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    PREMA BIOS MOD Review

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by HTWingNut, Jun 1, 2012.

  1. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Yes, the chip on my W11 is on a socket, otherwise I wouldn't be able to do what I am doing for you guys... ;)
     
  2. WulffM

    WulffM Notebook Consultant

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    Oh nice prema, so you are a step closer to the prema bios mod V2.0 cause you figured that ram stuff out now? lol have no idea wat you are talking about but it sounded like progress hehe.

    Thanx fot everything u do for us clevo w series users!!
     
  3. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Yep that's the idea, I am hexing my way through the BIOS. ;)

    BTW: Sorry @ everyone who recently tried to send me a PM. Sometime during the last week my PM box must have crossed my 1000PM limit and blocked all of you. Deleted about 500 hundred now....LOL
     
  4. steberg

    steberg Notebook Evangelist

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    @Prema, you were able to upgrade the ME firmware on your 170HM, is there a easy way to do that on a 150HM as well, just like the W110ER?
     
  5. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    YES, will push it along with the HM PremaMods, but should be upgraded only to the latest 7 series ME and not to 8. ;)
     
  6. steberg

    steberg Notebook Evangelist

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    HM PremaMods... Music in my ear... Something to look forward to!
     
  7. Clevernerd

    Clevernerd Notebook Consultant

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    Hi all,

    May i keep windows 7 with Prema's homebrew mod 2.0?
    thanks
     
  8. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Sure they just added better Win8 support, but you can still use any OS you want...
     
  9. GGarcia

    GGarcia Newbie

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    Any news on W150ER Windows 8 Mod?
     
  10. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    The RAM settings are non-functional on the Win8 BIOS...I know a way to fix this, but currently don't have the time to do so...I could release it without any RAM settings...not sure if that's what you guys would want though...
     
  11. Razyre

    Razyre Notebook Evangelist

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    Could you detail what things will be improved in the 2.0 BIOS? Does it have a proper GUI?

    If the improvements are worth it, over the 1.4 BIOS, could you release a preliminary version without RAM settings (Which I don't used) and then add them back in for 2.1? People can then stay on 1.4 if they want the RAM settings.

    I use W8 and personally, they don't bother me.

    EDIT:

    Also, Prema, is it not possible to add BIOS multiplier options as Throttlestop has in the OS? I know you can't change the FSB of non K/X/XM processors, but is it impossible/too much work to get it into the BIOS?
     
  12. ha1o2surfer

    ha1o2surfer Notebook Evangelist

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    I certainly do not use the custom ram timings so would use the BIOS and would be perfectly happy with it :) hint hint!
     
  13. Marksman30k

    Marksman30k Notebook Deity

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    actually, it would be OK if the RAM settings don't work as long as the GPU is still undervolted and the CPU TDP is still unlocked. releasing early would give you more breathing space and reduce pressure. Too much starbucks coffee is not good for you
     
  14. Razyre

    Razyre Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm with Marksman.

    Sure there are people who need them, but I'd just release an early version as said so that those that don't mind can take advantage of the BIOS in its current state ^^ Then you can have a rest, too :p
     
  15. onkelosuppo

    onkelosuppo Notebook Consultant

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    I'm with Marksman too. ;)

    Never touched the Ram settings.
    Now I am really looking forward to upgrade the machine to Win8 plus new UV BIOS in semester break. :)

    [Edit] @prema
    Tell us if we need to stop donating so you can recover from all that caffeine. :p
     
  16. gooface

    gooface Notebook Evangelist

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    I am excited for a windows 8 update for the BIOS, I am sure people would be fine to use it without RAM tweaks. I just want something new lol, and UV support if possible, if not i dont care, I just am itching to flash something new. (I'm a flashaholic, I flash new kernels and ROM's on my android phone multiple times a week)
     
  17. Rauch

    Rauch Notebook Consultant

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    Jesus Christ...

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be ignorant or rude, but I am quitting smoking and this Chantix stuff has given me a short temper.

