Pic of GTX 480M + 3DM06 Test

Except that the first to receive a 480M notebook will probably be in June.

 

Relevance to the Mob. HD5870 being 6 months old instead of 2-3 months old: zero.

 

Except that 5870MR will be only 3 months old for"real" when 480M is "real".

 

Please try to follow along. The conversation is about the potential of ATI launching another kicker card in the 5000 series like they have in the past with the Mob. HD4830, & HD4860, or the desktop HD4770 & HD4890.

 

It's (480M) gonna be presented in 3.5 days from now and will be available for real no sooner than mid July. Retailers probably will have a few by the end of June.

 

i really hope that the temp wont be so failure like the desktop counterpart

 

Its really that fast for a retailer to have it in stock within a short amount of time after its announcement?

 

This mobile card has been in the works well before CES was here in Las Vegas back in January when the nVidia rep hinted at it. Hardly it's coming out quickly after announcement. It's about time....

 

if the older cards are anything to go by i think the 480 will only be available to new builds and not previous owners for upgrades for quite a while after release date.
lets just hope im wrong.

 

would like to see a vantage run, scores of 06 are close to 5870.

 

Right after CeBIT, I believe it was SemiAccurate which reported seeing a working 480M notebook, behind closed doors. They were under NDA and couldn't say the manufacturer, but we know it was one of the Clevos.

Point being, these chips have been ready for a while.

 

Yeah... so many rebranding before though!

 

And in other news: techPowerUp :: ZOTAC GeForce GTX 465 Review :: Page 30 / 33

 

That probably means Ati is far more efficient per watt and performance of GTX 480M should be about HD5770 (80% of GTX 465) ?? ........?

 

ATi might be more efficient, but I wouldn't say this card is going to be terrible (though I'm still sticking to 8500 Vantage GPU stock or bust). If it comes with 2gb, it could easily blow away a MR 5870 setup seeing as Fermi in SLi scale much better than crossfire.

 

My prediction is for 9000-9500 vantage score , stock, no PhysX. This is based on current Fermi architecture and TDP.

 

I'd expect significantly less, based on the shader count and clock speeds.

Considering that in the desktop cards the HD 5870 beats the GTX 480 slightly in Vantage, I'd expect the GTX 480M to be very close to the Mobiliy Radeon HD 5870 in Vantage GPU score; around the 8k mark.

 

taken from the nbr gaming thread http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...-between-nvidia-gtx-480m-mobility-hd5870.html

 

Posted a link to to some rumors for ATI's Islands GPUs in the Gaming forums:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...idia-geforce-gtx-480m-out-19.html#post6305581

 

We should make an official rumours thread on this forum

 

I'd contribute but I wouldn't want to moderate it.

Definitely some info to process there though. A Broadway replacement coming out by the end of 2010 and a new top end mobile with the 256-bit + GDDR5 combo we've all been hoping for coming out early 2011. Also if legit it looks like that ATI may continue using the lower Performance level desktop GPU for the Enthusiast level mobile card as desktop top-end would be moving to a 384-bit bus.

 

Nice find, Phinagle! As always. Repped!

 

I've already been running the Calpella and Huron River threads but I am not a moderator and I am not going to start another general one.

Side-note: The reason why I make these threads in the Clevo section and not in the main forum is because Clevo forum users are generally more knowledgeable when it comes to this stuff, they also more interested.

 

I like to imagine this includes me

 

I doubt it, keep in mind that the Mobility 5870 is NOT the same architecture as the desktop 5870. It is based on the architecture of 5770 instead.

With that said, the Desktop 5870 has yet to have its mobile version....

 

By architecture I mean the overall design, not the specifics like shader count, die size and memory bandwidth. Juniper is very similar to Cypress, except with half the SPs and a 128-bit memory bus instead of 256-bit; AMD labels both as having its "Terascale 2" architecture (see here), though it hasn't changed much since the 4 series apart from the introduction of DirectX 11.

It seems that the desktop GTX 465 gets slightly less than 12k in Vantage GPU score, but considering that the 480M has ~30% lower core and shader clocks and ~25% lower memory clock, I'd only expect the 480M to get around 8.5K for a Vantage GPU score, maybe 9K.

