comparison like panelook side by side you'll notice little nuances for each panel. Some have closer to 95% color coverage where others are barely hitting 50%. Some might hover int he 5W power realm and others can go up to 12W. Brightness can be key when looking into using something that requires HDR for viewing the most detail. The panel I went with has HDR as an option but, when turning it on even at full brightness it feels dim with ambient light from outdoors fills the room. Refresh rates are somewhat more noticeable with 2160P than with say 1080P because more pixels have to shift their lighting when things move.

Key items....
Dimensions - if it doesn't fit into the lid it's not worthwhile to look at.... if it's tab-less w/o screws/mounting holes pick up some Gorilla Putty or double sided tape
Voltage - try to stay around the same as your current panel to avoid issues such as frying your components
Pin pitch - some use a 0.4 and most use 0.5

When comparing panels click through multiple reviews and some will compare other panel options as well on the reviews you find to give some idea on where they stand overall. The first thing I would do after taking so many into consideration is seeing what's available on the market. If it doesn't pop up with a diverse options to buy outside of China direct then it's going to get difficult to even get one delivered.

 

I am not sure if Free-sync actually requires a license.

 

Thanks man, I've been trying to stick with a G-Sync capable screen since I don't want to reduce the resell value of the system, but seems most G-Sync panels are poor quality panels. I guess I'll have to pick a FHD panel which seems to be the ones with higher quality.

 

It's just a different set of requirements in terms of behaving well under adaptive refresh and providing a consistent image.

 

Resale kind of depends on a lot more factors than G-Sync or not.

There's always going to be someone willing to by whatever you're selling it just depends on how savvy they are with technology to know they're still getting a good deal. You could always tack on an "upgrade" option to a G-Sync if that's what they want.

When I went hunting for screens the focus was just getting rid of the 45 degree polarization mistake mine exhibited. Sager wasn't any help w/ the warranty portion but directed me to the reseller that it was sold from. They took longer to respond than it took to order a new panel / cable and replace it though so that was pretty useless as well. My focus beyond replacing it was whether to follow the SM and just stick w/ FHD 144hz as an upgrade path or dig deeper into the specs and components to see the full array of options.

Anyone looking to purchase Clevo / Sager are looking beyond G-sync though IMO. Techies like performance for the right price. Right?

The laptop you have is pretty beefy and should be good to go for quite awhile before selling it off. In fact it's beefier than my current desktop when it comes to the RAM / GPU's but, my desktop is more of a server and doesn't really need those 2 items to be as significant for performance for what it's tasked with doing currently. Fortunately your model also lets you upgrade almost 100% of the guts w/o having to solder things.

My focus would be picking a panel that ticks the boxes for performance when it comes to the colors / refresh rate.... things open up a bit more when you deviate from 1440P which is just an odd ratio to me. 4K in most cases will be a bit slower response time due to 4X the pixels but, you can get some that get pretty close to 3-5ms if you hunt them down. There's plenty of options either way if you narrow down what you're looking for longer term. It's going to probably take some time to figure out which is the best option though. If you can narrow down the options to a handful then it makes the decision a bit easier if you put it into a spreadsheet and compare the options / prices to get the best bang for your buck.

You have 4 options to the type - TN / IPS / IGZO / OLED (there's another acronym but can't recall at the moment LTPS / LPTS or something along those lines)
Resolution - FHD / QHD / UHD
60/120/144/240/300HZ options are out there as well
cd/m - brightness
contrast
HDR or not HDR
8/10 bit
NTSC / Adobe color coverage
and of course response time

 

What about the power consumption? is there a limit?, I'm looking at a B173QTN01.4 and there's a slightly difference with the panel that came preinstalled (B173ZAN01.0).

 

https://www.panelook.com/modelcompare.php?ids=25358,31906

https://eurocom.com/ec/upgrade(2,435,0)P870TM1_NP9877_EON17SLX
Shows:


I would say you should be able to pull this off w/o much hassle.

Just make sure you get a direct replacement not a substitute from your source. A lot of swaps happen after you submit your order for a lower spec'd model than what you're looking for. They should either confirm or give you a list of "compatible" models to choose from.

 

Thanks man, I was worried since it uses almost twice the input current.

 

Little update. I just installed a new panel I bought from @SUADE8880 and it looks amazing. I lost G-Sync though. I forgot to take pictures from the process but it was pretty straightforward. The model is B173QTN01.4.



Thank you all!

 

Unless you pick a specific set of panels it will always break G-Sync but there is nothing we can do.