Possible to Run Hackintosh in Clevos?

Just wondering, has anyone here managed to run Hackintosh on their Clevos?

This is kinda important for my future planning...

Thanks!

 

There have been a few specific models with the right chips used, nothing official of course

 

Yes, my own W230SS runs OS X Mavericks (probably can run El Cap and this year's OS X too). Easy enough, there are plenty of tools and resources around, including the InsanelyMac forums, TonymacX86 forums, /r/hackintosh sub-reddit, MacBreaker blog, etc.

 

Not sure what you mean by right chips...

Thanks, I have it running on a Q6600 rig actually and been considering doing the same to my NP8170...

 

As OSX is a closed os it has a specific set of drivers that your hardware has to match to. Hence you need the right chips.

 

So something like right CPU, right GPU, right RAM (?) e.t.c.?

 

Sound chip, network, touchpad etc.

 

Wow, so it's a matter of luck eh... (I am just worried about the network chip; the rest can be replaced with USB devices)

 

There may be work arounds but that's the general idea.

 

It's somewhat similar to Linux, where there is no support for it but it can be done. I know there are a few good sites and forums out there for help with it.

 

Hmm. So the only way to find out is to just do it and hope nothing goes wrong?

 

You will need a modified kernel to get it to run a stock Clevo BIOS or it will just reboot when it goes to look for the register Clevo disables. Honestly getting it to run properly on a laptop is next to impossible. On my desktop all I had to do was install, attach an external monitor and install the Nvidia alternative drivers to get my 780 Ti working and I was done but on my P377SM-A? I threw in the towel. I couldn't get the 880Ms or 980Ms working, Wi-Fi didn't work correctly, sound stuttered and crackled, and it was just too unusable without hardware support for Nvidia. I was one of the original developers when we got the x86 developer leak and Apple has pulled so much out of the OS to try to block it working on non-Apple machines that it really is just not worth the hassle anymore unless you build a desktop that is made with total hardware support in mind.

 

Sweet. That is something I did not know. However, many people have said that Clover makes hackintoshing way easier than it was in the past - what d'you think? Sure, the kernel looking for the register is a hassle, but otherwise the hackintosh scene seems to be booming.

 

People weren't around back in the day then... Once I figured out how to disassemble the pkg files in the image, unpack and repack mkexts, lots of TransMac to edit the ISOs, PlayStation patcher for incremental patches so people didn't have to download all over again, etc, we just needed maxxuss to provide us with the kernel and it took me about 150 DVDs and I killed two burners before I figured it out. From there I taught everyone else how to do it and it was just a matter of adding your device IDs to the kext files like when 3D acceleration was finally a possibility. Seriously, it used to be very easy back in the day because all you needed was the right kernel (AMD or Intel) and a supported IDE chipset really. Then apple implemented their don't steal mac os garbage then SSE requirements to break AMD and older Intel processors then HPET timers then registers... All while breaking support in mach_kernel for older kexts which meant they had to be readded (the ATA and PS/2 kexts especially plus the Azalia audio almost always had to be patched) with some of them not working at all, they messed with the power management kext to the point a lot of systems wouldn't work with the stock one, then a modified ACPI platform kext and now you need Clover because OS X has to be tricked with a second UEFI boot. Clover is not the easiest thing to work with. They also removed MBR support from the installer at some point which had to be put back in... It seriously is an entirely different landscape than it was before. Not to mention that last I checked, getting Mavericks and above required an already working install of Leopard or Snow Leopard... I haven't checked the landscape lately but I doubt it's gotten any better on laptops. After Tiger, laptop support was mostly a miss. All the work I did for the ISO to boot and install was a fun project but OS X was really just a hobby for me and I went back to Windows. If I have to do anything that involves a Mac I find a way around it like TransMac, Mac Drive, or if I have to, a virtual machine.

Here's a pretty good overview of laptops and OS X

http://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/laptop-compatibility.106791/

Here's an epic saga from a P750DM-G

http://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/s...00k-intel-z170-nvidia-980m-4k-display.178065/

In the end he got it running but it took a lot of work.

 

Wow. Hmm. I may have rethink of my future plans then; my plan was to replace my Q6600 rig with my NP8170 once I can get the new Pascal (and maybe Kaby Lake?) laptops.

The Q6600 rig is supposedly my spare rig and my Hackintosh setup too.

 

I still have my q6600 Bad Axe 2 build that even had a custom BIOS to show as a mac pro to OS X myself. Haven't used it in ages but it's still around lol.