For reference, the desktop 5770 got almost 10k on the same site.

 

Hmm... Now that I saw the terrans force logo on that screenshot, it's the brand of a Clevo reseller in China, I've actually seen their shop before, which is setup in a electronics mall 1-2hrs drive from the place I'm working now, they already have the W880CU up on display, though it's not on so I'm not sure whether it's the 480M inside.

 

News at 11: Computer shop broken into. It appears as though the culprit used an Alienware M17x to break into the store by throwing it through the display window. Said person only took 1 laptop, and his vendetta is still yet to be determined.

 

Since your so close, ask them to show you it and take a camera along...do a mini review...

 

To show what Aluminum casing of the M17x can do?

 

According to notebook check it's still behind 285M Sli but not by much:

 

Not saying that it's not true Geforce2go, but I would not trust those numbers yet. + 3Dmark06 < Vantage ^^

 

Have you bothered to check the source of those benchmarks?

They are exactly the ones posted on this forum ).

 

Those are taken from notebookcheck 480m page.

 

Which links to this thread as it's source.

 

Ouch. I see the point. Not even a review website (like anandtech) won't get a hold of this.

 

Sorry... I didn't notice the links above the benchmarks came from here.

 

Here are the Benchmarks for the new GTX 480M in the Sager NP9280 vs. the ATi 5870.

 

I don't get it. The 480M is on a Clevo D900F, and the ATI is on an ASUS G73?

 

Correct...

But, I don't get what you don't get.

 

i think hes saying he would like to have seen clevo vs clevo. Those numbers look good. Does nvidia usually out pace ati so much in 3dmark 06? The vantage score is close, my 5870 is sightly over-clocked and pulling in around 10k.

 

Thanks for posting that Donald ... Im not really sure what to say about the performance of the 480m but i can say for certain that its not what i was expecting and leave it at that ....

 

The two CPUs being so different make the entire comparison pretty pointless. Isn't there a way you could compare them both in the same notebook or at least one with matching memory and cpu.

 

Those are really unfair benchmarks. Using the I7-980X on the D900F messed things up, as well as the fact that the D900F Vantage runs clearly had PhysX enabled.

 

Unfortunately it would be pretty tough to compare with identical platforms because the ASUS G73JH only has the 5870 and the Sager NP9280 does not.

Likewise, the Sager NP9280 has the GTX 480M and the ASUS G73JH does not.

To say the benchmarks are unfair is not really true if you consider we are comparing two different model laptops, not just the video cards themselves. What is obvious is that the Sager NP9280 dominates the ASUS G73JH. This is due to not only the video cards, but the entire platform.

 

In other words guys, paladin44 is not trying to sell you the GPU he's tring to sell you the notebook.

 

I will ask Sager to produce benchmarks with a more similar CPU, although since one uses the X58 chipset while the other uses the H55 chipset the CPUs cannot be the same.

Also it cannot use the same memory because the Sager NP9280 has 3 memory slots where the ASUS G73JH has 4. However I will ask Sager to do it with 6GB in the Sager NP9280 as against the ASUS G73JH with 8GB.

 

Im kinda shocked at some of the scores to be honest and not for the better ...

The Average scores and the GPU scores are what people should be focusing on in those numbers.... Some of them will be CPU influenced as well, so coupled with say a 920xm(W880CU) will be even lower on the 480m side then what we are seeing now... They look OK but not what i was expecting at all for that kind of $$$...


Some Dirt 2 and that new Alien Vs Predator Benchmark would be good to see some comparisons on...

 

This really makes the 480m look bad, since from my experience Nvidia cards don't get much faster even with much better cpus, but ATis do.

My example of this is playing the same game, on with an 8600m GT and a T5750, the other machine with a 3670 and T6600. The Nvidia machine was faster because the ATi one was much more cpu reliant.

It looks as though the ATi could be faster if they both had the i7-980X.

 

i doubt the ati is faster, but this was a once sided fight....the sager is like 3x as much as the g73.