This is a petition to demand that a BIOS be released from Sager/Clevo/Reseller that will enable TurboBoost for those of us that have bought an Intel i7 Extreme processor at a premium being led to believe that we could utilise their overclocking abilities
Even Dell, who we all know hate customer modifications, allow overclocking of the processor in their more high end laptops (Alienwares and XPS M1730's), I think that as this laptop is seen as THE most high end you can go that user overclocking is disabled! After spending close to $4000 dollars for a laptop i expect to be able to utilise the hardware i configure it to its fullest potential,
Those of you who believe that Clevo should release a BIOS enabling TurboBoost and a form of overclocking post in this thread to show your support!
After this experience i highly doubt i will buy Clevo again if this isnt resolved.
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Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist
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Apologies, I should've read the recent D900F posts before replying. Consider your petition signed.
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Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist
Thanks man,
Gophns BIOS was beta and modded -
The_Observer 9262 is the best:)
Can u get the BIOS from Gophn to add the features?
I sign it too! -
Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet
I petition against this. You cry babies need to research before you buy.
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CitizenPanda Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer
Turboboost is useless as you have a desktop chip. Most people who use desktop i7s actually disable them.
Overclocking i7s are a completely different matter than the Core 2s.
There are no laptops, Dell or Alienware or whatever, that has BIOS OCing support for i7s, regardless of whether they are laptop chips or desktop chips.
If Clevo comes out with i7 BIOS Overclocking, they will be pioneer in this matter, and you have nothing to complain about. You could also find where you were mislead into believing your computer could OC via BIOS and send your computer back. If not, better do some better research next time. -
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Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist
I agree with BrandonSi,
People who OC CPUs and indeed any hardware do so at their own risk, so i dont see why, if it is at the users own risk why it cant be added. -
I petition for overclocking support for the D900F, and any other Clevo laptop that can use extreme processors. The M860ETU comes to mind.
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I agree that Clevo should support this option, given that the user accepts the risks involve.
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I will sign the petition that it should be made available, however, if you bought the notebook and found you are not going to get the option, I would have taken advantage of the 30-day money back gaurantee.
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This petition thread hsould have been made months ago, but better late than never.
I think the TurboBoost should be the minimum addition.
I have to note (like in my Ultra-detailed review) that the system is quite hot with the LGA1336 Core i7's (130w) processors.
I think the OC'ing would be more viable when the Core i7's get the die-shrink.... or if you are using the Xeon equivalents (X3xxx) which actually have a 95w TDP. But the Xeon's are quite more expensive at the moment. -
I positively don't believe Clevo will give us the time of day here with this petition, but hey, without any second thoughts, MOST ABSOLUTELY I also sign up to petition for TurboBoost and overclocking support for the D900F. I want to be proven wrong this thread is a waste of time.
I am actually going to Taipei in 2 weeks on work.. if I spoke Taiwanese and/or knew someone there, I do go knock on their door directly and raise some hellThat would for sure catch their attention
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Those BIOS have not and will not be released to the public as they offer WAY to much control over the notebook and cause headaches usually for the company. I know the M17x BIOS has caused MANY thread to be created because people thought they could just set ANY CPU's FSB to 1333 and expect it to run.
I do agree however that some form of overclocking be available to ANY computer, but i think it should be in the form of a BIOS people have to pass a test to obtain.
I can see where Sager and Clevo are coming from, the i7's have a 130W TDP i know the cooling system does a very good job of cooling it all the time. But what happens when somebody who has no idea overclocks it and then never cleans or monitors it ? The amount of people who buy laptops and never know what they have is alot more then people expect. Even for these laptops that not many people know about, all they know is faster = better not faster = more heat. They are just being VERY conservative ... and i don't blame them, but i do think the smarter and more responsible people should be allowed access -
If I want to play it safe, I can go to Walmart or Staples and buy a sub $500 laptop. But if I pay top dollar for an enthusiast piece of hardware, then I think I deserve the tools to really get enthusiastic about, or at least, die trying.
What is Clevo worried about? That we fry the hardware? if we do, most likely we'll go buy another Clevo laptop anyway. BUSINESS! -
what part of my post didn't you read ?
by the looks of it probably this part
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I know for sure they have an endless amount of beta BIOSes with all sorts of stuff they could let us try. We can sign up for them by giving them the serial number of our machine so if our laptop shows up fried we and they know we cannot claim warranties. So easy for example, If that's what it takes. And WHEN will a manufacturer release a REAL BIOS for a laptop like we have on desktop motherboards? Also, so easy. Thats really what I would like.
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calm down people.
this is a petition... no need to make it too personal.
lets keep things calm and collected... as well as respect others opinions. -
1. Get mad and demand his reseller fix it , they would have no way of know he overclocked due to the mobo being fried. This would cost resellers alot of money which would put pressure on Clevo to take it out.