Every time there is a processor architecture change, there are always hiccups. Who knows if Kaby Lake will even work? You'll have to check the hardware against the list of working hardware basically.

 

The Kaby Lake + Pascal laptop is supposedly my main and thus non-Mac setup actually

But yes, I did check the list; last time I saw Haswell was in but not Skylake

 

yes it is possible, the some clevo model's has a possibility to use OsX, my p177sm is running on 95% fine on ElCapitan, but default intel Wi-fi is not supported by OsX and it need to replaced on Broadcom wi-fi. My hackintosh spec:
i7-4700MQ
32gb crucial RAM
480 sandisk extreme + 1TB hitachi travelstar
intel 4600 + radeon 8970m
of course you need to patch you DSDT for run and use OsX without problems.

 

@Prema BIOS for the P870DM-G has some special features specifically designed for OS X support. You should ask him about them.

 

Too bad NP8170 has no Prema support yet; maybe that would have helped?

 

If you cannot run it as a Hackintosh, you can always run OSX as a VM.

A couple of links for help figuring out how:

http://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/mac-software/how-run-os-x-on-pc-3632329/
http://lifehacker.com/5938332/how-to-run-mac-os-x-on-any-windows-pc-using-virtualbox

I have a OSX VM on my system.

 

What's the specs of your system?

 

I first did with one that is similar to the one you have but had 16 GB of RAM instead of 8. I had the VM using 8GB RAM. (System was a P151HM1)

 

OS X as a VM is pretty much pointless. The performance is terrible unlike VMs that have graphics acceleration support. It makes more sense to get OS X properly natively working and run Windows in a VM using Parallels under OS X.

 

I did have a OS X VM running from an ESXi server at one point to test all these. It was very unusually slow, but I was not sure if that's due to virtualisation or the server being slow (since it is just a XPS 420)

 

I was able to boot my VM faster than the guy's Mac laptop could about a year ago when I tried it side by side. I don't know what you are talking about being slow. Might be because my VM was on a SSD and was configured with 8GB RAM.

 

How's the general usage like? E.g. Photoshop, web browsing...

 

Boot is different than actual performance. The UI is heavily dependent on graphics acceleration so even things like scrolling in Safari aren't smooth. It's the same reason I don't run a native install on my desktop - without a DVI monitor to use to manually switch the output to HDMI after installing the nVidia Web drivers, I am stuck without any graphics acceleration at all.

 

It really depends on your hardware, what you have allocated to a VM and many other features such as what is installed, what extensions are used, etc. As for acceleration, check out this thread - http://superuser.com/questions/779070/use-nvidia-gpu-from-virtualbox It worked for mine. Says for PCI Bus but you can get it to work with MXM video but takes some doing.

I have been a certified Apple tech since 2000 and have a lot of experience "tweaking" their systems for maximum performance. These can be applied to virtual machines too.

 

Since when does VirtualBox have acceleration in OS X guests? It's not like you're revealing your actual video card to the OS and even if you did, without the use of Clover to fake EFI strings, OS X wouldn't use it. It's just like people who wonder why their dedicated graphics don't work when their hackintosh shows up as anything but a Mac Pro. Apple has made it really difficult for the OS to run well in VMs whereas it used to run quite well.

 

Seeing how I managed to successfully get Hackintosh running in my XPS 420 (with El Capitan!), I decided to give this project a shot...

...and got stopped already at the install process. The final nail on the coffin for this project is that there is no supporting kext for the JMircron ethernet port.

So yeah, Hackintoshes on laptops aren't as easy as what you all think...

 

Newer laptops have Ethernet from the Intel PCH, aka it's natively supported on OS X.

 

But the Ethernet ports are still by other manufacturers, right?

 

Are you talking about the physical jack? That shouldn't matter to the OS, only the controller.

 

Exactly.

 

Hmm. I am not sure if my laptop counts though seeing how many people are still unable to use the Ethernet port due to it not being recognised by OS X natively.

 

@darkarn - You have a P170HM, right? Didn't you say you have a JMicron controller? That could be the crux. Intel controllers should be recognized.

 

Yeah, I have a XPS 420 that uses Intel onboard NIC, it was recognised immediately.

For the NP8170, I can't move past the install screen and also have seen forum posts in other forums showing that even after installing OS X successfully, there are such issues like the JMicron not being recognised.

Either way, I think I will like to put a hold on this for now but only for myself due to other concerns (e.g. finalising home server setup). Anyone here is free to discuss on their attempts in getting macOS to work in their Clevos!