Recommed 180W / 220W power supply for P150EM?

Has anyone bought a new 180W or 220W power supply for their Clevo? Any third party ones that won't melt down or explode or burn up? Can you recommend one? Thanks.

 

Ask which one resellers use. Name and so on

See if they can make a deal for you.. or else just buy one off eBay / Amaz..

Check THIS out.

Actually really sad that Kensigton doesn't make 180W PSU's

Best of luck finding a good one

 

heres one but its good amount of money:

Clevo Laptop Parts :: P150HM/P170HM :: 180W AC Adapter for P150HM - R&J Technology, Clevo Barebone Notebook kits, Laptop and desktop system builder

 

I`m not 100% shure but I think you need to mod the 220W plug to make it work on your P150EM since its a different plug than P170EM. pau1ow did it with his 220W PSU.

Here is P150EM 180W
CLEVO P150 P150EM P150HM P151 P151HM1 Gaming Charger ac adapter

Here is P170EM 220W
220w CLEVO X711 P170 P170EM P170HM P170HM3 ac dapter charger

Some resellers also sell just the PSU, so you could ask them

 

I bought a PSU from R&J Tech and it's fine, same unit as you would get with the p150 laptops.

 

Ok, thanks. I guess I was hoping to find a "travel" one. Something thinner and lighter. I'm sure I can get a good deal from LPC, but would prefer something a little smaller and lighter if possible.

 

For P170EM, several AC adapters from Toshiba (PA-1181) or Acer (AP.18001/AP.18003) should match, for example this one. But you should get the details about plug pin assignment. In your NP9150, AFAIK, two-contact pipe-type plug is used.

Even if your laptop uses 220W adapter, it is superfluous in most cases. Except you have Extreme CPU edition, two hard disks, all USB ports used and run a hardly calculating/rendering software, 180W (and maybe even 150) should be enough. For example, 220W adapter of my P170EM (3610QM, 4x4 GB, 500 GB hybrid drive, GTX 670M) becomes just warm (not hot) even after I run Aida64 for several hours. I want to buy a small energy measurement device but they are not available in our local stores, only from eBay/AliExpress.

 

Its for p150em users pushing the cpu and graphics with a similar setup to mine.

 

I have one of these tips from my previous power adater:



I guess I can basically just purchase a P170EM 220W adapter and use these tips to power my P150EM.

 

Nope that won't work, the pin assignement is different even though the converter fits perfectly (i got the same power tips and the P170EM adapter) - I'm doing custom 220/230W adapters as there're no pin converters at all.

 

Are you saying the pins are reversed compared to Targus 180W's 4 pins?

 

Pinout of FSP220-ABAN1 (for P170EM) plug:



BTW, plug's shell is grounded.

 

I use this one: Meanwell Power Supply hlg-320h

 

Did you saw alone female mini DIN DC plugs compatible with P170EM in the market?

 

Has a similar height to the P150EM 180W but 25.2cm for the length, does it fit into the bag easily?

 

Is there an advantage to using a different PSU than what comes from OEM? I'd only be interested like HTWingNut if there was one that was slimmer and lighter than what I have now. Though I am impressed that the P150EM PSU doesn't get nearly as hot as my G73JH 150watt PSU.

 

XTU + 680M extreme OC can exceed 180W easily.

@emusic,

So the 220W power adapter that comes with the P170EM has a female 4 pin tip?

 

Unfortunately not. I use it exclusively at home. But it is perfect for OC (300W).

 

Yes. I just photographed mine and checked the pinout with a multimeter (voltage, polarity and pin interconnections).

 

I see, thanks, I guess I'll have to go for this one: Amazon.com: Hipower 220W AC Power Adapter Charger For Alienware Aurora 7700, M7700 Laptop Notebook Computers: Electronics

It has a male 4 pin tip, should work fine with the converter I have.

 

Check the pins layout first, or you might be disappointed and actually short the PSU.

I have looked around for a while and didn't find anything suitable, I modded 2 x 220 and 230w PSU by soldering the correct plug - imo the best option.

 

Sadly they don't ship internationally. By Layout you mean is by its shape or the +- that's assigned to each pin? There's no way to check if they are using the standard way of soldering however the head looks exactly the same as the Targus 180W.

