I will check tonight, but to be honest I didn't notice anything at least with default blue backlight
Now I am worried as well![]()
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Remember the connections for each colour will be different.
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Anyone have any more thermal results to report? How have they been during gaming and have you applied an undervolt or new paste?
Also, how is fan noise?
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@mayuk, were you able to check out the keyboard?
I've been going back and forth with support the last few days uninstalling things, checking versions, etc, and they're now at the point of telling me to re-installing Windows - which I don't think will really help, and then sending it back. It's getting a little frustrating, it's a small thing but it's distracting, and it's an otherwise nice laptop and I tend to hold onto PCs for a while. So far support with both companies hasn't been great -
I am not completely sure weather this issue is there with my laptop as well or not. For complete green and complete blue I don't see anything wrong even after looking at it from different angels.
But for Red, I do notice it being fading out from top to bottom side of the keyboard. As Meaker pointed out, could be issue with Red colour lighting.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Try pulsing red to see if it behaves in any particularly odd way.
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The breathe/plus and other effect is working normally - it only seems to occur as it's fading out due to inactivity. Sometimes it works, the most time it flashes halfway through. I've tried different colors, resetting back to default blue, red, and others and all have the same issue. I did a clean install of Windows, only installing the new control center app, and it does the same thing.
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Are you still within the 15 days? If so, return it. If not, it looks like RMA time.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Could be a slight bias resistor issue then would be my guess. Speak to your reseller about it.
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Do you have the 1070 or the 1060? Can you guys please post your model's temps in the same model's thread name. This thread is for the 1060.
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Here are pics I have taken in dark room, slight light coming from screen maybe
Blue_Angled https://imgur.com/vJbg4H8
Blue_Top https://imgur.com/m9hpXOX
Green_Angled https://imgur.com/OIp82IQ
Green_Top https://imgur.com/68ef6Q9
Mix https://imgur.com/iVvPjHx
Purple https://imgur.com/LdFTnsK
Red_Angled https://imgur.com/k0RaGEq
Red_Top https://imgur.com/yghYHn1
Apologies for links, but I am not able to insert these images using 'Image' button for some reason
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Thanks - to clarify, when the keyboard is light up it's normal - all of the keys are evenly light, but the backlight can be set to turn off after 15sec, 30sec, 1min if you don't press any keys. After that inactivity, it fades the lights out instead of turning off instantly, and as they're fading out and almost off, the top few rows go to full brightness briefly and then go back to fading out/turning off. Usually if the keyboard is turning off I'm focusing on something on the screen, so the flash of keyboard out of the corner of my eye is a little distracting
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My understanding is the PA70 and the PA71 are the same laptop, the only difference being red exhaust vents?
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As far as I know that is correct
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Yes. Mayuk has the 1070 and theres a thread by sicily for the HS-G. Do you have the 1070? Could you post temps for bf1 or overwatch preferably in the other thread if you have the 1070 so others can see it?
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The p670hs I returned also had bad keyboard lighting. I didn't mind it enough to return it for that reason though
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I'm looking to pick up a PA71HP6-G from HIDevolution, should I get it or keep looking?
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What more exactly you are looking for in laptop?
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I'm comparing the PA71HP6-G to GIGABYTE P57Xv6-PC3D for running many instances of VMs or running multiple instances of an IDE.
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You are mentioning only CPU and RAM intensive tasks. Are you planning on gaming as well?
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I plan on playing 1 or two games once in a blue moon, but I would be doing 3D Game Dev in the future. I know I'll need around 16 - 32 GB of RAMLast edited: Sep 20, 2017
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I am not sure what will be system requirements for 3D Game Dev, I guess will depend upon application you will use. But I guess it will require a lot of CPU power anyways. I would still suggest to look for something which has deskop i7 (if your budget allows it) or Ryzen CPU (if you can wait) or Coffee Lake (if you can wait even longer) inside
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Totally forgot about ryzen, time to play the waiting game for ROG GL702ZC.
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I don't know if I'd wait for that 702ZC. The review from Notebookcheck shows it's thermals and fan noise are out of hand.
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My vote goes for PA71HP6-G then, 7820K option is also there if you are interested in overclocking. For only CPU load I guess it may handle overclock. I doubt it will able to handle GPU and overclocked 7820K under load together
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Same here. There are only two semi thin and light 1070 equipped notebooks I'd recommend at this point and they are the PA71 like you said and the MSI GE73vr. Both of these notebooks seem to handle thermals well.
There are a few more semi thin and light 1060 equipped notebooks but when it comes to the 1070, very few notebooks on the thinner side are able to handle its thermals properly.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
It is operating at a class of thermals that used to be left to the beefier machines to handle.
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Those new slim fans really make wonders.
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Is it true Clevo laptops stop working faster than other brands?
Also is there a reason that some resellers only have 5400 RPM HDD maximum?Last edited: Sep 23, 2017 -
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I thought it was a hardware issue like it generates too much heat.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Both 5400rpm and 7200rpm drives use about 2 watts, there is hardly any difference.
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Played Overwatch for 1 hour or something. Room temperature ~20
Below are max temps recorded
CPU - 74, GPU - 78
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Clevos have been the most durable and reliable I've had.
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I'm looking to do the same thing, upgrade from a Dell 7720 SE to the PA71.
Is the sound quality on the PA71 the same as the Dell?
In my opinion the 7720 has one of the best speaker setups ever.
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I think sound quality is good. I don't have Dell one for comparison, or any other good laptop/desktop for side by side comparison. So I can't give you input on quality comparison.
Keyboard spacing and feedback are good as well. I like typing on this more compared to my Dell Latitude work laptop . I know that latitude is budget laptop, but it's designed for work, so keyboard typing comparison seems fair.Borto88 likes this. -
I don't really have any complaints with keyboard layout/feel, but I haven't typed on it alot. numpad is a little closer and arrow keys a little different, but not hard to adjust too.
I am happy enough with the sound, the speakers are better positioned than the 17r se/7720. I'm still just using the default sound settings, there are a lot of adjustments available. One thing I have to play around with it the auto-leveling setting, it boosts sound a bit, but if you're watching a video and get a system notification it lowers the all volume a few momentsBorto88 likes this. -
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
I think Windows does that.
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HI! Thank you for your feedback about sound! Can you also leave your impressions about temperatures (internal and external)?
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EDIT : Deleted, replied on wrong post.
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And maybe some impressions over the screen brightness and colors? Thank you
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Compared to the Dell 7720 the fans don't run as much, and it's cooler in the wrist palm area, most of the heat is under the keyboard and at the top of the laptop by the screen, though don't really feel it when typing. The Dell also had an exhaust that would blow right on your left wrist. I believe both CPUs are the same wattage, newer generations probably idle better
The screen is nice, I think if you google that panel ID it shows the RGB gamut, etc. IPS is really nice in a laptop since you're always at a bit of an angle. I did color calibrate mine with a colormunki display, there is a noticeable difference.Borto88 likes this. -
Hehe, maybe you were referring to the post in your review
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Is there anybody who bought this notebook with gtx 1060? I didn't see anybody talking about it!
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Does this laptop support a second hard drive?
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2x ssd m.2 + 1x hdd 2.5"
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John@OBSIDIAN-PC Company Representative
1x M.2 SATA or PCIe
1x M.2 SATA
1x 2.5"
That´s the correct specssicily428 likes this. -
@Jason Novak
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@Jason Novak
Yes! If you make (even a short) review of your pa71 we will appreciate it for sure!
PA71HP6-G
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