Question regarding my Xotic PC order

Hi guys so I'm getting ready to order my first gaming laptop. I decided to go with the Sager NP8651 from Xotic :

XOTIC PC | Sager NP8651 (Clevo P650SE) - 15.6" Gaming Notebook

A few questions about the process since this is new to me. The "Cooling Package". What exactly do they alter from the Sager original cooling? In the video I saw ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GEM3xHxwJI) the innards looking very impressing with 3 fans and copper cooling. Is that how it comes stock? Is the Cooling Package they offer at a higher price really going to beat that?

Same question regarding the Copper cooling upgrade - "Extra Cooling Copper Heatsinks Applied to the Heatsink/Heatpipes "

Is this just kind of a sneaky way to make some extra money or do they actually put ~$100 worth of value into the laptop?

Also, any difference in the wireless cards listed? They are the same price

Sager - Built-in 802.11 Wireless B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card + Bluetooth™ 4.0
Sager - Intel® Dual Band AC 7260 802.11 A/AC/B/G/N 2.4/5.0GHz + Bluetooth™ 4.0

All in all with my OS and everything it comes out to be $100 cheaper than the MSI/Asus in the same price range. Instead of a fancy soundcard I get a 128gb SSD for the OS which is a win to me.

Thanks!

 

The copper upgrade usually just lowers the speed of how fast the increase to temps but it doesn't lower max temp (from several threads I've googled). So, IMO, not worth.

 

Wireless AC 7260/65 is the better choice. Has the newer AC support.

 

I replied to this same question yesterday here.

In short, extra copper will provide extra surface area for heat dissipation. I don't know exactly how much extra is used, a side by side comparison would be nice. Copper is also not cheap, so there is that. For the $59 they are charging for the Black Friday upgrade, I think there is value there if you are putting together a $2000 rig. On a $500-1000 rig, it probably wouldn't be worth it.

And with regard to grandfinale saying it won't lower max temps... It depends on how much cooler the copper is than the heat generating source, and that depends on the ambient temperature in the room and how much air you have moving over the copper. If the copper is getting good heat transfer it will be nice and chilly, putting that chill directly on your cpu and gpu. A really good copper setup can be as good as cheap water cooling solution.

 

For extra copper to aid cooling there must be air drawn over it externally and a place for it to exit otherwise you are simply increasing the thermal mass of the system.

 

We havent actually done the copper cooling upgrade to this model yet since it still so new. Hoping to get one in soon that has this upgrade ordered so we can really see what can be done with it and its effects.

 

That is not true if the surface area is greater. If you have a 1x1x4" block, the surface area would be 4x4 on top, and 1x4 on the four sides, or 32" of surface cooling area. If you go thicker, 2x1x4, you have doubled the thickness but the surface area would only increase to 48". So double the copper in this example (thickness) would not gain double the cooling surface area.

However, if on that same 1x1x4" block, you added a single .5x1x4" fin on top, you would gain 11" of surface area for adding a half inch thick fin.

So, if you add surface area to the cooling pipes and/or heatsink, it will better utilize the existing airflow by providing more surface area with which to dissipate heat.

Add surface area, good. Add thickness, bad.

 

If you were adding heatsinks to the area with airflow (the fins) I would agree you are adding surface area, however the surface area you are adding is effectively dead due to airflow issues.