There's another one that uses the exact same shape of the tip: Genuine AC Adapter Alienware Area 51-M 7700 M7700 220W Power Supply | eBay

20V/11A, 1V higher than the P170EM adapter's output but 0.56A lower on Amp. Both are 220W but is this going to perform differently to the 19V/11.56A? Or that range of difference with the same output W is acceptable?

 

Where do you get those tips?

 

It came with the Targus 180W adapter I bought in the past: Targus 180W AC Laptop Power Supply

 

Since each laptop has a power converter that uses PWM to produce target output voltages, input voltage range is relatively wide (18-20V typical, some laptops can work even at 16-25V). 20V is just 19V+5% so any 19V laptop will work at this voltage. A typical AC adapter output voltage precision is never better than 10%.

Because of PWM, internal power converter consumes a higher current if DC input voltage is lower, and vice versa. So it will consume less current from 20V adapter than from 19V one. Therefore, 19V/11.6A can be replaced with 20V/11A, or even with 18V/12.2A.

But slight overvoltage is better than undervoltage (because of PWM too). Only a significant (22-25V or more) overvoltage is really risky.

 

Thanks, now this AW brick sounds promising along with my tip converter.

 

Made some measurements with my P170EM (3610QM, GTX 670M, 4x4 SODIMM@1333, ST95005620AS) using DC amperemeter between the adapter and laptop and DC voltmeter on laptop.

Win7 x64, Aida64 full load (all targets checked), brightness 100%, BT off, WiFi on:

Battery 50% - [email protected] (200W).
Battery 70% - [email protected] (200W).
Battery 90% - [email protected] (183W).
Battery 100% - [email protected] (150W).

Win7 x64 loaded, untouched, brightness 12.5%, BT off, WiFi on:

Battery 50% - [email protected] (83W).
Battery 70% - [email protected] (74W).
Battery 80% - [email protected] (65W).
Battery 90% - [email protected] (52W).
Battery 95% - [email protected] (35W).

Win7 x64 loaded, untouched, battery 100%, BT off, WiFi on, DC 18.6V:

Brightness 0% - 1.2A (22W).
Brightness 12.5% - 1.25A (23W).
Brightness 25% - 1.3A (24W).
Brightness 50% - 1.36A (25W).
Brightness 100% - 1.5A (28W).

So 150W adapter can be enough only for pure AC working (my typical usage). With battery discharged down to 90%, full load is possible with 180W adapter. Otherwise, load must not be applied until battery is charged at least up to 80..90%.

 

Guys, trust me, I've also got the 180W Targus power supply and even though the tip converter is fine (4-pin DIN to 5.5x2.5mm tip), the + and - are the wrong way around into the converter compared to 220w output 4-pin DIN - it will simply won't work - this Targus tip converter only works with the 180W psu.

The only thing that can be done is cutting the output tip of your 220/230/240w PSU and replace it with the correct 5.5x2.5mm tip by resoldering the wires to the + and - pins and heatshrink all this so it looks the business.

 

I want to have 150W or 180W adapter in addition to my 220W one so I need to find either an adapter with the proper plug (I can resolder it to change the pinout if needed) or a separate 4-pin DIN plug that I didn't ever seen available in the market.

 

Wait, are you saying that most 220W brick's 4 pin connecter are reversed on the + and - compared to Targus 180W or just the P170EM power brick?

Is this one also reversed? Genuine AC Adapter Alienware Area 51-M 7700 M7700 220W Power Supply | eBay

 

Yes this is the one I had and tried - shorted the PSU.

 

Are the asus 230w 19.5v adaptors a no go?

 

It should work without any problem.

 

The schematics show 2DC-G213-B49 DC jack type for P150EM and 2MJ-3432-007 for P170EM. They are Singatron products (a lot of additional info is available on www.singatron.net). All jacks in each series (2DC-G213-xxx and 2MJ-3432-xxx) are size-compatible.

2DC-G213 is a typical signle-pin jack with 2.5mm pin so any 5.5mm diameter plug with 2.5mm hole should match (for example, this one). But there are almost no 150/180W power adapters with such plug because most high-power adapters use special 3- or 4-pin connectors.

