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    Question about 95% gamut screen

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by thailandgod, Jun 5, 2012.

  1. thailandgod

    thailandgod Notebook Consultant

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    I wonder if it is necessary for calibration on my 95% gamut screen because I think the laptop screen is too saturated for me. Is calibration too expensive?
     
  2. jaug1337

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    Well some reseller include it freely, some want a prize for it.

    I would imagine if you were to talk to your reseller they would calibrate it for you for a price or you could talk to another reseller that might be able to do that for you :)
    - it's quite expensive if you want to do it yourself as the software and tool is of high quality (depending on the level of calibration ofc, it just get more and more expensive)
     
  3. KCETech1

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  4. thailandgod

    thailandgod Notebook Consultant

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    in my opinion yes. especially if you need accurate colors for work etc. I use the pro version on my workstations
     
  6. Support.3@XOTIC PC

    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    A calibrated screen does look nicer. If you have a lot of screens you can do like other notebooks or desktops the consider purchasing the Spyder 4. You can even use it for future computers.
     
  7. thailandgod

    thailandgod Notebook Consultant

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    sorry but is calibration a necessary for 95% gamut screen?
     
  8. KCETech1

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    To me any screen over 75% should be calibrated. but i need accuracy in my work
     
  9. thailandgod

    thailandgod Notebook Consultant

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    I mean the screen right now is kinda werid. It cause me an eye strain. Is calibration going to help?
     
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  11. thailandgod

    thailandgod Notebook Consultant

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    ok I just order spyder express. Is it good enough? or I need pro version. So I can only use with only one computer with express version?
     
  12. KCETech1

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    express is fine and is good with multiple systems. calibrate a few friends units snd charge them $10 and make it back
     
  13. thailandgod

    thailandgod Notebook Consultant

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    Is express only one monitor only? wow that cruel charge 10$ for my friends ;D
     
  14. arcticjoe

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    I have a 95% matte calibrated profile I can upload here, no point spending money on it.
     
  15. Tyranids

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    Please do =D
     
  16. arcticjoe

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    ICC profile attached bellow.
     
  17. thailandgod

    thailandgod Notebook Consultant

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    OMG thanks so much man I will try that, but are those the same profile that sager provide? Is it going to work with my np9150?

    The graphic card and processor are totally different.
     
  18. dave1812

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    if u think the screen is "too saturated", perhaps you would be better off with a lower-gamut screen. people used to cheap screens will tend to think of a properly calibrated wide gamut screen is being "too saturated". Being an amateur photographer, I absolutely love the accuracy of my Sager's calibrated 95% gamut matte screen. Sounds like you aren't a photographer, in which case you may be better off, as I said, with a low-gamut screen.

    furthermore, you can easily reduce the saturation without bothering with calibration hardware--use Nvidia Control Panel to adjust saturation (but I think that's nuts! LOL!) If you use Nvidia, you won't be able to adjust the color via calibration files or hardware. choose calibration or choose Nvidia, but you can't mix them.
     
  19. thailandgod

    thailandgod Notebook Consultant

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    You are right. I am not photographer, but I already receive my laptop. I just want the best screen as possible, so I choose 95% gamut.
     
  20. dave1812

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    did you get the matte one? I'll be darned if I'll ever buy another laptop with a glossy screen. :)
     
  21. arcticjoe

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    profile works independent of any other hardware, all you need to have is an AUO B156HW01 V.4 screen (this screen is used by most manufacturers selling 95% gamut panels).

    by the way, to use the panel you need to:


    open the file by double clicking it, it will install the profile on your system. To force your windows to use it you will need to go to Screen Resolution panel, click on Advanced Settings, Color Management tab and then Color Management button.
    If this is the first time you are installing a profile you will need to go to Advanced tab, select Change System Defaults, go to Advanced tab again and tick Use Windows Display Configuration.
    It will now allow you to activate your own profile, so in Advanced tab select NP813_5_LEN40B2_Matte_95_NV_V2 as your default Device Profile, go back to Devices tab, click Add, select NP813_5_LEN40B2_Matte_95_NV_V2 profile again and set it as your default (if it isnt already set).

    Thats pretty much it, there might be occasional occurrences where windows stops using the icc profile but all you need to do there is select it as your default again on Color Management panel (devices tab).
     
  22. gcrain

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    Isn't part of calibration to compensate for the variance in manufacturing? If there was a standard profile you could use for each model I would think the resellers would include that for free.
     
  23. thailandgod

    thailandgod Notebook Consultant

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    I bought the matte one :D
     
  24. arcticjoe

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    apparently there is some small variance between screen batches of the same model, but I have found that its very minuscule when compared to factory spec colour imbalances present on all the identical models.
     
  25. thailandgod

    thailandgod Notebook Consultant

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    But isn't the result will be much better with calibration hardware tool? I mean if I use your V2 profile. Will it give me the same result as spyder?
     
  26. arcticjoe

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    i'm near 100% certain that profile was created with a calibration tool, probably spyder. Someone else has made it and uploaded it online, I am only sharing it (I havent made it myself).
     
  27. upgradeyourlaptop

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    A 95% screen gives your display a larger range of reproducible colours. This looks better than a standard screen but is of limited value for colour accurate work unless correctly calibrated to display the 'right' colours.

    A calibration device displays a series of colours on screen during the calibration process where it knows what the recorded colour readings *should* be. Some screens have a bluish colour cast, or some may have a yellowish tint. During this process, the calibration tool will record the differences between the expected and recorded colour values are and write them in a file that describes to the OS how to display the right colours. It also takes into account the colour temperature of the ambient light in your viewing area and adjusts accordingly. This is the final ICC profile you get from the process which you apply to Windows.

    While using someone else's profile is a better starting point, it's not ideal, and can be as bad as not calibrating, since you're still not operating under a 'known' standard. For example, if they made their calibration while using incandsecent bulbs(yellowish lighting) and you're viewing in a fluorescent(greenish cast unless specially balanced) environment, it won't be as accurate, not to mention that each display has its own unique qualities that make a 'one-size-fits-all' a bit hopeless.

    In short, if you require a high degree of colour accuracy, as many photographers and designers do, get a calibration on a 95% display. Also make sure to use proper soft proofing and print profiles if the images will be printed. That's a discussion for another thread though.
     
  28. gaidin43

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    What is the gamut % for a stock matte screen for an np9150?
     
  29. Heihachi_1337

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    The NP9150 stock matte display should be 66% gamut.
     
  30. gaidin43

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    Humm had a 95% in my np9130 I wonder if I'll be able to tell the difference with the 66% in my np9150.
     
  31. Heihachi_1337

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    It is pretty noticeable, at least for those that have to see all of the display options on a daily basis.

    You may have to wait and see.

    It's not like going from black and white to color, more like going from flat colors to just under a neon kind of color.
     
  32. BugOut Machine

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    Calibrating your monitor is ideal even if you don’t have a special xx% color gamut or work in fields requiring extremely accurate replication. If you use your computer to watch a lot of movies and especially if you have a Blu-ray player and GPU with HD capability it obviously would benefit you to tweak the settings. Several resellers do charge for the service but some manufacturers offer it as a courtesy. If you want to improve the quality of your monitor it can never hurt to try and do it yourself with some of the free programs available.

    I would recommend one of the following programs for free monitor calibration: Calibrize 2.0 (easy to use, great results) , dispcalGUI 1.0.7.7 (more advanced but excellent results), Monitor Calibration Wizard 1.0 (simple to use, very good results).

    Here is a nice guide from wikiHow as well.

    I hope this helps!
     
  33. keifox

    keifox Newbie

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    Nice, I will give this a try.