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    Reduce p170hm fan noise

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Dheed, Mar 27, 2012.

  1. Dheed

    Dheed Newbie

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    Hi,
    personally I found the fan noise very very very very very annoying,maybe because before I had a desktop pc and the fans were a little bit distant from me,anyway is there a way to reduce the noise?
    I opened the panel on the back and the fans look like two normal fans that can be changed(4 screws and one wire) otherwise a laptop cooler like Cooler Master Notepal X2 or something similar(any suggestion is accepted) can reduce the fan speed and the noise?
    I read that also the thermal paste can do the difference but I bought this laptop in february
    Thanks.
     
  2. Dheed

    Dheed Newbie

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    With firefox and/or origin opened the fan speed is about 40%...
     
  3. Support.3@XOTIC PC

    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    hi Dheed, welcome to NBR!
    Do you have a temp monitor program going to see what the cpu/gpu temps are? If they fans are spinning faster then they should you could have air circulation problems. The intake fans on are on the bottom so make sure you dont have them blocked. Always use it on a flat surface so you dont block those vents. A notebook cooler is ideal but that will probably just add fan noise.
     
  4. Anthony@MALIBAL

    Anthony@MALIBAL Company Representative

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    In addition to what Hutsady said, if you've always noticed the fan noise, then it's probably the normal noise for the system. Only if it's gotten louder or more noticeable is there an issue. You can try repasting the machine yourself with Arctic Silver/MX4/IC Diamond as well, as that should lower temps 4-5C at least (which means the fans may not need to spin up as often). It's a simple process and only requires a screwdriver.

    Other than that, there aren't many things you can do to lower fan noise except for undervolting which can be dangerous if you haven't done so before. These machines are performance machines and need decent cooling, there's just no easy way around it :(
     
  5. Dheed

    Dheed Newbie

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    Hi, the tempratures of the CPU are around 40°C and the one of the GPU is 55°.
    I'm going to repaste the CPU,but if if unplug one fan connector and I add a notebook cooler the noise will reduce?Obviously I will not use the laptop to play.
    Does someone know the noise level of the fans?Because I read that the noise level of the zalman is about 17 dba,is it higher or lower?
     
  6. Anthony@MALIBAL

    Anthony@MALIBAL Company Representative

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    You'll probably get an increase in noise from the cooler and significantly higher temperatures overall if you unplug the internal fans. I'd never recommend unhooking the internal fans as an external cooler can't cool anywhere near as well as they can (since it's not mounted directly to the heatpipes).
     
  7. Dheed

    Dheed Newbie

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    So the only thing that I can try is the undervolting right? I found online a tutorial to undervolt the CPU with RMclock is 'safe' to use that software to undervolt the cpu?
    Is it sufficent to reduce,even a little bit,the noise fan?
    However if you have got a good a good How to,can you give me the link?
    Thanks
     
  8. Dheed

    Dheed Newbie

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    Otherwise there no way to change the fan with a quieter one?
     
  9. contradude

    contradude Notebook Consultant

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    Not really unfortunately. This is the price we pay for having more computing power than the entire early '90s continental USA in our backpacks :p. I truthfully don't hear my fans very often unless I'm gaming and then I have a set of headphones on. Also going to second applying IC Diamond 7 to your laptop for slightly slower fan speeds.

    RMClock was an amazing piece of software for intel core 2 processors (it's still running on my dell xps m1530 with nv8600 overclocked) but hasn't been upgraded for the core i7 series. No easy way to undervolt at this time :-/

    Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk
     
  10. arg8

    arg8 Notebook Consultant

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    I think that's an understatement!

    Unfortunately, there are too many things to do to lower the fan noise...

    Yes, assuming your external cooler fans are comparatively quiet... but unfortunately only until the EC (with the brains of a shtfly, as far as I can tell) executes a hard thermal-safety-shutdown because it doesn't detect fan RPM when it suddenly decides to randomly spin the fans despite the CPU and GPU idling ~37°C, and external cooling much better than what internal fans could possibly provide.

    That is an important point. You need to "force" air through the system with high static pressure.

    There is plenty of room to provide improved cooling by adding heat-sinks on top the CPU and GPU heat spreaders. Airflow in the intake grills can be improved by making better openings. Adding a few ventilation holes through the casing between the power connector and CPU exhaust can provide airflow over an added CPU heatsink.

    I can attest that two Noctua NF-P12 in series in a duct-work that is sealed to the CPU and GPU intake vents (as well as the large vent in-between) is a sufficient setup to render internal CPU and GPU fans practically useless under light to moderate load (e.g. firefox+winamp+ms office). That is: in my setup with i7-2860QM there is no difference in CPU and GPU temperature whether internal fans are stopped or maxed with Fn+1 with power modes set to high performance and GTX 580M forced to P12 state using nVidia Inspector. Idle ~37° @21°C ambient.

    Unfortunately, even with this setup, the CPU fan will still kick-in randomly for no obvious reason. But at least I would say it only spins 20% of the time during typical office use.

    The Noctua's are more quiet than the HDD. With a bit of sound proofing and muffling, my setup now is as quiet as can be when docked in the office.

    ...all the trouble that could be saved by having user-customizable fan tables...

    Dheed:
    If you re-paste, please post your results in comparison with the 40°C/55°C you mentioned.

    There are definitely less loud fans out-there, and I'm sure plenty of quiet ones. But aside from a few crafty modifications to fit them as replacements into the laptop, my only concern would be that they don't have the same peak airflow when maximum cooling is required to maintain top performance. But if you do find a good solution please post your findings.
     
  11. fantomasz

    fantomasz Notebook Deity

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    Clevo 170 is louder than Asus G73?
     
  12. Yiddo

    Yiddo Believe, Achieve, Receive

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    My M11x fan noise will make your 170hm a pleasure to behold. Trust me I own both.

    I personally find it totally acceptable and to keep the GPU fan to off on my 6990M I just have a shortcut to Ctrl O and Ctrl P to switch off powerplay so it sits at 38oC when I am surfing or doing general tasks, it beats the automatic facility.
     
  13. fantomasz

    fantomasz Notebook Deity

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    it's posible to play with fan speed on clevo 170?

    Yiddo,I was asking You about Vortex same as Yours
    notebookguru have 170EM with 675 but with 2nd intels in stock
    maybe I jump on this one
     
  14. Yiddo

    Yiddo Believe, Achieve, Receive

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    Depends if it is worth the price to be honest I dont go for all this rebranding to be honest its all total crap. The 675M with my CPU scores 3555 at stock on 3DMark11 only 50pts more than mine at stock and with my overclocking ability being so high I can easily hit 4100 as per my sig.

    Makes no sense at all people jumping on the new bandwagon so the only thing you are really going to be paying for is the backlit keyboard.