Therefore, a best way is to buy any 19V 150/180W power adapter and replace the plug. Ordering the plug, make sure it has 2.5mm hole (it looks relatively big). Some suppliers offer "5.5/2.5" plugs that have only 1.7 or 2.1 mm hole. And the plug must contain a fork inside (as yellow-tip ones do), not a plain tube.

For P170EM, the situation is much worse. Most high-power laptop adapters come with Kycon KPPX-4P plugs that have prongs, not holes. Singatron's docs for 2MJ-3432 jacks mention their matching 2MP-3432-001 plug but there is no info in the Net. I see only Toshiba Satellite/Qosmio (P205, P205D, X205, X305, X500, X505, X770, X775) compatible adapters have 4-hole plugs matching to such socket:

Toshiba PA3546U-1ACA
Toshiba PA3546U-1AC3
Toshiba PA3546E-1ACA
Toshiba PA3546E-1AC3
ADP-180HB B

But I'm not sure about their pinouts.

A 4-hole plug is more short-circuit-proof than a KPPX-4P 4-prong one. Maybe it was the reason to use jacks with prongs and plugs with holes.

 

Forgot to mention but with the 230W PSU, I now pull over 200W during the first 3dmark11 graphic test with peaks up to 235w (numbers from the wall) - with the former 180w's, peak consumption was only 200w. That's with the GPU O/Ced to 1053/2550 (SVL7 1.037v vbios).

Battlefield 3 power consumption hovers between 190-205w.

Any 230W PSU will be OK - if you can find the 220W 20v/11A psu, this one is even better - I had it once and because the voltage is slightly higher, it makes me more comfortable as I know the voltage will be well maintained within its tolerances.

 

Well I will give the asus one a go. I need a second one since one of mine snuffed it.

 

Wow, so 220W is really needed then for any serious overclocking. Looks like the only way so far then is to splice your own connector since that other one has reversed polarity on the connectors.

 

where are you guys buying these power supplies? lol can we get some model numbers of PSUs that come with the correct adapters that we need?

 

The Lenovo 20V 11.5A 230W P/N:A230A001L or 45N0065 looks good.

It's a flatter design which will make it easier to travel with.

Will still need the correct size adapter soldering on though.

 

Right, i've gone for the asus 230W adaptor, used my vouchers I earned from my old AMD beta testing days on amazon.

Should be here by monday, it's ok if it's a little bulky since it's going to be sitting in my desk and I can town down the OC when out and about with my stock adaptor.

 

So you're thinking Asus 230W should work right out of the box? Please let us know how it works. Would be nice to have an alternative higher power PSU for future when I decide to clock the hell outta my 680m for future games. I guess I have a while, hopefully later than sooner. I'd like to update the original post though with off the shelf PSU's if possible. So far I see nothing except possibly this Asus.

 

How about the HP Elitebook 230W?

http://h30094.www3.hp.com/product.asp?sku=10216236&mfg_part=AT895AA&pagemode=ca

 

There are no 200W+ PSU that comes originally with the 5.5x2.5mm suitable power tip for P150EM/MSI NB...reason being this plug is not rated at such power so there are no "off shelf" 220/230/240W PSU that will work OTB - you will always have to re-wire or cut the power plug and solder the correct one !

 

The asus is 5.5/2.5 =).

 

thanks for the amazing find

 

No way, post a picture/link or it never happened!

That's quite stupid and hard to believe, the power tip is not rated at such power :|

edit: found it! Amazon.com: Asus Original 230W Replacement AC adapter for Asus W90V Series Notebook model: W90, W90V, W90VN, W90VP, W90vp-a1, W90vp-a2, W90vp-x1, W90vp-x2, Asus All in one PC model: ET2400XVT Series . 100% Compatible With 90-NGCPW6000Y, 04G266008710,

 

That's the one.

As far as I can tell the whole W90 series used a 5.5mm/2.5mm connector including the W90VP. The all in one does too and its listed as compatible.

 

Yeah, crazy finding, well done! +rep ofc

 

Hah, that's nothing like hunting down for elusive Acer graphics cards.

If you are not 100% convinced yet i'll be getting it soon and will be able to confirm it for people.

 

Im one of those thread stalkers that will appreciate the update

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