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    Prema bios gpu fan problem

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Vernoux, Feb 15, 2019.

  1. Vernoux

    Vernoux Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi guys! Maybe someone can share their thoughts or even help me with a problem.
    After flashing prema bios from my reseller (dream machines) I ran into a problem with gpu fan. It simply does not rise up at all on any temperature. In ccc gpu temperature reads 40C on any load, while hwinfo or afterburner shows the real numbers. This is so weird because Obsidian’s fan control works absolutely fine with both fans and it sees both cpu and gpu temperatures like hw/afterburner. I think this is not software related problem because this behavior absolutely identical on clean setup without any controling software (neither fan control nor ccc). System thinks that temperature at 40 all the time :) Something wrong in EC apparently. Just want to install Linux in dual boot, but i am afraid that gpu will burn to death without software fan control. Allready tried to re-flash prema bios/ec in clean system with the same result.
    Maybe someone encountered this problem before or maybe @Prema can help me with that? Allready asked my resseler but still waiting for an answer (they are so slow lately).
    If someone interested in 9900k temperatures in p775 feel free to ask. I will gladly share all my test results based on real work in houdini and other vfx related software (which requires much more stability than any overclocking “benchmarks”)
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  2. hexum23

    hexum23 Notebook Evangelist

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    Bumping this thread. I’m on Prema Bios from HIDEvolution. I’ve noticed this problem too. The fans usually work fine, but there have been a few times where the fans just don’t ramp up. I’ll be in a game and FPS drop drastically from thermal throttling. Opening up Obsidian Fan Control fixes things. Not sure why they stop working randomly. Only common thread between me and OP are Prema Bios and Obsidian Tools.
     
  3. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Considering its customised firmware you are FAR better off speaking to your reseller about support.
     
  4. Vernoux

    Vernoux Notebook Enthusiast

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    Prema contacted me on Friday and said that for some reason Dream Machines sent me an outdated version with this knowing bug and that I need to make a request for a remote flashing from them. They have not yet replied to any of my letters regarding this topic. I called them yesterday, they said they saw my emails and will answer tomorrow ... they did not answer and I called again... this time they assured me they were waiting for a new version from Prema. I absolutely do not understand what is happening, but communication with them is completely broken. Despite the fact that I spent on the laptop 4k euros with an extended three-year warranty just two months ago.
    Does anyone know, can I safely roll back to stock bios from Prema ? In theory, this is possible, but only if I install a more recent version from Clevo, correct? But bad luck, I do not know on which stock version my build from Prema is based :)
    Current stock versions 1.07.15TDES bios and 1.07.10 EC for my serial on DM website. while Prema’s version 1.07.DM and 1.07.DM2. Because of this “dm” I can’t identify my current version on the system
     
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  5. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    I would avoid rolling back.
     
  6. Vernoux

    Vernoux Notebook Enthusiast

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    Prema fixed it for me :) He is such a wonderful person! Now I can finally install my lovely Linux Mint
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Good news :), odd on the reseller.
     
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  8. Vasudev

    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    If you find or get into a roadblock whilst installing and setting up Linux ask or tag @Dennismungai
     
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  9. hissy

    hissy Notebook Consultant

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    Hello here! Here's newbie with need of tech advice.
    Recently bought an P775 from Dream Machines (they are closest reseller from here), and...
    Seems I have this same problem, with differences that it's fresh RTX upgraded model now (P775TM1-G with RTX 2070, they market it as RX2070-17), and now they aren't listed in Prema Partners. They were when I first contacted them, and they still offer Prema bios option.

    Firmware versions installed are the same 1.07.DM and 1.07.DM2 dated by end of 2018, so i assume they even weren't meant to be in RTX model.

    GPU fan *sometimes* randomly works as intended, but more often it doesnt. Any third-party fan controlling software also is seeing gpu temp as 40C, and most of the bios setting utility seem to behave wrong (i can't change almost anything there without bricking it, while XTU works mostly fine) Also sometimes I seen the GPU hitting power limit at Max-Q's clocks, but mostly at least that works as "intended".

    Tech support replied quickly, asked if i can flash the bios myself, and vanished for more than a week now, so now i'm searching for help elsewhere. Maybe, @Prema himself would be kind enough to help?
    (also i'd really, REALLY like to deal with that 115w power limit that i managed to miss before... Had naive hope to undervolt that thing to near-desktop performance, ehh)
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    It is the holidays at the moment, try calling them on Tuesday.
     
  11. hissy

    hissy Notebook Consultant

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    Didn't know about holidays. Well, tuesday's passed, still silence from them... When i poked them for purchase, they replied once and disappeared forever, ended up ordering custom build through unrelated local store. Reseller's reseller. And that email still sits there without reply.
    Somewhat disappointing service for such expensive things, to say the least.
    ...
    meanwhile. Is there demo version of Obsidian fan control, or something else of that type, to check if it works? RLECViewer also can't read GPU temp, and setting GPU fan there manually every time i need it is tedious.
     
  12. hissy

    hissy Notebook Consultant

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    And Prema came and fixed it within 5 minutes.
     
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  13. Chastity

    Chastity Company Representative

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    And thus did the Prophet, Blessed be the Name of @Prema and the Glory of His Wisdom, come amongst the unwashed code, and thus did He shine his Light upon the code, and it was healed.
     
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  14. berkut1

    berkut1 Newbie

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    Hello,

    I has been got from Dream Machine my Clevo p775tm1 with @Prema bios and I have the same issue.
    In Control Center the GPU temperature stuck on 40C.
    When I start some GPU stress test, the GPU temp can go to 90C and the GPU FAN starts only if CPU has more than 80C.
    There are some screenshots.
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    Thanks.
     
  15. hissy

    hissy Notebook Consultant

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    Oh, they still doing that?
    Bugged firmware, fastest solution will be to contact Prema here, but best at this point is probably return it, get your money back, buy from other reseller and spread as wide as possible about DM's customer "care"?
     
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    berkut1 Newbie

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    Unfortunately there are no another reseller (with Prema BIOS) closer. :( How do I have to contact to @Prema , just tagged him ?

    Thanks.
     
  17. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    That's the best way.
     
  18. NerezkovD

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    Hello, the same problem with Clevo p775tm1 from Dream Machine. In Control Center, it does not display the GPU temperature correctly, it shows 40 degrees all the time, while in HWiNFO it is correct, the GPU overheats in the load. Please help me figure out how to contact @Prema to solve the problem? I attach a few screenshots, thank you!

     
  19. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Your reseller should also be able to help you and provide an update.