Reflashing with a KN BIOS

Killer Notebooks claims a superior and modified BIOS compared to the standard BIOS offered by Clevo. Any way to obtain one of these and would there be any problems flashing it with a normal M570TU? Wanting that Turbo Boost Button program too...

 

guffaw, keep me informed!!

 

don't see that one happening anytime soon mike. mark is pretty set on NOT letting anyone get his software or bios. and his following does seem pretty loyal...but who knows.....

 

anyone close to me i have full legit phoenix editor software.... im sure we can make a backup if its phoneix, i also have ami tools among others..lol whats his return policy

 

lol

i have pbe pro. i was looking at the np9262 bios, but no menu options for adding the multipliers. now if you have the menu editing software or know where to purchase it from...then by all means...direct me in that direction! "super big grin"

 

May be buy it form him?Lolz

 

i have the whole shebang lol....but its not as easy as just adding the option.. it has to be done correct or you will have a fubar'ed bios, mine is legit but i can tell you it can be found online if you look

 

zfactor, I did some BIOS editing when I had my M570RU and was able to do some neat things with it, but the pheonix BIOS editor I used for that does not seem to work with the M570TU. Can't read it. If I could get my hands on a BIOS editor that supported the M570TU, I might be able to recreate what I had done with the M570RU. Would appreciate any help I can get.

 

I also have the BIOS editor.... almost bricked my notebook by slipstreaming some features into the Clevo BIOS from a similar desktop motherboard's BIOS.

You cant do much except minor changes to aesthetics and slight hardware ID update.

These Clevo D900 BIOS's are way to custom to mess with since they are using a hybrid notebook/desktop platform... as compared to an all-standard mobile platform (Napa, Santa.Rosa, Montevina).

 

can i get a 570tu bios from someone??

 

http://www.mojaveunderground.com/M570TU09.zip

There ya go! Latest version

 

bios editor is only part of it. the menu editor is the other half of the it. it's the program to create the menu's them selves or unlock you original ones. when looking at the data which can be implemented into your bios...the multiplier equations are there, but you can't just go hit enable and they show. you need the menu editor to open and edit the correct regions. your not importing anything your only adding the lines and then linking them to the formula already there. in the older ami bios, they had their own version of the menu editor.where you could go in and create your bios menu, but now for the phoenix and trusted core or secure core.... it's a bit different.

so any more insight on this would definitely be appreciated. all i need to do is add 1 line and that's it. i have an extreme cpu, so by default..it's multipliers are unlocked. if i add the multiplier region starting from 6 to 31....im in it to win it. and don't think for a minute i haven't been trying to do just that. *LOL*

 

LOL.... you wanna OC that Extreme CPU.... I can help you with that.

I also have an unlock CPU, successfully OC'ed it... without the BIOS.

the key is RMclock, it will detect your CPU... and if it identifies it correctly, it will unlock all the multipliers for the CPU.

Then you can easily OC the CPU with the FID (multipliers) and VID (voltage).

If your CPU is too new, then RMclock might not be able to give you the unlocked multipliers to play with. Then you would have to wait for an updated version.

My FX-60... stock 2.6GHz... has been stable OC'ed through RMclock at 3.2GHz with 1.35v

I set RMclock to performance on demand so its not always running at the full OC'ed speed... its set to downclock to 1.00GHz @ 1.10v when I am doing little things, then it throttles to full speed when needed.

 

then mine must be too new or something because it does not show the unlocked multipliers. i tried gophn.

if you can help me with this...i think i can surpass the 17k mark

 

RMclock is due for an update to support the new:
- Intel's Montevina platform CPUs
- AMD's Puma platform CPUs
- desktop 45nm multi-core CPUs
... upcoming Core i7

The RMclock forum has many requests for support with these CPUs.

 

Same thing for me. RM Clock does not allow anything above the set multiplier of 13x

 

Any idea when we are expecting an update?

 

Looks like never.

We spoke to the RMclock guys already and given our support.. The development team has broken up and busy with their lives. They do not have the time to update RMclock whilst not getting payed for it. RMclock was just a project to begin with anyway..

NHC has more chances of being updated.

 

I am guessing when Core i7 has matured a bit.

They seem to do yearly updates.... but now I believe the programmers broke up.

It would be nice if they can release the source codes and let the community update the CPU support for it.

 

let me look at this bios while im at my office today. i dont have the menu editor here at home

 

I was under the assumption they had quit development. There has not been any web development on their part for a very long time.

Look forward to seeing what you've got. If you can get your applications to read the bios, I wouldn't mind a copy of the programs.

 

I wouldnt mind the applications either zfactor. Or at least a place to get them. Are you able to look at the 9262's bios also? Of course emike09 goes first, its his thread, but I was just seeing if your open to that.

