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    Pascal Upgrade?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by TheGreatAnonymous, Dec 29, 2019.

  1. TheGreatAnonymous

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    I've been trying to get a definite answer on this but have got mixed results so far. Thinking about swapping to one of the newer Pascal gpu's in my P770DM-G (specifically the MSI 1060), and would like to confirm if it's a plug and play swap before spending $500+. I've come across reports of users getting it to work in some older models, and even the P750DM, which is just the smaller 15 inch version of the P770DM, but no further details on what had to be done. I emailed Eurocom and they replied back saying it wouldn't work due to heatsink fitment issues. I'm aware that the Clevo versions of the 10xx series cards are larger and probably won't work, but the MSI card retains standard MXM formatting, so it should at least fit. Would there be any other hurdles in doing this swap?
     
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    You need to make sure the VRM is covered by the heatsink and that the vrm does not confict with the heatsink. You can assume any advice on the 15 inch applies to the 17 inch.
     
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    Sounds simple enough. Will report back on how it goes.
     
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    Feel free to post up picks if you want anything checked and good luck :)
     
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    That should fit at least :)
     
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    I am extremely curious how this will work out.
     
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    So received the card today and installed it, only to get no video output. Laptop powers up but nothing on internal or external display. Same issue I had with a chinese sourced 980M I purchased recently. I thought that card was defective but there is some other compatibility issue going on. Something about this model that makes it very picky on what cards it will accept.
     
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    What display panel do you have? (Hwinfo or device manager I'd will tell you)
     
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    I swapped it out a few years back due to a few dead pixels but the replacement was the same as the stock panel (LP173WF4 SPD1).
     
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    Ok so nothing weird going on there.
     
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    Yes, very weird. I've seen threads for confirmed 1060 upgrades, one for a 750dm-g (gecube card) and another for a 751dm (same Aetina card I have). These are all the same family of models so I'm completely stumped as to why my laptop is so picky, even with other 9xx series cards. Seems as if it's not a Clevo specific card I get no display, everytime. And of course Clevo 10 series cards are out of the question. Ah well, back to the 980M for now.
     
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    980M to 1060N isn’t much of an upgrade anyway. Speaking from personal experience, an overclocked Prema-modded 980M can beat a stock 1060N pretty easily. :)
     
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    True, not a huge loss, but would have been a fun upgrade. I mainly wanted to do it because I have somewhat of a distrust with 980M's. They were gimped from the start with the missing mosfets. Only 3 powering a 100W-plus card is not good and usually why they die. But for my next little project I'll probably just get the missing ones soldered on and go crazy with the overclocking.
     
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    Yeah that’s definitely a good idea. My 980M had all 6 FETs from the start, probably why I could go HAM with the the overclocking/overvolting and not have any issues during the 3 years I had it.
     
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    Was it a clevo 980m? Was it one of my old ones? None of them came fully populated from the factory IIRC.
     
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    Clevo P650SG BGA 980M.
     
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    It did tend to impact memory clocks and efficiency at stock.