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    Permanently disable Nvidia Battery boost..

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by TBoneSan, Jul 5, 2016.

  1. TBoneSan

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    Short of uninstalling GFE. Does anyone know how to permanently disable this filth that keeps switching itself on...Even with the power always plugged in
     
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    I believe you uncheck the "Set frame rate target when on battery" option to disable it (in GeForce Experience).

    [​IMG]

    Some versions simply list it as "Battery Boost"; you would uncheck that, in that case (although I still usually recommend removing GeForce Experience).
     
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  3. TBoneSan

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    Yeah.. that's what I do. It keeps turning itself back on after a reboot or two. AC is always in.
     
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    Have you tried updating your drivers or using a different version of GFE as I never heard of someone having that issue personally.
     
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    I have come across one or two cases where restarting the system causes the setting to default to on. Must be a thing NVidia either is really trying to push or needs to work out the kink here.
     
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    Uninstall GFE. Thats the only solution to avoid a lot of issues. I do understand you might want it for shadow play, but its just a PITA to deal with GFE's ********.
     
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    Thanks for the reply guys. Yeah all uninstall and try an older build. If worst comes to worst I'll kiss it goodbye. Basically I just want the Shadowplay.
     
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    @Phoenix or @Mr. Fox knew about an alternative to shadowplay. I hope they can chime in.
     
  9. Stooj

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    This might seem silly, but I've never had battery boost take effect when plugged in. Is it actually capping your frame-rate even while plugged in? That may suggest a completely different problem.

    I have battery boost set to 50FPS but it doesn't actually do anything with my power plugged in. Furthermore I run a 58fps cap in RTSS anyway (keeps games in G-sync range).
     
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    That wasn't me bro, never had that problem with battery boost turning itself on automatically but Mr Fox had that issue
     
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    Yeah, but i remember you and uncle Fox talking about some Shadowplay alternative. Maybe you can recommend that to the OP.
     
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    Use @j95 latest driver mod. It's awesome. And, be sure to delete all the GeForce cancer folders per his instructions.

    Yeah, that was me. It was constantly re-enabling itself running on AC power, and I don't want it enabled even on battery power. The Battery Boost gimmick is truly a piece of dog feces. Don't have to worry about that worthless piece of crap with j95 mod because the supporting software does not get installed, nor does all the other bloatware trash from the NVIDIOTS. That was one nice feature of SLI... that kiddie craptop junk is automatically disabled.

    Use Mirillis Action. It works better than ShadowPlay anyway.
     
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    Where do we get that mod good sir.
     
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    Nope, I don't even know what's shadow play
     
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    Well thanks for the updates everyone. I knew someone else had experienced this goofy filth first hand @Mr. Fox
     
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    Be happy you are not forced to use the Bloatware from NGredia. You remember the Green idiots had a dream that drivers should be updated from their thrash or Win Crap update? :D No thanks!!
     
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    The sad thing is, probably won't be many gamer-boys that pay enough attention to even notice. I suspect it is happening to some people that wouldn't recognize a problem if it bit them right in the hind-end. I had trouble with G-STINK turning itself back on with the Sky X9 a while back and the NVIDIOTS must have fixed that with a driver update because it does not happen on my own machine now. Your NVIDIA fanboize and gamer-kids probably leave it enabled 24/7 so again, wouldn't notice a problem if it bit a chunk right out of their hind-end. Thankfully, it now stays permanently disabled unless the NVCP gets reset to defaults or I manually re-enable it..
     
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    The same also with heat problems, throttling on cpu/gpu. They don't understand what's going on before the machine nearly is on the knees with problems :eek:
     
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    How dare the target market use their machine for its purpose ;)
     
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    LOL... more like, how dare NVIDIA release broken drivers that do not explicitly follow the orders issued by the owner of the machine. Disabled means disabled... period. Until I decide otherwise.
     
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    I must be the only one who doesn't have many problems.
    • G-Sync is fine for the most part. I combine it with a RTSS frame-limiter @58fps. Given it's a 60hz panel, if I'm playing CS:GO or some other super high frame-rate thing the new Fast-Sync is actually useful. Only problem I have is sometimes enabling it for Windowed apps as well can cause some weirdness. Often it'll detect some windows erroneously and drive the whole DWM at that framerate, usually 30fps. I highly suspect that's more to do with the software/app itself using the wrong DWM parameters and identifying itself as a D3D driven window.
    • GPU is not throttled. I can push it right up to the VRM limitation. Granted it's running PremaV2 BIOS now, but only because the 135mhz core limit was a bit low for me.
    • Battery Boost is on, but has no impact when plugged in as expected. Unplug and it does exactly what it should (got it set to 40fps).
    • Running GFE beta now. Actually loads faster, "Share/Shadowplay/Streaming" overlay interface is much better. Gamestream to Moonlight clients (phone/tablet) works great. I don't use the auto game settings though, I like tweaking that myself.
    Wish they'd fix NVCPL game settings taking ages to load though. Even on the 950 Pro it's a slug. Highly suspect they're using a crap database-like system for it.
     
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    @Stooj

    You don't notice it because you're targeting under 60fps. So you wouldn't notice it gimping your experience as easily. But as you said it is in fact on. So if you're playing with A/C and BB remains on the problem exists whether you notice it or not :)

    It's an unacceptable problem that's as @Mr. Fox said probably more prevalent than it appears just not identified. PCMR folk made 60fps the 'gold standard' and forgot that's an artificial limitation just like the console they so vocally 'ascended' from.

