Prasad's new Sager NP5793 ordered!!

Okay here I am, two months in after registering in this forum with over 1000 posts, and finally have ordered my first laptop!! I know I should have posted in one of the other threads, but I've made a number of friends and the like and some people have been tracking my activities as well, specially around the Sager and Clevo forum And I was TOO tempted to make a new thread... And finally this yet-new forum member has pulled the trigger on a new Sager NP5793.

The configuration is as follows :

The 320GB hard drive I'm getting installed myself.

Any comments ?
I'm SOO excited!! Are you ?!? lol

-Prasad.

 

I have preety much the same specs myself.
Except for the HDD I went with a diffrent aftermarket one.

 

Bravo!​

 

Congratz on new laptop! how much was it o.o?

 

Was the same as on the XoticPC site... just over $2500 for that config without the $289 UPS (with order tracking) shipping

 

More like 1000+ posts in 1.5 months. Hopefully the 5793 will keep you busy. lol

 

lol True that.... won't post prolly till I finish Crysis off....

 

lol.. Crysis? That won't take you very long. You're probably going to be gone for a day or so lol.

 

Nice one Prasad007 welcome to the club

dont forget the other great games out there, that are more than just eye candy

Unreal Tournament 3 looks and plays amazing........in fact I am getting all my friends hooked on it too, going to be online blowing things up yaaay.

and I am completely hooked on Team Fortress 2 now that I can play it without the graphics lag (and horrible red warning messages on screen) ruining my game
in fact now it runs ridiculously fast, I find its easier to aim, so I am scoring more ...... go figure

 

kool you finally ordered yours, i think i might go with the m15x if the price drops in the next 1-2 months if not i might still order it for the smart bay =]. i might come back to sager we'll see when the m860TU and m570TUs come out.

 

good luck, just don't drop it. or you lose your warranty.

 

Congrats on the purchase! Hope you enjoy it when it arrives [and I'm sure you will!]

What are you going to do with the hard drive that comes with it? Can I have it?

 

Great spec. Gaming on that notebook is a real treat. Just don't forget to eat and sleep, lol.

 

about time Prasad! grats on your purchase!

 

I have the same exact specs (except different Hard Drive). Let me just say that you are going to love this notebook!! It is blazingly fast and powerful...and wait till you feel the sturdy build quality. The screen is also one of the most beautiful I've ever seen on a notebook. I have my Crysis settings on high at 1400x900 Res. and have excellent framerates. Congratulations!

 

gratz nice pick... gaaa i wish i could do the same but batterylife is holding me back <_> literally hot m15x it is i think .

 

hi guys/girls,

since I was disapointed by Alienware I am now looking for alternatives to the m15x. And clearly the clevo-barebones with 8800m GTX are one option.

I have a small question which I couldn`t sort out via the search function:

The NP 5793 has the Intel PM965 chipset right? And if I am not mistaken all chipsets of this familiy have also the X3100 onboard graphics, right? Might there a way to utilize the onboerd chip via bios settings like it is the case with the the AW m15x???

If my theory is right the option is there, but nobody figured out how to utilize this jet?

Any thoughts/help is very much appreciated...

Paendrag

 

Hay, I remember how <s>eskited</s> exited I was when I got my Clevo like a year and a half ago. It's still an amazing <s>little</s> big laptop, and I love it a lot. Battery is dead, but who cares - it's a desktop anyway. I think this will keep chugging on for 2 more years .

So, Prasad - be proud of that baby you got there .

 

Grats Prasad!! Bout time! Any word on the skin/graphics we were talking about?

 

lol Let's see... I'm a slow and careful gamer... for some reason, I like perfection.. :\

I already have UT3 Playing currently with my desktop on 6800GS.. Plays quiet well actually! Never really heard of TF2, will try it Thanks!

Best of luck on your decision (either way), mate!

lol I'll remember that Dex

Thanks!
I need the hard drive because I won't (if not needed) be carrying an external drive, and need it to store all my backups, etc. etc...

I actually fear that happening... won't blame myself for the first couple of days though..

Thank you!

Thank you heathkidd!

Something to be proud of, indeed!

And finally, Nawtheph... we started off on the same ground in this forum as far as Clevo and XoticPC goes, I think. And finally I placed my order... now your turn. Read PM. And thanks!

 

@Paendrag

whether the chipset includes the graphics core depends on the version

Clevo/Kapok Computer Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960
ICH8M-E Interface controller
is the chipset Sisoft Sandra identifies

I will look through the bios and if I spot anything will let you know

 

Thanks eleron!!

 

Congratulations. Great configuration!

 

And feed the kids. :laugh:

 

Nice configuration

It's a really powerfull lappy you get there

Just hope you can live through the wait

 

Feed them to what...?

