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    Question about M570TU

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by me12345, Apr 22, 2008.

  1. me12345

    me12345 Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi there,

    I was planing on buying a Clevo 17 inch with a 8800 GTX GPU this this week, until my friend suggested that I wait until this summer for the Clevo M570TU to come out.

    Things are a little fuzzy to me when it comes to computers but the main difference to me only seems to be the e-sata, and HDMI support? He also might have said something about the 9800 GPU being available as well, but I've been told the 9 series is a die shrink?

    I am hesitant to get the M570TU because I'm not sure if there is a major difference from the hardware that is available now, unless of course the hardware available now will decrease in prince when all that new techology comes out this summer...

    Anyways please enlighten me so that I can make an informed decision about when to my my laptop. (I'm really in no hurry to buy, and can wait up to another couple months or so, if new and exciting technology is just around the corner.)

    Thank you
     
  2. jmanrob

    jmanrob Notebook Enthusiast

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    From what I've read so far on the 9800, I would wait on the G100 AKA GT200. I can't tell you if its worth waiting for the 9800m gtx. But my 5793 runs all games fine. 8800m gtx is a great card imo.

    BTW...8800 users may be able to upgrade there cards when the 9800 releases :)
     
  3. me12345

    me12345 Notebook Evangelist

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    Thank you for the reply. From what I can gather, the GT200 will be released something in Q3 and is for desktops only?
     
  4. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Yes.You probably won`t see the 9th series in notebooks(high end cards I mean) until after the summer anyway.
    Maybe next year, Gt200M.
     
  5. Eleison

    Eleison Thanatos Eleison

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    Please note that this is speculation. We can all hope that the cards will be interchangeable, but nVIDIA seems to make little changes in spec with each new card they release that end up requiring a new motherboard (see the upgrade from the 8700M/GO 7950 to the 8800M GTX. A lot of posters on these forums complained about the motherboard change, but Sager and their resellers had been saying for months that the modular nature of the MXM socket was not a guarantee of upgradability). Buy a notebook that you can be satisfied with now, or wait for the specific piece of hardware you want. Please don't buy something that feels like "settling" now in the expectation that you can upgrade it later.

    The only "upgrades" you are guaranteed are the upgrades listed by your vendor (in other words, RAM, hard drives, and CPUs that are CURRENTLY offered).
     
  6. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    If The performance diff between the 8800 and 9800 is similar to the 9500 and 8600, then who cares????
     
  7. me12345

    me12345 Notebook Evangelist

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    Interesting read, since hardware performance won't be much of a difference, I am curious to know if the price of the current hardware will be reduced when the new stuff comes out?

    If not, I shall be buying my new laptop today. :)

    Thanks again for the replies guys.
     
  8. zfactor

    zfactor Mastershake

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    very little to be gained with the 9800 imo.. ive used them on desktops vs a 8800 and there was only minimal gains nothing crazy..
     
  9. spexc31

    spexc31 Notebook Evangelist

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    im more interested in the die shrink making the thing run cooler.
    well the only other 15.4'' laptop with an 8800gtx in it suffered from heat problems.
    you think that the M570TU will not suffer as badly? (hopefully....)
     
  10. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    You mean the other 15 incher, as in the 860TU.
    The M570TU will be the 17 inch RU we know today as Sager 579x , with added eSata and HDMI ports.
     
  11. Sparks

    Sparks Notebook Consultant

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    I would buy a a 570TU if i knew clevo was going to install quiter fans. The fan noise is the only thing thats making me question this laptop, despite the bios update I still read complaints about the noise. So for now i'm hoping for a price drop in the 570RU's far enough to hopefully compenstate for the noise.
     
  12. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Is the 570TU comming with QX9300 support?
    Is anybody aware of other announced machines that will run that cpu natively?
     
  13. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    Possibly, no conformation as of yet
     
  14. Raiden Kitsune

    Raiden Kitsune Newbie

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    I could be wrong here, but I thought the 570TU was also going to be on the Montevino platform (1066 mhz FSB, DDR3 support)? That's the reason I've been waiting for it.
     
  15. auburncoast

    auburncoast Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    yup thats right it will support montevina
     
  16. EdiT808

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    though the 9800 series is a die shrink most people fail to realize for a laptop, and desktop that means better heat management over all. I dont know about you all but heat management is a + in my book. the M570TU will feature esata and HDMI ports, to some people that is a welcome edition. How i look at it just 2 months away to next greatest thing then..... Boom another next greatest thing is 3 months away. So like how some of the posters have said its best to get what you need now then sit and wait.
     
  17. Raiden Kitsune

    Raiden Kitsune Newbie

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    Maybe, but it seems to me that the TU is going to be a bigger-than-average step forward. For what I'm looking for, it seems like it will be worth the wait, as difficult as waiting is getting. The faster FSB and DDR3 memory will count for a lot, the 9800 GPU's Hybridpower should make the machine a bit more practical, if it makes as big a difference to battery life as Nvidia claims it will, and the HDMI ports will let me hook it up to my HDTV and use it as a blue-ray player.
     
  18. auburncoast

    auburncoast Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    yes. we've all said if you can then wait. only buy when you must. I'm waiting for the m860tu. i especially like the addition of eSATA. I'm getting myself a samsung spinpoint 1TB and throwing that in an antec mx-1 cooled enclosure. Will serve me well.
     
  19. arkham

    arkham Notebook Consultant

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    In Clevo's response to my email they said they didn't have any answers for me re: eta or fans, and that the M570TU is "in test phase now".

    Just to let ya know. ;)
     
  20. smood

    smood Notebook Evangelist

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    Test phase? Damn it.
     
  21. arkham

    arkham Notebook Consultant

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    Well, at least that suggests they have the new platform and are QA-ing the new model. I'm hoping the new laptops will start showing up at Clevo resellers in late June to mid-July.
     
  22. smood

    smood Notebook Evangelist

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    I was hoping they would come sooner (Mid to late June). If they are still testing it now I don't see how its going to be released this summer.

    Also theres no damn word on 9800M GTX which everyone is waiting for.
     
  23. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    You won`t see the 9800M GTX this summer. It`s too much of a long shot...
     
  24. Nirvana

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    TU still worth to wait tho, you can switch between 8800m and integrated GPU?
     
  25. arkham

    arkham Notebook Consultant

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    I wondered about that. I think in the past where integrated GPUs were available with a certain chipset, it was up the laptop's particular configuration whether or not it was included. I would love to have the option to use the on-board graphics for power and heat savings.
     
  26. Eleison

    Eleison Thanatos Eleison

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    It will still be in "testing" until Intel formally releases the Montevina platform. You can't have a notebook released before the platform it uses :)