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    Q9550 not running at full clock.

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Arv_Reloaded, Mar 30, 2009.

  1. Arv_Reloaded

    Arv_Reloaded Notebook Enthusiast

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    I recently added a Q9550 to sager 9260 (primitive without motherboard revision).

    I updated the bios to 22 and firmware to 13 version and installed the processor.
    The processor is recognised and i see a definite performance increase but it is running at max clock of 2260 MHZ instead of 2800 MHZ.

    The max fsb of cpu stays at 266 (266 * 8.5).

    SisSandra clearly says my motherboard is capable of 1600 fsb. Please help me to fix this.
     
  2. ARGH

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    i am not exactly sure but i believe you had to swap the motherboard with a newer version in order to support the quad cores due to cpu socket thermal problems. i don't think a bios update alone would do.
     
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    did you make sure to be running it at Max Performance and not at Power Saver mode?

    also you can force full clock speeds with programs like RMclock.

    But ARGH is probably right, since the first D901C motherboard revision can handle Q6600 and Q6700's out of the box with BIOS updates... no word on 45nm quad-core CPUs tested on them yet.
     
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    I stressed the cpu using super pi along with n number of programs. The max it goes is 2.2GHZ.

    But the quad is detected, temps are fine, performance is great even at 2.2 ghz.

    where can i see my exact bios version?
     
  5. GanGstaOne

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    ARGH he dosnt need new motherboard his mobo is the same revision like mine and mine is NP9261 buyed with two 8800M GTX + Q6700 i have try Q9550 and run without problems thats why the problem is not in the board many of you think that there is another board revision but from first D900C to last D901C (NP9260-9261-9262) all motherboards are the same
    a month ago i installed on NP9260 first get with one 7950GTX + X6800 my old cards two 8800M GTX + brand new Q9550 (the same CPU tested in my D901C)
    all upgrades working only with BIOS update
     
  6. ARGH

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    there was a physical modification with each motherboard revision, it was not just a bios update. i do not know what exactly was modified. if it was just a bios flash then sager and other resellers would have performed this service instead of swapping out the motherboard for those that wanted the upgrade.
     
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    (there was a physical modification with each motherboard revision)
    ok if this is truth why his motherboard revision is same like mine
    sager and all other tell you that you need new mobo because they want you to buy new laptop when new parts are released
    but if you dont want to buy hole laptop well the parts that you want + new mobo is good for them right :)
    when i tell sager what is my laptop and i give them my Serial Number they tell me that i have to get new motherboard
    because 9800M GTX cards will not run on mine after few calls and letters i tell them to give me the card and if they
    dont work i will not want my money but will buy mobo from them only then they give me the cards and you know what
    they work fine

    oo ya i have comapre 2 motherboards from NP9060 with one mine NP9261 with 2 from 9262 they are all the same in any way atleast
    all hardware info programs says that oo ya and all other test but what heck you all think that there is few mobo revision this is
    good for Clevo and all resellers and yes thay dont have interest of that :)
     
  8. ARGH

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    first check to see what motherboard version you have. i don't know where you purchased your laptop but maybe it was indeed modified by a professional reseller that knows his stuff or maybe you do in fact have the 9262 motherboard in there. i know eurocom offered to physically modify the 9260 to support the quad core before the motherboard revision was made official by clevo. sager and other resellers complained to clevo stating that they were at an unfair advantage because of this and clevo forced eurocom to stop doin the modifications.

    second, regarding a physical modification to each motherboard revision, here is the info on what happened when the 9261 went to 9262 version;

    basically, a chip on the mainboard was physically swapped out for another one that could read also EDID instead of just LVDS. the modification was needed because LVDS limited clevo from making software changes for compatibility, although i am not even sure what that ment, anyway.
     
  9. GanGstaOne

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    i dont know maybe this is truth but in every hardware info program the mobo are the same in anyway and how you can explain that my 8800M GTX + new Q9550 fit in 9260
     
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    i am curious to know your situation. hardware info programs won't tell you what model number clevo assigns to the motherboard revisions. they only put a little white sticker next to the memory slots to signal what version it is.

    you will want to open the service cover to check what revision motherboard you have. that's the first thing that needs to be done.

    also, where did you get your laptop?

    i have an "authentic" 9262 version motherboard, you have a 9261 as you claimed and the original poster has a 9260 so if the little white stickers are un-altered or not missing we can verify what version motherboards each of these versions carried.
     
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    GanGstaOne, you raise an interesting point regarding the Motherboards. I had my Laptop upgraded by Sager for the CPU and Video. It had 7950 GTX SLI when I purchased it. I inquired with them regarding the 9800 GTX upgrade and was told that I HAD to send the Laptop back for this upgrade also.

