Quadro P5000 with Clevo P150SM-A (LVDS)

Maybe it's interesting for some Clevo users.
I have installed for a colleague, a Quadro P5000 in his Clevo P150SM-A (LVDS), runs without problems.
Operating system: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit under UEFI
Only the driver had to be modified.
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Glorious!

 

Very cool setup

The optimus machines don't mind LVDS due to the IGP controlling all the video outs.

 

Nice! Almost like a 1070 and with a TDP of 100W. Good pick!

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Must have cost you a fortune though...?

 

No, it has nothing to do with that. It's actually because of a converter (PS8625) that translates eDP signals to LVDS. This is the reason why LVDS Alienware notebooks cannot use pascal card, they lack the converter despite using optimus.

@ Hardcorecustom:

Interesting layout, the card has the standard layout of the maxwell series as it seems, which is quite good to know. However the chip still seems flat (like ohter pascal chips), did you solder a shim to the heatsink? Because if the card is anything like the other pascal cards, then the contact to the chip is going to be terrible, so will the temps be.

 

How does what you said have anything to do with what I said?

The SM series has all video outputs on the IGP:



So the requirements of the dGPU for video outputs is not a factor. All it needs to do is power up when told to and processes remote rendering requests from the IGP.

Now for other models there may be other considerations but certainly not for the one this thread is about.

 

thinking about this upgrade as well for my P751DM Have you guys tested the P5000 in the DM series?

Also, do P5000 cards from different vendors (Clevo, MSI, HP, Dell) differ in a way that make any of them incompatible with machines from differing brands?

Any benchmark results would be much appreciated!

 

http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/quadro_p5000/

 

Maybe a dumb question, i am thinking about getting the P5000 myselv for a p150sm, but what does LVDS mean? and do i need it to get P5000 to work?

 

See my post 3 and my diagram. In this machine the dedicated card does not do any display output work.

 

I guess its the same for mine, so it should work!

 

So to upgrade gtx 1060 from m290x, doenst matter if my display is eDP or lvds? Just plug and play, reapply thermal path, clean and modded drivers and BIOS?

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Stop and think for a second. Why would the dedicated GPU care what is plugged into the IGP? It has no vision on that connection.

Mostly with these machines you just have to be careful of small mods needed for the heatsink to fit the new card. VRM contact is very important.

 

What card was on the machine before the p5000?. My gtx 780m looks very like the p5000. But sure i need to move the coolingpads

 

The p5000m is related to the 1070. Use a overlay tool to compare, do long as they are played out the same thermal pad adjustments can deal with small height differences.

 

What card was in the p150sm-a before upgrading?

 

It could be a variety of cards.

 

iirc it was around the 700M gpu era.

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Thanks, then it def should work and with the same fan the p5000 does not look anything like 1070, its very like 1060 and gtx 780m .

 

yep thats the good thing about quadro cards, they follow the same component layout on the standard mxm pcb

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Does anyone know if the Dell/HP Quadro will work with these machines?

 

those are the only ones in standard mxm format, so the OP most likely used one of those

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Both are pretty similar (dell/hp) due to that standard design too. So you can try cross flashing them.

 

Ah ok, that's what I thought. The only concern I have about trying it in my P750DM-G is from a thread where someone tried it on a p177sm-a and got an error 43. I suppose it's also possible that he or she didn't do everything in the right order, or forgot to do something. I also wonder how the P4000 firmware differs between the dell and hp platforms. Maybe the hp p4000 works with clevo, but the dell version doesn't.

I just need to make a decision and go for it, thank you for the help.

 

The optimus machines do tend to have more issues with quadro cards it's true, but bios version and vbios interaction can be very different.

 

Здравствуйте! Не могли бы вы поделиться биосом 86.04.3а.00.15, Quadro P5000? Я не могу найти его нигде для загрузки!

 

Might be worth asking on the Dell subforum.

 

So it will work on P170sm, right....Sorry the question, but sinve the card costs about 1000 dollars, I have to make sure about the investment, of someone could help me clarify. My laptop has an i7-4700mq and a Quadro k5100m and PremaBios. Thanks for your time.

 

16GB of VRAM? That is super cool.

