PA71ES-G With I9 (8950HK) CPU w 1070

https://www.fortunetechnology.com/notebooks/11850/

Is there anyway I could get this thru a USA Reseller like Hidevolution, XoticPC, Gentech?

Could They offer it with the 144hz IPS Gsync Panel???

 

http://www.hidevolution.com/evoc-pa71es-g-gtx1070.html

 

@Donald@HIDevolution

 

Good luck taming the temps on that one with an Intel® Core™ i9-8950HK.

No, the Intel® Core™ i9-8950HK in the EVOC High Performance Systems PA71ES-G is not available in the USA market. However, it does come with the 144Hz screen.

 

don't, just don't.

that turdbook can't even handle the 8750H, the unlocked CPU is an absolute scam. It throttles to a point which is absolutely pathethic.

 

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Don't buy it, please don't.

"I9 8950HK" (that's the first run for crying out loud)


"Consistent" CPU performance.

"1070"(1200mhz average.............in the witcher 3)


"Consistent" frame rates.



The fact that this machine made it past internal testers is astonishing. The only clevo machines that are worth it currently are the LGA ones.

 

The GPU throttle was fixed by killing CCC as mentioned in the bottom of the article. The CPU throttle under combined load will be fixed in Prema mod.

 

I know about GPU CCC throttling.

Premamod is testing+ not available from all retailers. We don't know when -or if the- mod will be released.


Until the machine works probably it's horseshit.

The machine should never have been released in this state

 

Prove it to me. Show me a benchmark without the CCC.

 

I honestly want to see what I could do with one of these. I also need a backup machine.

Haha if only returns were easy and didn't cost $200 USD from my end T_T

 

Same here,
I'd like to see what is needed in order to get good temps out of those thin and lights then with premas help remove EC limitations and reprogram the vBios to unnerf the nerfed 1070.

 

@yrekabakery - thanks for posting this. I've been out the office since Wednesday last week and haven't been keeping up with notebookcheck's re-testing with the updated CCC that we sent them.

 

Thanks, it's still nothing short of a train wreck.

I honestly don't know why anyone in their right mind would ever put an unlocked 6 core intel CPU in a thing and light chasis. This is a disaster. The notebook can't even handle the maxQ 1070 properly much less the unlocked CPU, for crying out loud it cant even handle 4ghz flat.

 

That is from the Schenker Key 15 (P955ER) review, which afaik is not offered with the i9. The PA7xES uses the 1070N not Max-Q.

 

Since I know Prema is A God i have no doubts in my mind he will make work it out. Im thinking about that I9 in the PA71ES-G Im sure with undervolting and LM the CPU will be controlled. Especially since LM works better by the more heat the Heatsink pushes out am i correct?

thing is getting a prema partner to sell one (PA71ES-G) with a I9

 

Could you provide a link to this discussion? Please and Thank you

 

Doubt it's physically possible to contain the i9 in a thin unit, but an i7-8750H after tweaking should be fine.

https://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Schenker-Key-15-Clevo-P955ER-Laptop.308452.0.html

 

I have a TOPMATE C7 do you think that would help out if i decided to get the i9 one. its a 5 fan ultra slim cooler hooked up by usb

 

No I don't think it will do much. The notebook's own cooling is just not strong enough. There's a reason only the massive GT75 can handle the i9's full fat stock performance.

 

Well even then...

 

No, Prema cannot make an I9 work properly in the PA71 without literally taking the bottom off, replace the fans, heatsink, make a custom thicker bottompart etc. It's physically not possible to make the I9 run at full speed in a thin and light case, not even with liquid metal and undervolting will help you. It's wishful thinking.

 

...still need an unlocked BIOS with IA AC/DC Loadline set to 1 to prevent overheating due to excessive load voltage.

 

You can probably make it work stock with LM (4.3Ghz all cores).

You won't be able to overclock it of course.

 

Not in a million years.

 

It can do 3.9ghz easily, but will melt down with 4.3ghz.

Sure.

 

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It can't hold 3.9ghz. It averages 3ghz flat, get of your meds pls.