    Because of reading this thread, I looked at the Motherboard returned to me as a "pull". The Sticky Pads for the Video Cards are fresh, there is no witness of any material pulled off of these from use, and all of these pad areas are covered by pristine plastic protectors. Allot of effort went into restoring a pulled Motherboard OR this Motherboard was never used... I am a mechanical engineer by trade. I looked for clues indicating that the returned "pulled" Motherboard had been used. I don't see anything that would indicate that screws had been inserted into any of the mounting taps. There are no shine witness markings anywhere on this motherboard from parts installed or from screws torqued in place.

    The revision on the returned Motherboard is 5.0A, but it is a sticker attached to a memory slot. The problem with stickers is that they can easily be changed. Normally you would expect some marking by the Factory on the Motherboard itself. I will check my Laptop when I get home today and see what the sticker indicates on it. is there any other marking that I should be looking for?

    Has there ever been a survey of Owner's to report what revision numbers are found on their Motherboards?
     
  12. ARGH

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    i am not sure which sticky pads you are refering to. are they the blue ones? you can take a picture and insert it into this thread. this board allows that and it would help out. these sticky pads are easily ripped apart when you attempt to remove the gpu / cpu. maybe sager simply attached brand new sticky pads in case you wanted to re-use the older motherboard since you get to keep the gpu's and motherboard from the swap program.
     
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    ARGH is this that you are talking for on the memory chip v6.1 ROHS
     
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    Yes, there are two rectangular pads per Video Card location. The surface of these is a bright grey, I know from other Laptops that as you touch or use these Pads, the surface darkens, similar to fresh Silly Putty or a Kneaded Eraser [used in graphics work] darks once they are used.

    Where is this service cover that you mention?
     
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    here is where the mobo version is located. you have to take out the fan for the ram and the top ram module. it is a white sticker on the ram slot itself.

    my mobo version is 6.2

    if yours is version 6.x i believe it is the code for 9262 version mobo. i know the orginal 9260 was version 5.0. what i am not sure is what code the 9261 recieved. i believe it was still a version 5.x, though.

    the service cover is the big cover underneath the laptop. i point to it in red.
     

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    The sticker on the "pulled" Motherboard is marked V5.0 ROHS

    Interesting is that the area in your picture that has chips and some date stickers is a black plastic rectangle on this Motherboard with a round manufacturing sticker that manually indicates June 07, which matches a red labeled June 07 sticker on the bottom side of this motherboard.

    BTW Argh, how do I go about inserting an image? When I select the Insert Image Icon, it requests a URL, rather than the location on the hard drive like Outlook Express does...
     
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    you can insert pictures with the paper clip icon when you post a reply (not a quick reply as this does not have the option) and it will allow you to attach a file from your computer to be uploaded to the server.

    i am confused with your statement. are you talking about my motherboard that has a black plastic sticker or your motherboard?
     
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    AlanP what do you tell us that your old motherboard is v5.0 and the new one is v5.0A right ?
     
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    Hopefully I got this right, there should be an attachment. I see the confusionas the quick replies are easy to generate, and this method of replying is buried. Real Strange...
     

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    OK, got the attachment, but the size is too small to see. Hopefully this attachment works. The old Motherboard image is attached. Notice that the area under the first memory is a flat plastic glued on pad, while on a proir posting, this same area has soldered chips....
     
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    Sorry, hopefully I got it this time!
     

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    Wow, attaching images on Outlook Express is SO MUCH easier...
     
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    The black pad is to stop any touching between the ram and the motherboard, in the previous persons picture, there was still a stick of ram in the bottom slot...
     
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    there are probably the same soldered chips underneath that black plastic. all notebooks use these black plastics. i think they are to guard against heat or something related to heat or general protection.
     
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    i am pretty sure thats it. i am too lazy to open the service back and take out the fan and ram sticks to check now but it is probably what it seems to be.
     
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    ok now the only thing to figure out is what version the 9261 was labeled as. if it is a version 5.x then gangsta purchased his laptop with the newer motherboard revision that supported the 8800m gtx cards. his laptop was probably labeled as 9261 due to the 7950gtx graphics cards it shipped.
     
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    theriko, you are right, there is a stick left in.
     
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    stuck in 266 mode?
    you can probably pin mod it to 333. (speculation of course)
    or i can sell you a qx6800 2.93@1066/266
     
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    ARGH: my D901C is buyed with one 8800M GTX + Q6700 before SLI was available then i upgrade to SLI and then i upgrade to 9800M GTX SLI my board number like i said is v6.1 ROHS i think that this is 9261
    AlanP: tell us what is your new mobo version
     
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    then you had the 9262 not 9261. 9261 could not support the 8800m gtx, only version 6.x motherboards. 9261 was the version that could support quad core. 9262 was the version that could support quad core and 8800m / 9800m cards.
     
  31. GanGstaOne

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    well good for me then :) i assume my board is one of the first 9262 because is buyed when first came out 8800M GTX and is version 6.1 but your is 6.2 wow they are so identical in every info program and in the same time so different :)