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    Re-paste and install hybrid HD today?.a few questions?.

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by ksimm033, Jan 4, 2012.

  1. ksimm033

    ksimm033 Notebook Consultant

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    I have never re-pasted a CPU or GPU before or install a HD for that matter. I think the re-pasting will be easy with the help of some YouTube videos; really does not look hard. Any tips would be helpful though…I’m using Artic Silver 5.

    Now the bigger issue…..how to install a hard drive:
    With all the normal boot setting from the factory, is it as easy as taking the old one out, putting the new one in, powering the machine on, putting the OS disc in the optical drive, and installing OS? The hard drive is the Hybrid if that means or changes anything.

    Also on the box of my machine (8150) which I received yesterday…..the white label sticker says “95% NTSC” though I did not order the upgraded screen. The sticker also says w/o CPU, w/o HD, w/o memory (or something like that). How do I tell what screen I have?

    Thanks in advance for the help!
     
  2. pwcmed

    pwcmed Notebook Guru

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    Do not use Arctic Silver 5. Using something that is not conductive, ie.. AC MX-2, MX-4 or Arctic Silver Ceramique.

    Take the old hard drive drive (HDD) out put the new one in, press F7, select the OS disc and install the away, its that easy.

    Oh and the hybrid means it is a SSD/HDD. It's not as fast a SSD but not as slow as a HDD but still get the capacity of a HDD.
     
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    ksimm033 Notebook Consultant

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    So Artic Silver 5 is no good? I know it's older stuff on the market but I've never heard not to use it over a factory paste.

    Thanks...sounds simple enough.

    Yeah, I was just curious if, since it's a Hybrid (SSD/HDD) that anything would need to be done different compared to a regular/standard HDD.
     
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    pwcmed Notebook Guru

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    Arctic silver 5 works great but it's conductive and can cause some major issues. I've read others use IC Diamond 7 with better results.

    CPU Difference

    Look at the pic and you will notice that the mobile part on the left does not have the metal cover that the desktop does. The metal cover protects the CPU from the Arctic Silver 5. I actually destroyed a amd CPU before they started using these covers.
     
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    Arctic Silver will work fine. It's really not that different from IC Diamond in terms of performance. I'm not sure what is being referenced when saying that it's conductive- it just doesn't matter that much in the end. If you're careful not to slop it all over the rest of the components and put it on cleanly, there shouldn't be any issues. Non-conductive is really important if you're doing small components or those near traces, but the die itself is big and easy to do. If it's what you've already got on hand, I wouldn't go out and purchase anything new.

    Below are two links, one to the service manual for this laptop (thanks to Theriko) with instructions on applying paste and another link to AS5 instructions specifically.

    Arctic Silver, Inc. - Intel® Application Methods
    P15xHM_ESM.zip

    For the hybrid drive, it really is that simple. Swap out the drives, boot to your OS install disk, install the Operating System, and then you'll be good to go. The SSD portion of that hybrid drive is automatic, you don't have to do anything. Commonly used programs will speed up over time.
     
  6. ksimm033

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    Thanks for pointing that out; what about the GPU? Artic 5 is all I have right now. Would it be ok or is it recommended for me to repaste the GPU and leave the factory paste on the CPU. I have a 6990m. Does the CPU (2670QM) really need repasting?
     
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    Check the service manual above, you can repaste both with the instructions in there. They're really simple to do. My only advice is not to bother repasting the memory on the GPU (the separate heatsink that wraps around the die). As long as you do the main GPU and CPU dies, you'll be fine (and probably notice a drop in temps). Just remember that AS5 does have a significantly longer curing time than IC Diamond would. AS5 is 200 hours versus the 2 hours on IC Diamond. This means that you won't see the best temps until after it has cured.
     
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    Maybe it was the older arctic silver stuff but they still have a warning on there site.

    AS5
     
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    Malibal #2- thanks for the response; you submitted it as I was typing my last one. I appreciate the help and the links....I also really do appreciate the support of this tight nit group. I would have never really known about clevo/the re-sellers if it was not for this board. Good looking out.

    Any info/program as to tell what screen I have?
     
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    Does anyone have a service manual in pdf format. I'm not able to pull it up at work lol.
     
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    That service manual is in PDF form, just in a zip file. You'll have to unzip it to open it.

    As for your screen, you can download a program like HWiNFO64. It should list a report that has a drop down to check the Monitor. The "Monitor Name" field will give you the exact screen installed. They should all be variants of B156HW01, with a Vx number listed. The x represents the version of the monitor you have. The list below covers the common models:

    V.0 - stock glossy screen
    v.1 - stock matte screen
    v.4 - 95% matte screen
    v.7 - 95% glossy screen

    HWiNFO64 Download
     
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    I'm sure the site was blocked by his proxy. That's why he wants a direct link to the PDF. That is by far the best manual I have seen for any electronic device I have ever owned.

    You should be able to pull the info in the device manager aswell.

    Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk
     
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    Any other views on Artic Silver 5?

    And my screen is made by LG/Phillips. I downloaded HWinFO64 but it did not give me a version (v.x) number. It's prob just stock. What I did find weird was that the program said my 6990's proc mhz is 100 and memory mhz 150 (I think it was memory).
     
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    Like your CPU, your gpu also reduces its frequency when its not needed. Put a load on it and watch it go up.

    Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk
     
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    Just installed the hard drive and everything went as should....thanks. And I appreciate the info on the 6990m. Put off on the thermal compound to do this weekend and still debating on the Artic 5.
     
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    There's nothing wrong with AS5. I've been using it for 6 or 7 years now in every computer I've built/owned and never had an issue with it. I've pasted 40+ video cards and 30+ CPUs with AS5 for myself and others. It's the first thing I do and the results are always great (after the curing period).

    For your situation, I would highly recommend it if you have the stuff on hand. I have a P170HM with a 2630qm and 6990m and I couldn't be happier with the temps I am getting. I saw a minor drop in temps on the CPU, but the GPU I saw a vast improvement from a simple repaste with AS5.
     
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    NoPeace, I know the spread method is preferred or at least by what the company website says......do you have any tips or have you found any methods that have worked better for you since you have used the product a lot? What did you use to spread it with? Thanks
     
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    The spread method works best on these machines because the CPU and GPU aren't perfectly square (so a line or pea method wouldn't have the best coverage). You can use a (clean!) razor blade or the edge of a credit card to spread the paste onto the die.
     
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    Awesome, thanks! Prob will use a credit card.