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    Plastics on 5793 seem chintzy

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by allbald, May 2, 2008.

  1. allbald

    allbald Notebook Evangelist

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    I just received the 5793 and aesthetically I have to admit, I am disappointed. It just does not seem to have a seemless look that I was hoping for. I can live with it for the performance (and hopefully build though I am beginning to doubt this looking at it). Also, does the 9262 have a better grade of plastics?

    Also, is it my imagination or are the plastics used on this machine a grade below what's used in the HP laptop from work I have (an old nc8230 -- which has sucka** performance)?
     
  2. cotolay

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    Are you sure? mine seems like a tank in front of an HP.
     
  3. allbald

    allbald Notebook Evangelist

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    Might be perceived quality on my part however, the HP is a buisness class notebook does seem to be more "solid". The plastics grade just seem much better on my 3 year old business laptop.

    Makes me a bit concerned as far as build quality. Curious if the build qulity on the 9262 is better or at least uses better plastics. Maybe its the ugly matte plastic finish thats bugging me on a $2200 laptop.
     
  4. Justin@XoticPC

    Justin@XoticPC Company Representative

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    The 5793 build quality has received glowing reviews from many owners here on the forums. It is a matte finish, while the 9262 also has a great build quality and a Glossy/Shiny Finish.
     
  5. allbald

    allbald Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks Justin. So its just a perception thing on my part perhaps? Are the plastics roughly equivalent quality on both machines, 9262 and the 5793?
     
  6. Nirvana

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    the built quality of 5793 is excellent, however, i personally prefer HP's NC/NX built quality better
    this one has the best quality i ever tried:
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  7. allbald

    allbald Notebook Evangelist

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    Although, the performance on my work laptop bites -- its seems the plastics are of better subjective quality -- as i mentioned before its an aging nc8230.
     
  8. Justin@XoticPC

    Justin@XoticPC Company Representative

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    In my opinion the only difference is glossy vs matte finish on the plastics between the models. I think they are both solid builds. The casing is very durable on both (one test you can do is push on the back of the screen with your finger and see if you notice any ripple effects in the screen). You will notice the casing is firm and solid. :) Just my two cents...
     
  9. bigjohnsonforever

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    I love matte; glossy just seems too flashy and yuppie IMO, plus it gets all smeary and scratches more easily...

    If you wanted a flashy show-boat laptop you should have gotten an Alienware...
     
  10. allbald

    allbald Notebook Evangelist

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    I think there is a difference between flashy and understated elegance and plain fugly. This is much more on the fugly side than understated elegance side.

    But looks are eye of the beholder so I get that this appeals to a large percentage of the folks that got it. I was expecting a much smoother finish -- i should have just gone with a retailer that offered a paint job and gotten a black automotive paint finish on it. The aluminum looks so so and plastic around the keyboard and underneath the machine just looks low class to me -- dare I say it -- a dell look to it. The fake plastic carbon fibre attempt around the keyoard is simply an eyesore beyond belief.
     
  11. bigjohnsonforever

    bigjohnsonforever Notebook Evangelist

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    Yep everyone is entitled to their own opinion and FYI, if you got a few hundred and can do without your notebook for a bit, contact XoticPC, I hear they do great custom paint jobs and they just might work with you even if you didn't buy from them... I'm not sure but its worth a phone call or email...

    http://www.xoticpc.com/contact_us.php
     
  12. allbald

    allbald Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks -- I will think about it.
     
  13. zfactor

    zfactor Mastershake

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    imo all notebooks except ones that have metal casings are flimsy. i do however agree this one is a bit more flimsy than say my toshiba is. the plastics do seem to have more give to them. but nothing thats horrible. with any plastic notebook you will see some waves in the plastic heck even most metal ones you will also. imo due to the design of this notebook being fully upgradable by the customer they had to make it with a lot of space inside. if you look at a lot of other notebooks inside and see what needs to come apart to get to things like the cpu and the ram in some.. imo they did a pretty good job of keeping this braced well.
     
  14. Akakios

    Akakios Notebook Guru

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    allbald,
    I wouldn't worry about the stability and or quality of this machine. I seriously don't think you will have any issues at all! Hinge quality of the screen is top notch and the rest of the assembly from what I can tell so far is fantastic.
    As far as performance, well, I think all of the reviews and apparent amazement on this forum and on many others that I've been reading speak or themselves! For the price of the machine, you are by far getting your money worth!
     
  15. bigjohnsonforever

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    Toughbooks aside, I must say that the Lenovo ThinkPad T61 is the best built notebook I have ever used bar far... they are as solid as you can make a notebook, aside from using pounds of metal to reinforce chassis strength such as in toughbooks (the T61 does have magnesium roll cages around the base and screen).
     
  16. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    My idea of the best built notebooks:

    Lenovo TP>HP buisness class>dell precision/Clevo> All the rest
     
  17. Nirvana

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    hkman where is toughbooks? lol
    perhaps thinkpad has the best built overall, but the one i posted have best palm rest feeling for sure.
     
  18. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    Thats a entirely new category ;) You cant compare it with the rest.
     
  19. allbald

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    Yeah I agree with this having owned lenovo and hp business class before.

    I think I had a really bad experience with a sager in the mid 90s where the machine would continually reboot.

    I just thought the plastic finish should look better. I really wished they had just encased the surfaces in magnesium like they used to do on the old thinkpads. I think the crappy looking matte plastic is messing with my mind. The keyboard though decent is not up thinkpad standards. I wish I could this performance with thinkpad build quality. I suppose maybe the hp8710w with a quadro 3600m might have been the smarter choice albeit quite a bit more expensive.

    On the plus side, the screen is beautiful and has higher res than my home machine 20in lcd -- lol.
     
  20. zfactor

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    actually i agree for the most part. imo the build quality of the hp and lenovo business line is BETTER than the sager. but they are meant as business class notebooks. this overall while def meant to be used is more imo in the gaming class. its not i dont think meant as a business class system. my sister has the 8710 and that thing is built like a rock!!

    i also agree about the keyboard. i LIKE this keyboard a lot. but i LOVE the one on her hp 8710