    I'm sorry, but I get e-mail updates for this thread daily with nothing but people begging for the next release. Give him time, it's not a big deal nor is it the end of the world. Now, it has come to the point you guys are begging him for a half-assed release and to skip over features that were some of his original ideas for this...

    It's just getting quite annoying. I'm sure Prema has family, friends, and work to deal with. This is only a little addition to it. A hobby, if you will. It's doubtful that many of you are donating to him to entice him to work harder on this. It's not a quick and simple process like changing the background on your desktop. It's a lot of trial and error. I gave it a shot and gave up. Not only was it so time consuming, but the materials and information aren't very easy to get ahold of. Sure, there's a forum or two, but they only contain so much.

    So come on guys, until you start paying him a salary, just relax and wait for him to release his updates. Windows 8 is entirely usable without it. You can go without an undervolt entirely. You can always swap to it when it comes out. This shouldn't be holding you guys back to the point you come here whining about the next release. People like you are the reason I quit coding publicly. Always have demands, yet you never reach out and lend a hand, leg, or dollar. BUT you always want to hop right on the Beta train.

    /rant
     
  18. lastnikita

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    He asked for it
    Just sayin', don't smoke but relax ;)
     
  19. onkelosuppo

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    I have read a lot of times lately, that Win8 Fastboot/Secureboot does not only require the board to support UEFI, but also the GPU BIOS to support a feature called UEFI GOP. I hope this is included in the Win8 UEFI/BIOS update. (Not even my desktop 7950 supports it.)

    Just read that Alienware prematurely released an update for their M14x R2 which totally disabled the GT650, as it lacked the GOP support. It was fixed later though.

    @Prema: would you by chance know if this is a feature of the new BIOS?
     
  20. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    At least the W11 has got a new UEFI vBIOS and yes for some reason the UV, OC, OV hacks still work even in Win8 UEFI installation. It should not work in UEFI boot mode as UEFI also means the oROMs and vBIOS have to be signed andthus can't be altered. So Clevos BIOS has some security flaws...good for us. :)

    THX@Rauch: You are speaking the truth regarding my free time, but I never felt bad because people keep asking, just because I couldn't deliver, yet. I enjoy doing this for the community and a few nice words or a push at the donation button are allways a bonus.

    Guess you will have to visit the "change username request thread" and apply for "ExRauch" ;)
     
  21. Clevernerd

    Clevernerd Notebook Consultant

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    @Prema Thank you for your hard work, im currently using 1.4 UV and it's shifting my expectations, im still using windows 7 and happy with this.I'm sure the last Prema BIOS will be ready well before Windows 8 gets more 'mature', hehe ! so no worries. Xie Xie !
    !
    @Everyone : HAPPY NEW YEAR !!
     
  22. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    This is my current base. Have not yet moved it to 11/07.

    W110ER/NP6110 Prema Mod updated to version v2.0

    Changelog:

    - Updated Clevo base to v09 BIOS & v06 EC (Win8 UEFI support)
    - Removed no longer functional RAM settings (THX@Clevo)
    - Sata/Raid oRom updated to v11.6.0.1702
    - GT650M OC, UV, OV Editions updated to vBIOS v80.07.58.00.A1
    - Intel GPU vBIOS updated to v2143
    - re-enabled “Intel Rapid Start” menu
    - ME version Info now reported in BIOS
    - Additional HD bootlogo for BGRT/Win8 mode compatibility
    - Added Acoustic Management for HDDs

    OV EDITION in a day or two.

    ENJOY! :hi2:
     
  23. Marksman30k

    Marksman30k Notebook Deity

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    thx prema, I don't why Clevo doesn't just fire their BIOS team and hire you instead :)

    PS do you know if this BIOS allows Win 8 Secure boot?
     