 

im going to pass this on as well to a few guys i know who should be able to take care of this. i have seen them do some crazy stuff with phoenix bios'.. ill see what they say also

 

of course i can look at the bios. i have already been inside the 9262 bios. i am unsure if i can change what needs to be though with the tools i have. ill know more tomm

john pm me the changes you are looking to make

 

Now KN also is able to overclock the FSB, something SetFSB claimed was impossible. Unlocking the multiplier provides great advantages for increasing the CPU speed and still being able to hold a dedicated overclock on the video card, but the speed CPU, FSB, and RAM overclock advantages are far superior to that of a simple multiplier increase, if a GPU overclock does not matter.

So if KN can overclock the FSB, I know if must be possible. SetFSB has just gotten lazy and does not want to develop anymore. Just like everybody else...

 

SetFSB can OC the FSB... but that does not do as well as just increasing the unlocked multipliers without having to push the notebook memory.

You can try to join the RMclock development team to help with the next update... I wish my programming was better.

 

what version of editor are you trying to use mike

 

brutally and deliciously candid.

 

not really sure about all that, because when they bios over clock, everything seems to move along with it. and if it's just multiplier then the fsb wouldn't move and neither would the rest of the system. i have yet to see a 3.anything without that fsb moving (3.06 not included). (now i could be wrong! and this is very well open for debate)

we'll do sir.

 

The PM45 chipset is not compatible with SetFSB. I've spoken extensively with the SetFSB developer and he claims it is not possible, and would not be supporting PM45. And until we can figure out a way to OC the FSB, increasing the multiplier is the next best thing.

If I could help RMclock develop, I would. Sign me up!

The BIOS editor? I don't recall, as I dumped the program a while back. I'm sure I'm completely wrong, but 4.2 comes to mind.

 

If you want to get some serious geek street cred and help your fellow geeks get the most out of their CPUs....

Try to join the RMclock development:
(if they are still accepting more help, which they should)
[email protected]

 

I think you're wrong. I can oc'ed mine with SetFSB. I got 2.8 ghz stable.

 

Email sent

 

Technically, the RTM876-660 PLL (Belonging to the GIGABYTE GA-TG965MP-RH) will increase the FSB. I brought this up with the SetFSB developer, but he refused to give that PLL credit for the overclock. Again, him just being too lazy to develop, IMO. However, I found overclocking with that while I had my P9500 to be pretty unstable, even with stock GPU clocks. Ended up with a ton of corruption and eventually decided it wasn't worth it. That PLL also does not function when running an Extreme edition CPU. BSOD's the system as soon as the clocks kick in. So while it is possible to OC the PM45 with SetFSB using certain CPUs, it is not stable, nor does it give any control over the amount of overclock gained.

 

but mine is very stable with 2.8 ghz oc'ed. also passed orthos for 4 hours. I didn't used RTM876-660 for Oc'ed but I can't remember the PLL. Does it only has problem with clevo systems?

 

Well perhaps it has something to do with the Whitebook being a little bit different from the Sager NP5796 or the M570TU. Its been discussed in the SetFSB thread for some time, nobody has ever been able to get the PM45 from a clevo system to OC with anything but RTM876-660, and it has not been stable for us.

 

sending my email in a bit. still working.

and why don't you give mike the pll you used so he can test it out on his... should only take about 3 seconds to find out if it's going to even work.

 

because I don't have my laptop with me now. I'll see and tell him when I back home. oh my pll is the same as E-wrecked post at OCZ forum.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=325944 look at this thread

 

thanks hottestzephyr!

 

Yes, thanks. That PLL doesn't work though. Tried it and gt the same error as the rest of the PLLs.

 

As far as further overclocking of the X9100 is concerned, at 3.5GHz, the standard voltage is set to 1.2625v. When using RMclock to adjust voltages, the 3.5GHz is stable down to 1.2v. With that much voltage overhead, and so long as cooling is sufficient, a multiplier increase to 14x or even up to 16x is very possible. 4GHz is not out of the question for the X9100, IMO. Thats the main thing I want to work on with the BIOS mod.

 

I can only run my X9000@ 266x13 @ >1.37V....Even 1.4V is not 100% stable....1.2V is really good.

 

1.37v? That doesn't sound right. Should be a lot lower than that. In RMClock, do you have it set to read as a mobile chip?

 

Yes 1.37v sounds like its in Desktop mode.

Check your Advanced CPU settings page.

 

Just spoke with the Rightmark developer. Looks like he DOES plan on continuing development for RMClock.

 

i got that same exact email mike. i just replied back to him

 

Lol, looks like he really doesn't have time if you guys got the same email. Anyway, help the brother out as much as you possibly can. We need this RMclock for the montevina chips.

 

im trying to get this thing to work with the 9262

 

That there is a little bit out of my league, but I'll start researching it a bit and see what I can find. Phenom sucks, so its not getting my support

 

I´m not using RMclock but hardware Pinmod. @266x13 @default voltage it even didn´t boot into windows......