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    P870dm-g (Prostar) upgrade GPU to Nvidia Tesla P6 (16 gb) - PLEASEHELP!!!

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by eucrariano, Dec 30, 2021.

  1. eucrariano

    eucrariano Newbie

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    Hi!
    Dear collegues! I have a laptop Clevo P870DM-G (Prostar, i7 6700k, 64 Gb RAM). The native graphics card 980m burned through overheating and made a short circuit.
    I have a port of MXM3.0b on my laptop. The official specification Nvidia Tesla P6 says, that it has a port of MXM3.1b https://www.pny.com/quadro-tesla-p6-mxm . At the same time, Techpower claims that it is MXM3.0b https://wwwww.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/tesla-p6.c3036 . My laptop is mostly for calculating and this card is very suitable: "Coupled with NVIDIA’s CUDA parallel computing platform and programming model, you can send C, C++ and Fortran code straight to the Tesla P6 GPU".

    The seller said this card was a complete analogue of the GTX 1070 chip but with twice as much video memory. Also, he confirmed that the additional power from the slot card does not use, as do Clevo cards for which the modding of the slot MXM is required. Also, the seller claimed that this video card via Display port simultaneously supported up to 8 external monitors.

    Today I bought Nvidia Tesla P6 16 Gb. I installed the card, but unfortunately it didn’t start. The laptop starts, but the image doesn’t come out at all. I cleaned the CMOS - it didn’t work... Maybe should be flash VBios, I don’t know... what do You suggest?
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    Please help me solve this problem.
    Thank you!

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  2. Tenoroon

    Tenoroon Notebook Deity

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    Any MXM Tesla card cannot directly send a display signal to any internal panel as they are intended for compute tasks only. The only way people here on the forums have gotten Tesla MXM cards to work in laptops is by using Optimus to route the display signal through the CPU's integrated graphics. You cannot do this as the P870DM does not support Optimus because the MXM slot is wired directly to the display and not to the integrated graphics.

    You could try plugging in an external monitor, but I doubt that would work at all.

    It seems you have been misled quite a bit as MXM in general is complicated due to the lack of support and lack of standardization anymore. I would recommend trying to get an image from using an external monitor, but if that doesn't work, you should try to return the P6 as it's basically a paperweight.
     
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  3. Meaker@Sager

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    As above, the Tesla cards are not compatible as the primary GPU, you can use them as a secondary one for compute purposes.
     
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    eucrariano Newbie

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    Happy New Year dear colleagues!

    Thank you for your answers. It is already clear to me that I was not very clever to buy this Tesla P6 as primary card. I was deceived by the seller, unfortunately.
    From now on, I’m going to go with what I already have.
    As Meaker@Sager says, Tesla P6 itself is not a bad solution for computational tasks. Since I often work with virtual machines (I need both Windows and Linux in work), installing Tesla P6 in slave MXM port is quite real.
    As an intermediate solution (relatively inexpensive at price), I want to install Quadro m4000m as the main video card.
    Do you think it’s possible to do that on a laptop P870DM-G?

    Thanks!
     
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    A Quadro M4000m will work, but the only problem is the X-bracket where you screw the heatsink into. Most Quadro's have a very short X-bracket, meaning you will need longer screws to screw the heatsink down as to not damage the card by applying too much force.
     
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    Thanks for the information about X-bracket. When I install m4000m, I’ll write how the process went.
     
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  7. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Sounds like a decent compute/workstation setup to me.
     
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    Yes, it is. Moreover, I will also install here mutant QTJ1 (analog i9-10980hk, pin mod needed). Then it will be, hopefully, a very powerful workstation.
    Already I have 64b RAM, and in the future it will be possible to upgrade to 128 Gb. But this is already a task for the future...
     
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    I'll scrape by with my 16GB lol.
     
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    Hi!
    I wish to inform you that I have loaded on my P870dm-g Windows 2019 Server and installed the driver (disabled signature checking) on two video cards:
    Master - Quadro M4000M 4Gb and slave - Tesla P6 16Gb. The Tesla is reserved for the virtual machine because I will be running it into the Hyper-V via DDA (Discrete Device Assignment).
    Quadro M4000M 4Gb ran immediately, showing the image in both Bios and Windows.
    Now about the firmware of the bios needed to install the "mutant" qtj1 and increase (in the future) RAM to 128Gb.
    Passed from the native Bios to Dsanke Bios P870DM_ME_Disabled.rom (3.06.2021) with CMOS cleanup.
    Now the version of Bios 1.05.08, instead of 1.05.07RNS1, there is a logo Dsanke, a lot of menu items open in Bios, ME is disabled...

    From the negative moments that immediately jumped in: the image from Quadro M4000M 4Gb is displayed only on the external monitor on HDMI.

    Someone wrote that an image in such cases can be, but not backlight matrices. And really, when I give the outside light directly into the matrix, the image is glimpsed. I have to say that neither Quadro nor Tesla were defined in Bios before firmware, but Quadro did produce the image. I understand (maybe wrong) that in the native Bios there was an initialization of the backlight for the unrecognized video card, and in the new - not. What do you suggest I do next? I’m pulling up some screenshots.

    P.S. The X-bracket on Tesla P6 I installed from 980m and it all worked out without problems.
    On the Quadro M4000M X-bracket are very short and I placed 6 washers (2 mm thick in total). Also, I used M2x6 screws.
    m4000m_install.png m4000m_TeslaP6_install.png teslaP6_install.png all.jpg
     
  11. runix18

    runix18 Notebook Consultant

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    Have you tried dsanke tm ported bios + mod with cofee time 0.99 (to add 1440 compatibility and disable ME). Maybe that will work.
    Here you are (dsanke TM port, may edition with 1440 patch + 128gb patch + me disabled). this is the exact one I use on my P870DM-G
    https://www61.zippyshare.com/v/dwxXpF3k/file.html
    Please flash only with the help of a programmer for a good bug free flash.
     
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  12. eucrariano

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    Thanks runix18, but I found another solution.
    Finally Quadro M4000M on P870DM-G showed the image after firmware on Dsanke bios 1.05.07RNS1 with ME disabled (3.06.2021).
    The problem was solved by the firmware videobios from Dell Quadro M4000M version 84.04.47.00.12.
    Everything is working properly!