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    Prone to "hang ups" when moving the laptop?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by daryldeal, Sep 18, 2011.

  1. daryldeal

    daryldeal Notebook Evangelist

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    Happened to me 3-4 times already, when i move my laptop while its turned on, all of a sudden it hangs. Is it really not advisable to move it while its turned on? or is there a proper way to carry it while on? any ideas?
     
  2. draxen

    draxen Notebook Consultant

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    Hmm this shouldn't be happening.
    You should be able to move your laptop without any problems.
    Are any error messages displayed or does windows just hang?
    Have you tried looking in the Windows event log for any error messages?
     
  3. daryldeal

    daryldeal Notebook Evangelist

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    ^no error messages, it just hangs basically, im not sure where to look at the event viewer?
     
  4. Bryanu

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    Well one of two things is happening.

    Either something is flexing a tad and causes the hang OR its getting hot.

    I learned this the hard way on one.

    If its turned on and I hold it vertical it overheats. This is because the heatsinks have some water in them and cant properly cool if you have it tipped one way. So if its fully on would hold it the same way it sits on the desk, with lid shut of course.

    Otherwise you can try putting it in sleep mode before moving it.

    But in my case it didnt just overheat it turned itself off.

    Otherwise its something flexing and causing a short or circuit break and thus the freeze.

    For how great these laptops are and much I love them they have some issues that make them seem cheap to me. Never had to be picky about moving a laptop, never had a laptop turn off on its own unless its overheat (I have had mine do it just booting to windows before after a driver crash and was not heat as was like 50c at time it turned off).

    I wish cleveo would put a little more care into them is all. They are good machines but because they sell so many of them due to different places re-branding them and what not they pump out a lot and quality goes down a tad.
     
  5. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    am i missing something here
    water and laptops dont mix full stop.

    have you tried taking the baseplate of and making sure the ram and hard drive are seated correctly. while your in there you could clean the fans out as well
     
  6. Bryanu

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    I have reproduced this on two different NP8150's. Turn them on, start a temp monitor program and tip them with the CDrom facing down and what what happens. :p

    Almost all modern day notebook heatsinks have liquid in them now, that is how they cool. The liquid turns to steam and moves to the fan side, which cools it and causes it to run back to the device side.

    If you tip the laptop, to much of the liquid goes to one side cause it to not properly cool.
     
  7. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    I believe he may be referring to the liquid in the heat pipe. I've never heard of it being an issue for carrying.

    Heat pipe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    To OP: If you're moving the laptop around, I'd recommend keeping it flat the way it sits on the desk to minimize issues. If you're still having hangups, it's likely one of 2 things: 1) the hard drive is getting bumped around which causes issues or 2) something is loose (RAM, GPU, CPU, etc).
     
  8. HTWingNut

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    My guess is also something loose. And the fluid/gas in the heatpipe won't be affected by movement. It's fully sealed, and movement, unless you spin it in a circle won't affect it.
     
  9. Bryanu

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    I only mention the liquid because think of how it works.

    If the entire design is based on some going to the component, getting super hot and turning to steam and transferring to the fan which turns it back to liquid which runs it back to the component, think about what happens if no liquid is on the component side because the way you are holding the laptop for example causes it all to be on the fan side. The component wont cool properly, same holds true other way. If all the water is forced to the component, it may be to much to turn into steam fast enough to get to the other side to cool, thus not cool fast enough.
     
  10. rpg711

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    Heat pipes use capillary action to convey the liquid back and forth... they can't be an issue.
     
  11. HTWingNut

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    Right, it's self contained and assuming vacuum sealed so under some pressure. It would take significant movements to affect it. It won't just slosh around. Fill a cup up with water, eliminate any air, seal it, and you get the point. No sloshing, minimal fluid movement except with extreme movements.