This is the cooling for the I9.

Prime + Furmark:


1.8ghz.

here is a benchmark from a P7x
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/15746394

VS: MSI:
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/15809953

Notice the HUGE difference in physics score?

The Clevo is beyond saving. it's an abomination and downright a scam. Anyone buying this piece of junk is getting scammed beyond reasonable doubt.

Dell notebook running the "I9" on 4.7ghz on all cores:
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/15674938

 

Prime95 AVX and furmark running together is not exactly indicitive of normal use. Also wasn't Witcher 3 fixed with the new CCC version?

 

It throttles harder in the witcher 3(CPU)


Idk about the CCC update.

 

Yes that was caused by the GPU slowing down looking at the page before.

 

Thx

 

You sure have a nasty AW, can you send me some screenshots of the temps via private msg?

So far rather suprised about the beast you have there.

 

Only the GPU throttling was fixed, CPU is getting trainwrecked.

 

So then its safe to say that one with a 8850H would be a sweet spot??

Id know youd recommend a MSI Laptop But id like something with a full 1070 thats light and thin. Does the 120hz to 144hz really make a big difference the msi i was looking at doesnt have Gsync.....nevermind battery life its not important weight is

 

Nope, even the 8850 is throttling.

I think the best comprimise would be an Alienware or MSI GE, which are, thin...ish? but have full performance.

 

No thunderbolt on the GE though....no future proof

 

It's a bit of a mixed bag with TB. If you need it, then yeah, look for AW instead.

 

I think im gonna stick with the regular i7 PA71ES from HIDevolution

 

It will get the job done.

 

Eurocom sells in the US. I ordered a Q8 from their website despite the cpu throttling. The GPU thing is correctable by disabling/uninstalling Control Center, they may even have fixed it by now. I really wanted a fairly lightweight thin 17.3" with a fast SD card reader, 4K 100% Adobe display, GSync, and at least a 1070. I realize the CPU will perform at 8750 speeds but the choices for 8 bit/10 bit panels with 100% Adobe and Gsync are severely limited. I don't think you can get that with an 8750H in the USA at all, and I don't mind paying for the 8950 even if it won't be any faster if there is no other choice.

I'm just hoping I can get some performance out of the CPU. Maybe a BIOS or CC update will help. I did order it with the Grizzly Thermal paste but I doubt that will help much.

 

Undervolt and have a play from the ground up, see where you get.

 

I currently have Clevo P671RG with a 6820HK and a GTX 980M. When I stress it using XTU and MSI Kombustr, it typically runs between 2.8 and 3 GHZ. When I run Adobe Premiere Pro for long periods of time rendering it stays around 3GHZ. Would the clock on the 8950HK drop to something lower than its base frequency of 2.9 GHZ ever? How bad can it get I wonder?

What is a good start to undervolt, something like a core voltage offset of -0.020 V? I can't really undervolt this 6820HK at all, it gets very unstable with any undervolting.

 

It should not drop below its base frequency, though MSI Kombuster is a power virus so cards/CPUs often power throttle deliberately hard. These are not recommended for notebook use.

 

Whats a good graphics chip test in a window I can run to see how hot things get, if not Kombustr.

 

Heaven Benchmark.

 

Is there some way to get Cinebench R15 to run the multi-thread CPU test multiple times other than just waiting and hitting the button again?

 

Not that I am aware of.

 

If you are looking for a way to run CB r15 in a loop, then you can try this:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-line-syntax-bat-loop-detailed-output.815101/

 

Or perhaps find some other benchmarks that support it.

 

The Eurocom Q8 does limit the CPU to 1.7 GHZ if you are on battery power.

When benchmarking it runs cool but is constantly power limit throttling. It power limit throttles whether or not Im running a GPU benchmark while running a CPU bench. It doesn't seem to make any difference. It power Limit throttles whether or not I undervolt, about the same amount.

It keeps the CPU pretty cool, like 90C or less but it goes down to 3.2 GHZ a lot.

Any ideas on how to get it to Power Limit Throttle less using XTU?