Please offer FHD G-Sync with touchscreen

Offer a 14" (preferably) or 15.6" FHD IPS G-Sync with a touchscreen , and I'll buy it in a heartbeat. Basically a Razer Blade FHD clone, but with G-Sync and touch. Just letting you know there's a market for this, and I, as well as a co-worker of mine would both buy one.

Thanks

 

It's not really up to anyone here, it's up to OEMs as to what screens are made. Also, no offense, but 2 people isn't necessarily indicative of a market for a product.

 

Two things I already know. I'm just trying to get a dialog started, and hopefully word reaches the OEMs. If you know of a better way to make it happen please share.

 

They are more offered at gamers who don't tend to want to put finger prints on the screen. It requires a fair bit of cost to put in too (even without actually putting it in but to have as an option).

 

Before I returned my alienware 15, touch was a pretty cool feature. I rarely used it but one thing I really liked was the glass that covered the screen and the bezel. It looked really nice. And it came in handy when I was laying down (lazy couch mode) all I had to do is use it like a tablet. Even on the beefy hinge on the alienware it wobbled, so that would need to be addressed if they ever decide to add touch. A digitizer layer between the screen and outer glass with LOCA is how I think touch screens work. So, even though it's more costly and unessesary, since ive had it before..I'll have to vote yes on this one..

 

That is correct.

There's no additional 'outer glass' though (as with some non-touch AWs), except for the TS itself. Doing so would render the touchscreen pretty much inoperable.

Increases cost by ~$150 for the digitiser itself, but also another +$25, give or take, to make laptop compatible. Of course, this will have to be paid by non-touch customers, too. Do think you'll want to make it full bga+ssd-only then; appeal to different customer base.

 

This...I flip my $%^& when people touch my screens.

I can understand if it were a dedicated tablet or convertible (I had a HP TM2 convertible back in the day, it was great), but regular laptops with touchscreens are silly. Think about it:
-The purpose of a touchscreen is to access functions both visually (take screen space) and where other input lacks (no keyboard or minimal buttons)
-A regular laptop has an entire keyboard worth of buttons

Short of touch games or drawing/handwriting (which would be damn weird on a laptop that wasn't convertible) then it's really a waste of functionality. Everything else the touchscreen does can be done with well known keyboard shortcuts, without losing the screen space to make things touch friendly. To make things worse, most touch-pads support typical screen gestures (pinch zoom/scroll etc), it seems like a huge efficiency loss to take one hand away from the keyboard line every few seconds as a mouse when the touchpad is right there.

 

Yeah, I completely agree to that. Most people I talk with who get a convertible would like that as an option. I think a lot of people looking at laptops either for gaming or work stations see touch screen as an option they would be essentially paying for to not use.

 

I know you talk to a lot more people than I do, but in my experience it's been the exact opposite. When I think about it, the majority of people I've talked to are Microsoft Surface, or 2 in 1 users who like that platform, but want a powerful dedicated GPU in them.

Pat, I would buy a Sager NP8657 from Xotic pc right this minute if it had a touchscreen option. All I ask is that you try and communicate that to the people that can make it happen.

 

I think it comes down to the uses of a touchscreen and gaming don't really go together (unless basic gaming that the integrated could handle). The size of the machines with dedicated GPU's would typically be prohibitive of the convertible style touch screen PC.

Can i ask the reason you were wanting a touchscreen? We will pass the message along, just saying the reasons why it typically isn't offered.

 

I don't personally understand that sentiment. If that were the case, then why does a touchscreen variant of the Razer Blade exist? There are convertibles with dGPU's already, but they max out at a 960m.

I don't have a great reason to give other than it's an option I would prefer, and would use a lot. I'm buying my next laptop not just to game, but to be a jack of all trades. I'm content with the fact that it won't be as thin and light as a convertible or ultrabook, but at least it would have some of the same important (albeit to me) features.

 

Just typically, there are always exceptions to the rule

Thanks for the feedback, i will pass it on.

 

The Blade variant with touchscreen exists because it's Razer and they're weird like that. What other company would have a "Pro" version of their laptop which has an inferior screen, inferior GPU and even worse thermal performance (somehow!) yet still costs more... Oh but it has the super gimmicky and laggy switchblade interface.

AFAIK, there's definitely no convertible tablets with a 960M as most of them use ULV processors and have far too little power budget.

I think the problem you'd have, is when you go for a tablet form-factor you REALLY will want a dual-purpose touchscreen (ie Wacom style pen + touch + palm rejection). Touch on it's own is of little use, especially for typing (precisely why keyboard attachments for things like the surface are practically a requirement). If you don't want a keyboard then the only serious input method is pen/writing which you will NOT find on any regular form-factor laptop with a touch-screen built in.

The last company that I'm aware of that built a convertible with a mid-range dGPU and proper pen support was Fujitsu (had a 740M I believe).

If you haven't used a tablet as your primary machine, then I highly suggest getting something like a base level Surface3 (or maybe a second hand surface pro2?) and try it out as a daily driver. You'll probably find that you'll quickly find yourself always using the type-cover keyboard. If you don't use Metro apps you'll probably find yourself using the pen or type-cover touchpad to do most of your mouse pointing as well as they're far more accurate in regular desktop mode.

I had a HP TM2 (convertible) through uni and work as a sysadmin and 90% of the time it was used like a regular laptop. On the occasion I would use it in full tablet mode for note-taking or drawing/sketching which is where the convertible really came in handy. Unfortunately I don't think we've reached the point where we can get a 80-100W power budget in a slate tablet (just too much heat to get out of it).

 

Thank you Alex, I really do appreciate it.

 

No problem man. I'm glad that you brought it up, the more people who bring it up will mean a more call to action for manufactures. I just think right now there isn't that wide demand for the two in one, and really the reason why all three device types are still wildly popular. There is a point to a smartphone, tablet and a laptop and while they are very similar, they all have their usage profiles (and i use all 3 on a daily basis). For me at work i couldn't image having to use a touch screen on my laptop as it would slow me down to reach up to the screen removing my hands from the mouse/keyboard. I could see possibly in school it being nice to have the convertible style.