  24. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    YES, it uses the Win8 secure boot/UEFI BIOS as base. :)
     
  25. WulffM

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    Thats amazing Prema! Would this mean that a version 2.0 of your mod will be available for the W150ERx ? would love to have that on my machine atm im locked out again with the clevo standard win8 bios hehe.

    Thanx in advance!
    Kind regards
     
  26. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    It will come to W1x0ER and W3x0ET, too. ;)
     
  27. onkelosuppo

    onkelosuppo Notebook Consultant

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    Prema you're still the man! Get ready for another donation. :)
    Actually I wanted to wait to upgrade until semster break, but a freaking cold is forcing me to stay home anyway. :)

    [Edit] LOL, you just released it on a day where 10 Euro are exactly $13.37. Coincidence? ;)
     
  28. Marksman30k

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    Secure boot up and running, this is just awesome :)
     
  29. rhx123

    rhx123 Notebook Guru

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    Will the new BIOS for the W150 have the voltage throttle (and/or OV edition) on the 650M removed?
    I'm sure if it is a donation will be coming your way.
     
  30. Razyre

    Razyre Notebook Evangelist

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    What benefits are you seeing? Secure boot basically restricts what programs and stuff you can run, no? Or is it drivers that talk with the BIOS?
     
  31. Marksman30k

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    The most important was configuring for UEFI boot, this meant a fresh install of Windows 8 on a reformatted GPT partition instead of the MBR. The UEFI boot is what accounts for so much of the faster boot time as the old compatibility BIOS code is not even loaded. The secure boot is then applied on top of that, it doesn't really speed up boot time (as it was already damn fast via UEFI not having to load legacy BIOS code) but it prevents access to the BIOS with the F2 button mash, you can only access the BIOS (technically UEFI now) via Windows 8 bootloader. Though, you can turn off secure boot at any time (via BIOS) in which case it simply reverts back to the traditional f2 button mash. As far as I know, there are no issues with restrictions, the biggest problem is cloning the drive as most software don't support UEFI GPT partitions.
     
  32. Razyre

    Razyre Notebook Evangelist

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    Cool, what sort of boot times are you seeing? I'm already getting around 8 second boots which I'm perfectly happy with just using BIOS.
     
  33. Marksman30k

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    Depends on when you begin measuring, I get roughly 7-8 seconds from the moment I press the power button to when Metro shows up
     
  34. Razyre

    Razyre Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah you're right, it's more like 20 seconds taking that into consideration, but I'm using an HDD, rather than an SSD, which makes a mahoosive difference.
     
  35. onkelosuppo

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    Someone who has just bought his W110ER from mysn asked my if he could use the new PremaMod 2.0 even though his BIOS and EC seem to be newer.
    His BIOS reports him: BIOS 1.02.11 and EC 1.02.07. It's the same version you can download at mysn.de. Can he safely switch to 2.0 or will it brick his machine?
     
  36. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    No problem :)
     
  37. steberg

    steberg Notebook Evangelist

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    I just installed Prema Bios 2.0 UV over 1.02.11 and 1.02.07, no problem at all.
     
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    jcorn427 Newbie

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    Hey Prema, I really want to install this mod, but I'm dual booting with Ubuntu 12.04, would the 2.0 UV cause any issues when booting into Ubuntu? Thanks ahead of time!
     
  39. jaug1337

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    It should not, you can try easily but backing up the current BIOS :)

    But it really shouldn't interfere with the OS.
     
  40. onkelosuppo

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    Thank you guys. ;)

    [EDIT]

    I am also now on Prema Mod 2.0 UV with Win8 Fastboot+Secureboot enabled.
    I am very pleased. :)
    The OS is booted after around 17 seconds, whereas the HDD takes about 10 seconds to power up. So with a fast SSD it should be almost 10 seconds less. :)
     
  41. lfvtavares

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    hi everyone, i need help. I just bought an Avell Notebook with a Clevo W3x0ET motherboard (information gathered by HWINFO64 v4.11), but there is nothing on the original bios that allow me to choose CPU options (EIST, turbo, etc).

