PCMicroworks D901C will offer Intel Core 2 QUAD Q9650 3.00GHz option in August

If you are wonder how long you have to wait for D901C with the new Intel cpu, the answer is not long. They will offer new 3GHz cpu for (about) the same price that they currently have on the Q9550

 

Expect it around August 10th. Apparently that is when the release date for the q9650 is.

 

sfxocean, I take it they told you that as it's not mentioned on their site?!?

There will be a little re-jigging of the line up as well as the addition of the Q9650 - when they are launched I should think we will all be offering them

 

Just remember - with PCMW, seeing is always believing!

 

My order is still in phase 2 until 8/11 when 9800GT's arrive, do u guys think XoticPC will let me switch to the new Q9650??

 

Man! that's the only problem wanting one of these laptops you always think something bigger and badder is right around the corner( and it usually is),but i am still going to bite the bullet and order one anyway.

 

I don't see how you can be taking PCMW as a source. Their integrity is already in questions (see sticky), and their release dates have been proven wrong countless times historically. The quad options probably will come eventually since the specs seems about right, but I have high doubts about the release date.

 

From a business perspective I can see why sager would hold back on the new chip until all the current backorders have shipped and the return period has expired, before adding the new cpu to the lineup.

Otherwise, the backorders that do ship in August would all get returned during the "no questions asked" policy for a free upgrade to a more powerful processor at the same price they paid for the Q9550.

So if they start shipping backorders middle of August, the Q9650 should be an order option in September - total speculation on my part.

I repeat, total speculation on my part. Perhaps the Q9650 will never be added as a sager option

 

while my Np9262 was being build the q6700 came down in price they were more then happy to switch it from a duo core I previously had ordered.

-just remember they wont do it automatically, you have to be on the look out for price drops. after that when it's shipped you have to go through the RMA process (no question asked) which I almost did for the new process that came out, but I just left it alone. I would like to add this was ordered through xotic i have no idea pcmicroworks I figure it works the same since they both purchase from sager, but provide different type of service.

 

yeah...PCMW is for advanced users who KNOW when the product will actually come out, people that follow the industry. You can get killer deals if you are one of these people.

 

Or potentially killer rip offs.

 

You're correct of course and that's the benefit of the smaller companies like us - we don't have huge stock which we need to get rid of when new technology comes along, we can offer it straight away as long as it's compatible.

Incase there's any confusion Kobalt is not a Sager reseller. Sager do have a tendancy to air on the side of caution as well as having the stock decisions because of their size. PCMW, Eurocom, Prostar, Killernotebooks, Kobalt etc etc - we don't take cues from Sager, we do what Clevo enable us to do with the provided support and hardware. However I can understand that people might now wait for Sager's official support after what happened with the 860TUs here recently but if you trust a company there's not any real need to

 

Then again, perhaps there're just too many undercover shills (I think the term of art for online BBs is "sock puppets") for the competition trying to drag Sager down.


Innuendo's only fun when you're not the target, isn't it, sfxocean?

 

You are a mind reader as well ? I won't bother posting if so.

But in case you're not, I am customer waiting for Q9650 chip to hit the lineup. I've already had and cancelled an order with Xotic over the way they handled availability on 9262, and the way they continue to OFFER the 9262 on the website with no mention of the fact product is not available until Aug 10+.

It amazes me, how many folks on this site defend the vendors with vigor. They are business people, making business decisions, and sometimes those decisions are not best for the customer. They should be treated with a balanced respect, not as trusted allies.

They are friendly, but they are not our friends (for the majority of us, generally speaking).

We are customers, and when you understand that, you understand why they (the sager & sager resellers) continue of offer 9262 for sale with no mention of backorder status to customers BEFORE they order thru their websites. And why they could, but will not, offer the Intel Q9650 now starting Aug 11 when it becomes generally available. Because these are all business decisions, they are operating in the interests of their business, as expected.

They have to wait for their stocks on the Q9550 to sell down, and all the backorders that get filled in August to clear.

Then you will see the Q9650 in the lineup, at the same price as the Q9550 is now.

And if I'm wrong, we will see Sager & the resellers step up to the plate, and offer everyone who has a 9262 with the Q9550 cpu on backorder, a free upgrade to the Q9650, and ship it in August with no delay. After all, they are exactly the same price. Small compensation but valuable to the customers who are waiting on 9262

 

This is so not true, please listen to Shyster.!!! The customers are only peasants and slaves for the companies. Whatever Sager will do is always the best choice and they can never be wrong!!!

