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    Question in regards to the W860CU

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by somep3ople, Dec 9, 2010.

  1. somep3ople

    somep3ople Notebook Consultant

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    My friend told me that he was willing to sell me his laptop for a good price to me, however i was wondering in regards to the upgrade ability in regards to the laptop

    the following questions

    1) does this model support multi gpu cards?

    2) the laptop runs a core i5 so i would have no trouble putting in a higher i7 right?

    3) what kind of psu does this model have

    4)would gtx 480m be possible to be installed in this? if multi is possible would 2 be possible?

    5) does the motherboard differ in anyway with sagers newest top of the line available line up,

    6) physically how is the casing and is there any difference with sagers current top of the end line up, could screen be upgraded etc.

    look forward to the respones, the more facts and details i can get in regards to this model and overall about sager's lines up and upgrade ability the more informative it'll be
     
  2. JohnnyFlash

    JohnnyFlash Notebook Virtuoso

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    There are plenty of reviews and information out there on this model.
     
  3. neol

    neol Notebook Consultant

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    @JohnnyFlash: dude you nailed it :D
     
  4. somep3ople

    somep3ople Notebook Consultant

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    why would you say the 480m is garbage, just because it lacks overclocking capability's? also the motherboard is obviously different due to not having sli, i meant how is the casing, is it any different then higher end models, say i wanted to remove all the internal parts and put in a sli mobo in it, and in regards to the 180w adapters your not talking about external power adapters right?

    also what kind of internal psu does sagers new 480m sli notebook use.
     
  5. JohnnyFlash

    JohnnyFlash Notebook Virtuoso

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    The 480m has been fail since release. When it came out, it was 5-10% better than the HD5800m's, but at 2.5x the cost and +30% power draw. That's why the w880cu was created, to handle the massive draw the 480m has. Now that the 470m is out, and it beats the 480m in every possible way. The w870cu/w860cu can use them, because they don't use a stupid amount of power. It's expensive ($730 on RJTech), but still less than the 480m. It's based on GF104, so it's way more efficient than the GF100 architecture of the 480m. The x7200 now has the option for 460m SLi, and I'm willing to bet that as soon as the current 480m stock is cleared, we'll start to see a 470m SLi option. There are a tonne of threads on the 470m in this section.

    As far as power options, the PSU is located on the outside of all notebooks. If you mean the voltage regulators, yes the x7200 and w880cu have better ones, but for obvious reasons.

    For the casing, the w860cu and w880cu are the same. The x7200 is metal, but we're talking a much higher price bracket there.

    My question to you is this: Are you in the market to spend over two grand? Because, if you're not, then a used w860cu for around $1000 is the best deal you're going to see and there's no point comparing to something you aren't considering.
     
  6. somep3ople

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    i built extremely high end desktop machines and custom phase change units, believe me i can spend up to 10 grand if i want, i already run 3 30" 2560x1600 3dvision surround, and there has to be an internal "VOLTAGE REGULATOR" as you put it aka internal psu, when the laptop is in mobile mode it doesnt draw it's power from any a/c adapter. so i'm wondering what the internals are, no matter what adapter you have externally it''s internal that counts otherwise the system wont be able to sustain stability without bsoding.

    just came here to get as many facts as i could, i'm in other laptop sections also. and personally i don't care if a card takes alot more power, i'm purely about performance, i've seen the thread on the 470m but there needs to be more tests done everything is just mixed up from various places also notebookccheck doesn't seem to share the rank in performance vs 480m stock on there list.

    EDIT: i've been building high end for over a decade now, personally if i can save a good buck here and there and modify it myself, i can get parts from a few sources and i wont lose not a bit of performance and save myself a good chunk of cash, which i'm sure any reasonable person/overclocker would find ideal like i do.
     
  7. JohnnyFlash

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    OK, cool. In my opinion, I would just wait a couple more months for the new Intel architecture, or spend on the x7200 then.

    As far as the 480m, some of us just don't believe that it's worth the extra cost and power. Having the money is not always reason enough to spend it, there's always something else that you want as well. That's just an opinion though, not everyone is going to share it of course. The bottom line, is that the w860cu won't take a 480m. It will take a 470m, so if you want to upgrade, that's the path you will have to take until something newer comes along.

    My system is pushed pretty much as far as these things can go. I have addition ramsinks on the heatsinks, extra ventilation holes in the case. Even with that and top-end hardware, the x7200 still owns my rig. If you still want to look into hardcore modding, Soviet would probably be the guy to talk to.
     
  8. somep3ople

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    and one last thing, if you happen to know about there current line up of 480m sli on there site based of the x7200 i believe, what is the TDP limit for the notebook, i'm guessing it has a pretty beefy power supply to run those overpowered 480m's your referring to.
     
  9. JohnnyFlash

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    Off hand I'm not sure what the overall rating for the notebook is, but they come with a 300watt adapter. Some people are trying to mod them because 300watts just isn't enough for the high-end configs. Which makes sense: (2x 100watt GPU + 130watt CPU + 50watt everything else) The thread here should answer those questions for you.
     
  10. somep3ople

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    err another question, this is the 15" model now with the 1920 x 1080, so i can only replace it with a 15" monitor panel correct, no way to get a 17" inch lcd in this thing right? it would be possible but it would be irregular due to the casing being smaller from 17" inch models or is it possible?
     
  11. silenius

    silenius Notebook Enthusiast

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    very difficult (unless you can mold another case for the screen)
     
  12. somep3ople

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    so no sense to attempt to put a 17Inch on it, however how about in general, it's not difficult to replace the screen with appropriate sized screens right, no desoldering involved?
     
  13. JohnnyFlash

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    Nope, you just have to disconnect it and pull it out.