 

For some 3d rendering tasks it can hugely help, less so for gaming

 

It's nice to see these powerfull card working on our old laptop but i wonder if a 4th gen Intel CPU can be a bottleneck for this kind of GPU. I was thinking a 980m was on par with it, and anything more powerfool begin to be overkill. It's nice too see the limited TDP too, "only" 100W!

 

Generally speaking no, back in my time at OCN it was considered that the 1070 desktop was the upper limit of a 2500k @ 4.5Ghz and higher speed RAM.

I ran a 4930mx @ 4.2 with 32GB 2133MhzCL11 and a GTX 1070 @ 120w and I didnt have any overt issues of a bottleneck.

This is generally speaking of course.

 

Depends on the game and threading along with resolution.

 

@TheReciever and @Meaker@Sager you're both right and generally speaking gaming tend to be more intensive on the GPU and even with a "low" CPU. What's really good with technology evolution is that you can clearly see a power hungry GPU (like the 980 mobile, the desktop variant with 2k+ core) and the next gen, a GPU even more powerfull with a lower TDP (GTX 1060 and 1070 mobile for exemple).
I'm stopping off topic but it clearly make me think of trying a 1060 or 1070 MXM some day

 

I think you will still have room for improvement with GPU jumps for a bit. Especially towards 1440p.

 

My 4980hq might work in the P150/157SM so that could be interesting little project too...

Never really got to see how it performs at anything aggressive like 4.0Ghz+ since my t440p only handles up to 3.8Ghz intermittently

 

@TheReciever if i'm not wrong the 4980hq is soldered and the p150/157Sm have socket, will you unsolder the socket and found a way to make proper contact with the heatsink? Wow that seems creazy to me but not impossible.

 

There was a period where you could purchase the 4980hq and other CPU's of that product family with an rPGA "adapter" of sorts from suppliers in China, likely salvaged from dead macbook pros and resold. These were sold in both rPGA and also LGA and people have used them in both laptops and desktops. I have one as I wanted to use it with my Alienware 17 R1 but sadly it wouldnt post, at the time I thought maybe it was DOA, but I have it running in my t440p that I use everyday.

Maybe I can put up my AW 13 R3 as a trade for one of these systems I guess it depends on the pricing of the GPU when ever I am seriously considering this.

 

Wow i learnt something! Remember me the old time where there was adaptors for Pentium III / Slot1. I think we're a bit off topic so i'll search to see what it looks like

 

I recall seeing A p750zm or P770ZM with the LGA version of the 4980hq working, also the t440p and m6800 have been seen with this chip installed in the wild. Its definitely not officially supported of course, basically a case by case basis to see if it will work.

I had a P157SM-A but my brother stole it, so sadly I cant test.

 

Yes, with bga to LGA adaptors because the silicon is the same. Mounting is tricky though.

 

I did a search and see what it looks like now. There is an IHS in these CPU? Custom made i suppose?
Compatibility can depend a lot of think, if i think well CPU microcode must be present and as @Meaker@Sager say mounting is another problem.
But i don't see why the CPU is interesting, maybe because of the different iGPU? Hum... I'll search more at work today!

 

128MB L4 cache.

IHS?

The mounting is can be an issue as stated before there is an adapter to make these work in rPGA or LGA scenarios, an adapter means additional height, even if not too much in some systems there is more sensitivity to Z height on a cpu heatsink.

 

No IHS on mobile CPUs.

 

Hum i see, this CPu was used with LGA1150 adaptor too that's why i found pictures of it with a IHS. I find it strange too, a mobile CPU with IHS, thank for clarifying @Meaker@Sager . If i understand well, this 128Mo L4 cache is mainly used as iGPU vRAM?
I think my 4800mq is sufficient with 3.9Ghz. I had a Prema BIOS and stupidly flashed a stock bios without doing a backup. Now i'm stuck with 1333Mhz RAM and 2T timing... Bah, it's still working fine this way!

 

It can be, or it can be used as 128MB L4 Cache.

 

128MB EDRAM so slower than other caches but faster than Ram? Can be good for some specific computing task?

 

Its faster than any DDR3 based system ram to the best of my knowledge. I remember reading that 4000Mhz DDR4 came close or matched it but its been a while since I looked into it.

From my limited understanding it acts as a great buffer between the CPU and system RAM

 

Depends on the generation on how flexible the cache is.