2 Think Clevo laptops are a piece of crap.
The door swings both ways and face it people who want the humungus amount of control on the hardware in a laptop are very slim. The ODM's know people want it but to save time and money they cut it out. It always comes down to money. -
sorry about the double post server was stupid and posted it again instead of editing it and now i cannot delete it -
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i do know that
me and him argued about OC'ing BIOS's and stuff. I am just refering to ALL other BIOS's so nobody gets confused. But i guess that idea failed -
No matter how much I may disagree with what you say, I promise to never turn you into a nice t-bone or porterhouse..
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Id also very much like to see more options in the bios - at least the ability to overcklock the extreme versions via multiplier if not the qpi..
Would be nice once the 6-core comes out and i plan to get it and abuse it as much as i can ^^! -
Be careful guys, your wish may come true...
BTW a stupid question: Since when i7 975 become a bottleneck? It's like TurboBoosting a Lamborgini and driving it in Downtown area only. -
Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist
You can turbo a ferrari and never use it, its the fact that you've done it
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I would like to voice my support for this petition.
I would also like to express my thanks to Eurocom. They have provided me with a BIOS that provides working TurboBoost support. They were also kind enough to identify one of the rogue XP drivers on the system that kept consuming 50% of one CPU core (on the 3.33GHz model). This level of support is, in a single word, great!
Eurocom lets you install 4 hard drives on these units instead of 3 also, so that's amazing because you can have 4xRAID0 (instead of 3). Makes for amazing performance.
Thanks, Eurocom! Your support for what everybody else chooses to ignore with defamations like "dead OS" and your integrity in providing a working TurboBoost BIOS is much appreciated. -
Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist
Got it too from Eurocom, although mine is Beta
V.04E -
I'll keep hoping that we'll have official BIOS-based overclocking for our D900F's equipped with the Extreme processors. 3.86 GHz isn't too bad, is it? A nice reminder of the i386DX days
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Also, for what its worth, at least we've got TurboBoost working now
I have the same BIOS that you do (04E) and it works very well (except for lack of support for e/leet tool).
Thanks again, Eurocom. -
I will put money down you will never see the day with bios based overclocking
Would be nice ... Just being realistic -
Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist
Anyone know how to max out the Clevo D900F fans?
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This isnt worth it. You already have a extremly hot cpu, overclocking it is just begging for trouble. I am another person against this and think people need to do there research before grabbing that brand new 3-5000 dollar laptop.
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Yep, Fn+1 on the laptop keyboard does it for the turbo-fans. (Fn plus the number 1, not F1)
To turn off, repeat the key sequence. -
@all naysayers: thanks for sharing your concerns with us publicly on how we're really poor at doing our pre-purchase research, and how greedy we are with our overclocking needs - but in case its not obvious from the thread title, this is a discussion for people who actually have an interest in overclocking the system for whatever reason
So I'm sure all other wanna-be overclockers here would appreciate it if further posts were actually on topic. Thank you
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Can you add m860tu overclocking to the petition.
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Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist
Thanks for the Fn+1 thing
I was trying F1 and i was like?
Ill have to agree with mimarsinan, but i dont believe we are poor at doing pre-purchase research, i researched all the components and this came out on top as its the only i7 laptop (would have gone for the NP950 but i dont like the fact it is only a laptop CPU and 18.4")
But as Gophn has said, can we keep this as a petition thread only, if you want to flame make a new thread -
moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate
I will not buy a D900F unless they give me BIOS overclocking.
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Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist
Haha thats the stuff!
I highly doubt ill buy clevo again though, i realise its my fault for expecting overclocking, even my old dell did that -
I also sign!
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your old dell laptop had overclocking?
Either way it didnt have a 130W TDP in a laptop -
Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist
Well m1730 allowed me to OC from 2.8 up to 3.4GHz
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Yea Dell let the x7900 and x9000 oc
I thought you meant a inspiron or something lol
My vote is for the unlock of systems that the custer paid for. It's only right they should -
Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist
We need more signatories than this guys, keep it up we'll get our BIOS yet.
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Heck, I'll sign this petition even though i don't own a D900F (but i feel your pain)!!!
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HONESTLY GUYS, THIS IS CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/review/1565949/asus-ul50vs
Even Asus now does BIOS overclocking on ULTRA-SLIM Dual-Core laptops! I mean really! What is Clevo waiting for? Come on already! -
Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist
Clevos cooling is easily 2x of not 3x as good as any "Ultra-Slim" laptop this warrants a revamp of the BIOS surely
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Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist
Especially when you add in a 4th fan
I wonder.... 80mm Vantec Tornado anyone? haha -
Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist
@ Mods please lock this thread as the other covers this and is better equipped.
Petition for Clevo to give TurboBoost and OCing to the D900F
Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Mutant_Tractor, Dec 5, 2009.