    Someone know if there is some Bios Upgrade to this model?

    Thanks and sorry for the bad english.
     
  42. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Prema Mod 2.0 OV EDITION for W110ER is now on the blog for all you "Hardcore Overclockers" :hi2:

    This is my 1337th post, coincidence? :D

    It's a bit tricky to find proper voltage values without owning the model...I'll look into it again and shoot SVL7 a line :p


    A W370ET (17inch) & W350ET (15inch) mod is already available on biosmods.wordpress.com ;)
     
  43. lfvtavares

    lfvtavares Newbie

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    Hi Prema, thx for the fast reply. On biosmods.wordpress.com there is only a bios named "W350ETx" (my note is a 15inch), my question: the "x" in the end of the bios name, can i use that anyway?

    These are the informations on the original BIOS:
    MB Series: W37xET/W35
    BIOS Version: 1.00.08
    KBC/EC Firmware Version: 1.02.08SA1

    thank you!
     
  44. grichka59

    grichka59 Notebook Guru

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    Hello

    I've some problems with the new Prema's bios 2.0 OV.

    I can't o/c my gpu memory , otherwise the gpu and memory stay to 405 mhz.
    I can O/c the gpu like before but not the memory.
    I've the last 310.90 drivers of Nvidia , and use constantly the some monitoring soft (nvidia inspector) and Ts.

    Have you any ideas that can induce the problems ?

    In the bios , i just modify the CPU long duration to 30 and power compsutpion to 46 W.

    Thanks for your help :)
     
  45. ha1o2surfer

    ha1o2surfer Notebook Evangelist

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    If your clocks stay at 405, restart your machine with stock clocks and try overclocking again. If they stay at 405 even after a reboot, then reinstall drivers and use the clean install option in the nVidia installer. I have noticed when overclocking my card, that those clocks are the default ones when when the card/driver crashes.
     
  46. grichka59

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    thanks for the answer.

    In fact , when in o/c the card , i can put every frequency to the gpu core , even if the drivers crashes , it restart to a good value (950 with boost) , which can be increased after that.
    When i try to o/c memory of the card , and apply the new frequency , it doesn't work , the memory decreses to 405 , the same thing for the core frequency.

    Before i flash my bios (1.4 OV) to the new one (2.0 OV) , i haven't this problem , i arrived to put +200/=220 mhz on the memory and when the drivers crashes , the memory frequency was able to increase.

    When i restart my computer , the clock are good , 950 on core and 900 on memory.

    Before , my drivers was the 310.70 , and i justinstall the new drivers (310.90 ) , it doesn't solve this problem.

    Thanks for your help :)
     
  47. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Since I had to remove the RAM settings I included a little "easter egg" to make up for it and since user grichka now found it:


    The following C PUs now have the Overclocking function unlocked in the "BIOS CPU MENU" without the need for Intel XTU (Prema Mod 2.0+):

    4x (400mhz) extra:

    3720QM
    3740QM
    3820QM
    3840QM

    Fully unlocked:

    2920XM
    2960XM
    3920XM
    3940XM

    WATCH YOUR TEMPS & ENJOY! :hi2:
     
  48. timsp8

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    I have a 3840QM and v2.0 OV, but dont see the overclocking function. Does it have something to do with the Long Duration Power Limit? Or am I missing something?
     
  49. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Hmm, it should pop up on the "CPU Configuration" page...I only had 2 CPUs to test it though...you can drop me a PM with your email ID and I send you a little different version for testing.
     
  50. lfvtavares

    lfvtavares Newbie

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    Hi Prema, thx for the fast reply. On biosmods.wordpress.com there is only a bios named "W350ETx" (my note is a 15inch), my question: the "x" in the end of the bios name, can i use that anyway?

    These are the informations on the original BIOS:
    MB Series: W37xET/W35
    BIOS Version: 1.00.08
    KBC/EC Firmware Version: 1.02.08SA1

    thank you!
     
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