 

@BOFH1971

Thank you very much. According to Intels Website The Intel PM965 Express chipset-family feature all the X3100 onboard graphics. Was just curious wheather you possibly could switch to the onboard graphics via bios-setting. But I guess Sager would promote that feature rather loudly if it was possible...

@Prasad

And yes, congratulations on your purchase!

Paendrag

 

Thanks Fade to Black!

lol I'm 18

Thanks man, I'm sure I can handle it till the laptop arrives, but not afterwards!

Thank you!

 

True Paendrag , I suppose however that the motherboard manufacturers add and remove components as necesary, so there is probably some empty solder space where the various chips would go that enable the graphics core on the northbridge

I see motherboards all the time with pinouts/chips missing where the next board up has extra funcionality, but they are all based on a reference design.

 

Probably the only way to know for sure is for someone to crack open their Clevo and inspect the motherboard to see if the integrated graphics chips are installed or not. Alternatively, I suppose one could check in the BIOS to see what sort of graphics options there are. Finally, one could call up Sager's tech people and ask.

The integrated graphics may be there, but since the sine qua non of these systems is the dedicated graphics, it may simply be that no one's ever thought to check because integrated graphics is sort of ... irrelevant. Sort of like buying a Ferarri with a Toyota four cylinder engine.

 

LOL a ferrari with a toyota 4 cyl in there would still get adoring looks as you cruised around town

I went into the bios, but need to dig out advanced screens as the ones provided on my machine dont do much
(I was also looking to see if there was a secondary SATA setup, maybe even raid possibilities, but thats another project )

the machine thinks its got 8 usb's which is interesting, must be some pinouts in there somewhere or, a bunch of stuff is plugged in internally

 

@ BOFH1971

Thanks for checking the bios. Let me guess. There was no option to switch from dedicated graphics to the onboard chipset

@Shyster1

Well the interesting thing with the onbord option is its energy efficiancy. To stay with your example: The Ferrari engine is eating easly 25 liters on 100km while the Toyota engine is more in the regions of 5 Liters on 100km.

I had my eye on the Alienware m15x for a long time (even ordered one but canceled in the end...) and one of its excellent features was the possibility to switch to integrated graphics for extended portability/ minimized power-consumption, making this power-house nb also portable. Which can`t be said of other performance notebooks. They are usually chained to the wall via power-cable.

Paendrag

 

I would imagine that setting up that sort of functionality would require special modifications to the GPU and the motherboard to, in effect, "unplug" the GPU when you want to switch to integrated graphics - it may also require that a custom motherboard be built that carries both integrated graphics and a dedicated GPU. I very much doubt that you're going to be able to do the same with a standard Clevo motherboard.

Personally, I would be rather wary of a system like that because, to me, it suggests _Dell's proprietarism fetish taken to the extreme - i.e., every piece on that notebook, with the exception of the hdd and the SODIMMs, perhaps , will be a custom-made _Dell-only piece. I've had enough of trying to work around _Dell's issues with proprietary parts on two older _Dell desktops so far, and I'm fed to the teeth with it.

 

I know what you mean shyster, ever tried to put a new hard-disk into an Nec/Packard Bell pc? with tattoo'ed hdd bios! BOOOO!

I think from what I have read, they use a custom bios.
a lot of desktop motherboards with onboard graphics have a selectable option for which is the primary display adapter. of course on one of those you have to pysically unplug the monitor from the graphics card and plug it into the motherboard vga output.

now some clever switching could bring this about in a laptop, so its probably not THAT proprietary, apart from the monitor switching

 

So when`s the expected delivery? I want a full review, Eleron911 style (with all hickups and class lines)...

 

To date I haven't had to deal with a tattoo'ed hdd, but just trying to figure out how to replace the hdd in this pokey lil vaio was a royal pain - Sony's "policy" is a flat - the hdd in this model cannot be upgraded - which is baloney; once I figured it out myself, I took great pleasure in emailing detailed instructions how to do it to all the Sony "techs" I had tried to get help from. Of course, the next pain was working around the 137GB hdd limit Sony stuck in the BIOS - I finally managed to trick my way around it. I am totally fed up with this sort of totally unnecessary proprietariness, which is one big reason why I am interested in getting a Clevo - compared to a Sony, it's off-the-shelf.

It would be interesting to find out if the motherboards in these systems come with live integrated graphics as well as the dedicated graphics - if they're there, then there is probably a way to gerrymander a software work-around even if the BIOS locks them out.

 

@Shyster1

You seem to be quite proficient in these hardware matters. If you could get the integrated graphics to work it would mean a great plus to the commuity...

But my guess is that it will not be easy to make it work. Alienware makes a big selling point out of this feature...

