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    Regarding temps on p750dm2-g and other questions

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Synzgrsck, Jan 5, 2017.

  1. Synzgrsck

    Synzgrsck Newbie

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    Hello guys. I'm new here, this is my first post.

    I am currently looking for a new laptop that can handle most of my video encoding and editing tasks. I figured out I'd need one with a good and powerful CPU since my last laptop with the 6700hq wasn't really cutting it. After doing some research I found this one, which fits tightly in my budget and actually seems like a nice build and deal:

    http://www.eluktronics.com/p750dm2-g-RTS-512gb-16gb

    Now, I would like to ask you guys some questions regarding this machine:

    1- Does it get too hot when loaded? This is really important for me.
    2- How is the build quality compared to other Clevos and MSI GT series?
    3- Are these machines upgradable?
    4- Do you guys think that is a good deal? If not could you please redirect me to one with a desktop CPU?
    5- How is the Eluktronics quality control and customer service? I have read some good reviews.

    Thank you very much guys, happy new year.
     
  2. Prostar Computer

    Prostar Computer Company Representative

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    Welcome, @Synzgrsck!

    The 6700K certainly can. A good thermal paste can avoid excessively high temps. What do you consider "hot"?

    It's great from my personal opinion, but not sure which "other Clevos" you might be comparing it to. Construction quality is pretty solid, though.

    The CPU and video card are modular, so you do have some freedom (as well as with the RAM, WLAN card, and storage drives). 7th gen CPUs just became available, too. :vbwink:

    If it's brand new, then it's a steal!

    Can't comment on this one.
     
  3. Synzgrsck

    Synzgrsck Newbie

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    Thank you for your reply. I guess anything above high 80s and 90 would be too hot, but I am not really sure.
    Also, could you please explain what do you mean by modular? I suppose you say these are not soldered and can be extracted, am I right?
    I do think it is brand new, although it doesn't say anything anywhere in the website (but also it doesnt say anything about it being refurbished)
     
  4. Prostar Computer

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    You're almost certainly going to exceed 80 Celsius with a 6700K under load, that's quite normal - but still safe. Maybe a delidded processor would stay in the high 70s to low 80s.

    And yes, modular = removable. The CPU and GPU are not soldered/surface mounted.

    It's a pretty good deal. I think an identically configured machine would sell for closer, if not over, $2K anywhere else.
     
  5. Synzgrsck

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    Thank you very much, friend. Have a nice day.

    Looking forward to read some impressions by owners!
     
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    austinL Notebook Enthusiast

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    Would undervolting stop the temps from going that high, something like -0.2 or -0.1? I'm about to get this processor myself, but don't want to deal with overheating problems if it can be avoided.
     
  7. i_pk_pjers_i

    i_pk_pjers_i Even the ppl who never frown eventually break down

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    Yes, undervolting would help temps and underclocking would help even more if you are willing to sacrifice a small amount of performance for better thermals.

    edit: 1000 posts, woo!!!
     
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  8. Prostar Computer

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    Undervolting will help more than underclocking will. Start off with small, incremental changes if you try it, and leave the clocks as they are. Too far and you'll begin seeing instability.

    Delidded CPUs are another option, and you may not need to undervolt at all with one of those.
     
  9. bennyg

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    Start with a -100mV undervolt and go down from there. Stress testing to make sure it's stable. It should help temps greatly.

    Also, if you sleep or hibernate, you should use throttlestop. Bios and XTU settings are not reapplied on resume so you will lose the undervolt.

    With liquid metal or a good paste and undervolt you will see good temps without needing to delid.

    That said... Wasnt your upgrade happening because the 6700hq wasnt fast enough to encode? Do you want to overclock, or keep it cool? Delid lowers temps by 10-20C, or allows you to go beyond 4.5ghz without thermal throttling (I'm generalising)

    At stock the 6700K will beat an un-thermal-throttled 6700HQ by at least 25% and you can widen the margin further with overclocking