 

Thank you, gentlemen, for proving my point. As I said before, innuendo is only fun if you're not on the receiving side - did I ever state anything directly applicable to either of you? No. It would seem also that Jason Fortuny's theory of the green hair is also true (see The New York Times Magazine for Sunday, Aug. 3, 2008).

Do I defend the resellers? As a general matter, yes, primarily because I understand business, business practices in the computer industry, and general commercial matters, such as the U.C.C., and as a result I understand why so many of the complaints lodged on the forum are unwarranted and without basis. Given that, it shouldn't surprise anyone that most of my comments end up being in defense of the resellers.

In particular, the lack of any special "notice" on the various websites saying "not available until Aug. 10" doesn't strike me as anything out of the ordinary, and perfectly in line with what I have occasionally met with in such traditional stores as Best_Buy and Circuit_City, or any other traditional retailer - a good that is on offer for sale, but which is temporarily out of stock in the store in question, a fact that I am not informed of until I ask to purchase the good in question. That is even something that acquaintances of mine have told me about with regard to upscale cars (not a Ferrari, but with Mercedes, BMW, and Jaguar). That is par for the course, standard operating procedure, and nothing to get into such a snit about.

Lest you think that I'm just a resellers' cheerleader, need I remind you that I have, when appropriate, been rather hard on a reseller or two, such as PCMW and ISTNC (go search through the posts if you want to find the posts where I pointed out that ISTNC appears to have silently morphed itself into CC&TS, without so much as an announcement or anything else).

Quite frankly, it strikes me that, if you don't like the terms you're offered and if you're so sensitive about matters, then you should exercise your freedom to take your custom (and your complaints) elsewhere.

 

Shy, would you happen to be an attorney? Because it seems like the two of us are both in love with the sounds of our own voices. jajajaja

So I think I'll shut up now, & thx for asking

 

A fair offer that I shan't refuse.

 

I dont think anyone was defending PCmicroworks...

 

Why don't I have disciples that start threads like, " Killer Notebooks offering the Q9650 quad core in the ōdachi 大太刀 NOW!" I am taking applications.

I thought (and actually posted) that the Q9650 was delayed from the release date of the beginning of August until the 10th or 11th because a channel partner told me that. It turns out specific companies were able to buy up all the Q9650 stock. I was able to get one yesterday, and they have had them since Friday last week.

For super advanced/hardcore/DIY users you can also do the Q6600 pin mod to the CPU to get the 1333 / 3 Ghz CPU for about $350 cheaper.

 

Any issues coming up with supporting the Q9650 in the D901C? BIOS, firmware, etc...?

 

Please excuse us if we stick to what has been announced as public information.

Of course we have "insider" industry information, as do many of those who post here. However those who post here tend to be enthusiasts who through one means or another are also able to get "insider" information.

Once Sager and/or Intel make their announcements public, we will as well.

Now, any innuendo or direct accusations that somehow Sager or any of its resellers are treating their customers unfairly is totally unfounded. Every Sager customer is price protected until their shipment date, they are consistently informed of when that expected ship date is including any delays that arise, and they are given a no questions asked return privilege for 30 days after their ship date.

If anyone finds these policies to be unfair to customers, I would recommend that they buy their laptop elsewhere, although I am not aware of any other manufacturer that informs and/or treats their customers better.

 

Shyster:

No, it is working fine. I went to get a picture of the diagnostic screen from the start of the BIOS and it is just too fast. I can't snap the picture in time. With the quad core modifications I do at the O.S. level this should put down the competition at the Fastest Notebook's in the World shootout.

See a picture of the Q9650 packaging on the running Odachi here!

Paldin44:

Did I miss something?

P.S. Happy birthday to my 200'th post!

 

Umm...ok. What do you mean by price protected? Do you mean those people that bought the 9800gt's at the time the people bought the 3870's are going to be price protected and get their laptop's reduced by $200 or do you mean something more narrowly tailored?

Just curious as to what your version of price protection is? Thanks!

 

I didn't mean anything sinister by this eek I was just pointing out that after the business with the 860TUs and companies "shipping" dates etc that I can understand why people may have lost confidence in some companies and will now wait for Sager to support a product or confirm a ship date.

 

Neil, if it's worth anything, I didn't take what you said to be sinister. I learned a long time ago... never take pre-orders. All the way back when everyone was waiting for x800 ATI GPUs and even mentioning release dates was like a promise. If you take pre-orders, you are asking for your customers to kick you if it doesn't come through, and most of the time it aint even your fault!