Paendrag

 

It hasn't shipped yet... But I'll keep ya'll informed Actually, there was a 3 day bank holiday here, and I'll be wire transferring today (in a couple of hours), so then they start burn in and stuff.. then ship. However, no matter HOW MUCH I wanted to do an unboxing video and review, I doubt I'd make it, considering I'll spend a week looking at the laptop, then next week playing with it, then Crysis, etc etc..

 

well shyster1 I take my hat off to you, lke me you are not to be told you can't do something

I have said before on other threads, when my warranty is about out, I will probably do a complete strip down (maybe before lol, I usually can't resist)

if I do, I will take pics and get them up with pointers to whats what

 

I am very grateful for the compliment; that's basically what I ended up doing with this vaio - by now I think I could strip the thing down and put it back together in my sleep.

 

You know,we have a joke here in my country.
A german man came to a peasant and gave him a radio. So the peasant takes the crazy contraption,disassembles it,looks at all the parts,reassembles it,and still has enough pieces to build another radio.
Be careful,that`s how clones are born :twitcy:

 

hang on eleron911 , all our machines are clones anyway...........and bill gates stole the GUI...........so we are on cloned IBM equipment using a stolen GUI.

I wish I had asked my parents for microsoft shares in the 80's

oh and Shyster1 I know taking Vaio's apart isnt easy, although the rubbish machines I took apart were to try and find out why the darn things were so slow, E-101 or something they were back in win98/2000 days
for some reason both machines we bought at work, did not perform anywhere near the specs. but they were he cheap ones

and I have found with Sony that if you buy their budget components you get very cheap parts. but if you spend a decent amount you get decent kit

 

I've ordered Sagers in the past, but recently ordered a Dell Inspiron E1505. Actually as recent as last September and am not happy with its performance at all. It's fine for typical things, but not for the graphic's I've recently gotten into. So!! I ordered a NP5793 a couple of days ago! Here are my specs

- Chassis Color: Orange Trim
- Display: 17" Wide Viewing Angles WUXGA LCD with Super Glossy Surface (1920 x 1200)
- Processor: 45nm Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T9300 / 6MB L2 Cache, 2.50GHz, 800MHz FSB
- Video & Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce 8800M GTX Graphics with 512MB DDR3 Video Memory
- Operating System: Genuine MS Windows® VISTA ULTIMATE 32/64-Bit Edition
- Memory: 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz (2 X 2048MB)
- Primary Hard Disk Drive: 200GB 7200rpm SATA 300 Hard Drive
- Optical Drive: 8X DVD±R/RW/4X +DL Super-Multi Drive & Software
- Wireless Network Card: Intel PRO/Wireless 4965AGN - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module
- Bluetooth: Internal Bluetooth Module
- Intel Robson Technology: Intel 1GB TurboMemory Module

I'm pretty excited! Giddy actually! I was a little bummed though. I wanted the integrated TV tuner, but I realized with the TurboMemory it's not available. I guess they take up the same slot. So, the Tuner isn't as important to me and I already have a USB HD Tuner that I'll use.

I was happy with my old Sager, and especially with their customer support, I have no doubts I'll be equally happy with this one!

Love the forum by the way..

E

 

what the......?????? Akakios what on earth are you bothering with Turbo Memory for?
I would check out some reviews of what happens with turbomem because some people report performance decreases, especially as the data passes over the rather slow usb2 bus!!!!

 

Yeah... might as well cancel the order and re-order with the TV tuner that you wanted instead

 

are there any TV tuners that have built in antena's instead of the giant arials as i dont like them and dont see the point of them, you wouldnt want to carry that around with you.

im ordereing mine hopfully within the next month

comes with

1920 x 1200 TFT Screen
Intel Core 2 Duo Mobile T9300 6MB Cache Dual Core Processor 2 x 2.5GHz
4GB DDR2 667MHz Memory
160GB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive
Blu Ray Reader DVD/RW Multi Burner
Nvidia 8800M GTX 512mb PCI Express Graphics

 

@Shyster,

"I am totally fed up with this sort of totally unnecessary proprietariness, which is one big reason why I am interested in getting a Clevo - compared to a Sony, it's off-the-shelf.

I would never anything from Sony.

Trance

 

GAH!! Are you serious!? I've heard nothing but good stuff about the turbomem!

So I'm browsing the forum, see a thread about someones 5793 crashing after 9 days. I read it and see how awesome the customer service is at Xoticpc. I can't complain about Sager at all mind you. So I check out the site and price one up there and notice that I can still get the turbomem and the tv tuner. Hmm. I'm not sure what to do now! I've already ordered it direct from Sager but the charge hasn't posted to my account yet and I'm in need of the notebook asap. Crap!

 

Turbo Memory is useless if you have at least 2 gb of RAM.