Questions about Sager and Clevo laptops

RAM promo works with any RAM configuration for Malibal. I am not sure about whether applying thermal paste yourself will void the warranty.

If you have used glossy screens for a long time and do not mind the glare, then going with a glossy screen will be fine. My workplace's lighting easily reflects off glossy screens, and during a lot of group meetings it becomes a struggle to read off my screen.

Also, something to add about the 65% colour gamut (I think that's what the default screen is) vs 95% colour gamut. A lot of laptops from Acer, HP, Lenovo, Sony, Dell, etc. by default use screens that are low-contrast and also are around 65% colour gamut. So, if you are coming from an older laptop sold by those mainstream companies and felt the screens were perfectly fine, you can opt to save a lot of money by going with the default glossy screen.

Matte vs Glossy: matte screens tend to be lower contrast and less vibrant than their glossy counterparts. With matte, some of the lighting that is emitted from the LED backlight does not get transmitted through the matte screen in a "straight line" (light comes in photons so... not going to go into that ;p), because matte screens are not perfectly flat (at a microscopic level). This helps alleviate glare, but lowers the image contrast and colour vibrancy. Glossy screens are more flat at a microscopic level, which causes the glare but allows more of the backlight to be properly transmitted. You get the better contrast and colour vibrancy as a trade-off.

Edit: I got ninja'd

 

Yes but your post was may more detailed, the science behind the madness! I like your description actually, never considered the science.

 

On a more applicable note, I do not notice the loss in contrast going from my ASUS laptop to my desktop which uses a matte ASUS monitor; in fact I think there is better contrast on my desktop's matte monitor! So screen quality also comes into play, but even the default screen on the Clevo/Sager should be a good choice. A true comparison would be to take two of the same LCD panels, and then place one behind a matte screen and the other behind a glossy screen (now THIS is a scientific experiment!). I just decided to go matte because of my work environment being unfriendly to glossy screens.

 

To be fair, going from a laptop to a desktop, I'd assume there is a big power draw difference too. I'd think it would be easier to light a desktop monitor than a laptop monitor, based on power draw.

I'm not a monitor expert though. This assumption is based on all the other components that I AM aware of where the power draw is significantly different.

 

Well for my desktop I use an Acer x233H monitor, on the dv6z I felt that the color was really good (I think it should be a glossy monitor, the glare was kind of okay), is my desktop monitor matte or glossy? I tried googling but couldn't find anything on it. For my desktop monitor a lot of times i think that there is too much glare... and so more gamut basically means more contrast?

 

Easy test - Turn the monitor off. Can you see yourself in it? If so it is glossy

 

Or you have a very bright complexion!

 

it's matte, haha, i'll probably go with glossy on the laptop though since i like pretty colors, that would be the "GlassView" display from malibal right?

 

It is the default option - but yes it is GlassView.

Just keep in mind there is the default then the upgraded screen, both of which are glossy. The upgraded screen has better color reproduction and higher contrast ratio. If you're a basic user though I wouldn't fret this one.

 

but this is the default lol -- 15.6" 1920 x 1080 FHD LED Backlit 95% NTSC Color Gamut GlassView Display -- the other two are both matte displays

 

Oh my mistake, I was thinking 17".

Although last I looked at 15" models, the upgrade options were one matte and one glossy, both 95% NTSC Color Gamut. If it is the default, I'd scoop that one up no problems

 

Yes, the GlassView is a Glossy Screen.

 

Sager are running out of standard matte screens for the NP8130. So they offer the 95% Glossy upgrade for free. Some resellers still have the usual matte option, with the 95% Glossy for the same price, while other resellers do not have the standard matte available anymore.

 

We still have the regular matte screen on the P151HM1 in stock and shipping out regularly.

 

I was looking at the P150hm. Looks like its still a standard matte screen with a charge for the Glossy or Matte upgrade.

Maybe they just want to unload some 8130's?

 

Who has the 95% gamut as default? I haven't seen it.

 

Many people do, I think all Sager Dealers do at least. (Glossy one) On the 8130 only.

There are no standard Matte screens period at Sager from any of us dealers here on NBR that purchase from them.

 

Thanks for the clarification. It will be my luck that a 95% comes standard just after I buy my machine.

 

It is the Glossy 95% if that matters to you. It use to be a $30 upgrade and is now stock. If your order has not shipped and was ordered from us we guarantee pricing up until the day it ships. So you can get the current pricing!

 

Matte. I can't stand the glare.

 

The matte is the same price as it has been, sorry

 

I hope to never have the displeasure of ever buying any monitor or laptop again, with a glossy screen. My 8130, and my short-lived DV6 (I returned it fo refund in less than a week) both have the non-glare screens and after having those, I can see why I so hate glossy screens. I recently got a 32" vizio non-glare screen as well.

 

If only the 95% Gamut Matte display didn't cost an extra $95 to upgrade to :/

 

Oh, I have had my AS5 for like a year or two now, do thermal pastes degrade over time?

 

Generally speaking no. The compound they're made out of won't evaporate or lose effectiveness just due to age. However, if you ever pull off the heat sink for whatever reason, you should reapply if you can. (Just putting the heat sink back with the same paste can introduce air bubbles which reduce effectiveness)

In the same year or two though, cleaning out the vents a few times is still a good maintenance procedure

 

Ah thank you very much, what would you say is the most effective way of spreading thermal paste? I've used the line method and the latex glove/credit card method on desktop CPUs before.

 

It depends entirely on the paste. IC Diamond for example, requires only placing a pea sized amount on the die and then attaching the heatsink:

Application

Whereas Arctic Silver varies based on the processor and can be either vertical line or surface spread application:

Arctic Silver Incorporated - Home

 

Oh wow, I didn't know AS5 had a different application method for mobile cpus, thanks for the help, also can you tell me what the difference is between the network cards? What benefits do the more expensive network cards offer?

 

That is awesome. Good to have a resource for the manufacturer's recommendation on application. Thanks!

 

So my Zalman ZM-NC1000 blows air upwards, does p151hm blow air downwards or does it suck up air?

 

They go like this:

Stock - 150Mbps, 1x1 antennas (send x receive), bluetooth
6230 - 300Mbps, 2x2 antennas, bluetooth
6300 - 450Mbps, 3x3 antennas

The more expensive cards offer more antennas which increases both the maximum data rate as well as making for a stronger connection at range compared to the lower models.

The P151HM1 brings in air on the bottom of the laptop and exhausts out the rear left and right sides.

 

Ah thank you very much, good to know that the p141hm1 brings air in from the bottom.

 

new question: is the processor in the p151hm1 upgradable? like if i choose the i5 can i put in an i7 myself? is the processor soldered? oh and would i need a new power brick or w/e if i upgrade it (power brick is the charger right)?

 

Here is the service manual for that model.

P15xHM_ESM.zip

It'll answer all your questions about upgrades.

 

The CPU is very user upgradable in this model. No need for a larger PSU as well.
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