    It's extremely annoying for someone who's looking a frame rates over 60fps on higher Hz panels if battery boost wants to come keep switching on. I don't want them screwing with my performance if I specifically haven't asked for it.
    It can turn on at any time when a game is launched. One can't simply Alt + Tab to go switch it off.
    The game must be closed first, Battery Boost disabled in NVE, then the game relaunched. It's absolutely ridiculous.
     
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    Since I bench about 4 or 5 times more than I game, it was easy to notice. Within no more than 1 or 2 seconds I would see 40 to 60 FPS in Fire Strike test 1 or 3DMark 11 test 1 instead of the 100+ FPS I see with it disabled. I'm not happy with 60 FPS on anything.... game or benchmark. I want an absolute minimum of 75 FPS on everything and north of 100 FPS is better yet. People that mostly game and don't go nuts with monitoring like us overclocker/bencher types do may never notice it as long as the gameplay is fluid and smooth. If they are v-sync fans, then most of them are used to being tickled pink with 60 FPS.
     
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    Yeah it's stands out like dog's balls.
     
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    Lets straighten some things out. I target, very specifically, 58fps because that is optimal on my P750DM-G's panel. Contrary to belief, running 100fps on a 60hz G-sync/Adaptive Sync panel is utterly pointless if you configure things correctly. Similarly if you target a framerate above your refresh-rate in general. I often plug my laptop into my 144hz/G-Sync panel at home, still no problems. On that panel I run the RTSS frame-limiter at 120fps (similar reasons). If I had the 17" overclockable panel at 90hz I'd do exactly the same thing and run a frame-limiter just short of it. If the framerate was significantly higher (200+) then that's what Fast-Sync/Triple-Buffering is for. Benchmarks are an exception obviously because nobody actually cares about where the rendered frames go (hell, you'd directly them to an off-screen buffer if you could).

    I could go into significant detail as to why having a G-Sync panel and exceeding the refresh-rate is pointless, but that's a whole other can of worms.

    I certainly get that, but you should direct your comments at the right problem and to the right people. If this is happening, it's literally a software bug, why not put a ticket in with Nvidia about it?

    I repeat. Battery boost does nothing when plugged in for me (otherwise I'd be stuck at 45fps all the time and it would screw with my benchmarks). Furthermore I can disable it and it stays off on battery power. The idea of Battery Boost is sound.
     
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    So, the P750DM-G 1080p G-Sync panel isn't 75Hz like the P870DM-G? I did not know it was 60Hz.

    NVIDIA ignores tickets and pretends problems don't exist, especially when it's not their latest and greatest product that is affected. It seems like "we are unable to replicate the issue" is one of their favorite lines that is code word for "we don't care about you and the other customers with this problem and we're not burning any calories on trying to fix it." Might as well wish in one hand and deposit manure in the other one. As long as people buy their stuff they don't care whether it works right or not, unless it's their newest gimmick that needs to stay hyped long enough to make them money while they figure out what is going to be their next big gimmick. I can't remember a time in the past when I hated the best available of any product, but that's what happens when there is only one option that sucks less than the alternative.
     
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    Indeed it is. I highly suspect it's soft-limited by the panel TCON somewhere as it only ever overclocks to 63/64hz no matter who does it or what laptop. The LG panel is used extensively by asus and msi as well, even in non-G-sync machines. All hit the same limit when overclocking.

    Funnily enough, the last ticket I created was about the P750DM-G lacking G-Sync support in one of their newer drivers. Next driver release it was fixed and appears to have been fixed properly every since.
     
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    No need to explain, with games that need it I'll artificially cap the frame rate too if needed.

    What you wrote before sounded like you had it on activated while plugged in
    and you couldn't observe any problems since your game at 60hz.

    Yeah I was scratching me head. Forgive me if you felt I insulted your intelligence :)

    Yep unfortunately nothing ever gets resolved making tickets in a Geforce forum. Especially with old tech,a laptop GPU, and the problem only being noticeable above the general standard refresh rate.
     
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    I would just like to say a huge thankyou to everyone who contributed to this thread. I'm a Twitch streamer who has been racking my brain since I bought my MSI Apache Pro laptop. One day my games just started performing terribly. Not only was GFNExperience capping my frames to 30fps in game (only found ridiculous 'feature' from this thread), but I was getting a max of 22fps in DayZ SA (my main game). Since turning it off I get over 100fps+!!! Thankyou so much.
    Must have been after an auto update or something.
    Anyway now I'm seeing performance issues with my whole laptop lagging and slowing down when streaming and playing games. My hardware should be well up for the job and nothing is showing up in task manager. Maybe just another tick box somewhere?
    Seems to be worse when not charged 100%, even when the AC is in....
     
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    luckily, battery boost isn't supported on SLI so I never have to worry about it :D
     
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    What about when running apps/games that do not support SLI? Do you leave SLI on, but force the game to only use a single GPU, which would probably still leave battery boost disabled?

    Can you still install nvidia drivers without GFE? It seems like they are working towards forcing us to use it, even going as far as forcing us to "login" now to use some features (which is a huge pet peeve of mine, having to "login" to every single darn thing on my machine).
     
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    Yes you can :) Follow the description in the T|I thread. As well join the forum :)
    https://www.techinferno.com/index.p...t-upgrades-driver-support-modded-inf/&page=62
     
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    Hours spent chasing this down.. Thank you.
     
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