Reliable old buddy...Terra Smartbook Predator Extreme (Clevo M570TU)

This one is a little old, but still perfectly working and I'm fully satisfied with it.
Also I think it's the best choise for its price.

Little specifications:
display - 1900x1200
processor - X9100 3.05-3.46 GHz
graphics card - 9800M GTX (bios with higher volts and clocks)
4GB DDR3 1066
HDD - WD 500GB 7200rpm
Intel turbo memory 2GB
DVD Multi/BD reader
and so on....

With OC 595/1420/895 (fully stable and flashed into bios) 3DMark06 - 11859, 3DMarkVant - 6395 which is very good despite his age))
Clocks still can be a little raised.
GPU idle temp is 41-45C. After 10 minets of FurMark temp is 77C.

 

Indeed!

 

One little question.... As I understand there is no reasonable difference in performance between GTX 280M and GTX 9800M ? Am I wright?

 

The 280M is about 10-12% faster depending on application and runs cooler by about 2-3C . Also the 280M is less susceptible to performance degrading due to heat.

 

Now I see. Thanks!

 

Did you add those little blue things yourself?

 

Yes. To stick them I was using thermal glue on the edges and thermal paste in the center.

 

Nice silver finish!

You know, the silver ones are highly likely to support the extreme quad cores, q9200 and qx9300. Might want to look into that!

 

Do they actually help?

 

What do you meen? You think my motherboard could support quad core processors?

 

-2/3C under load. Not much, but at least something))

 

Yes.
Unlike many laptops that simply have the pm45 chipset and support quads because they have 1066mhz bus rate, a lot of Clevos and other high performance systems have multiple motherboard revisions for core 2 quads.

The m570tu is one of these.
For the most part, the ones with the sliver finish were a later version, and actually called the m571tu which definitely support quad cores.

For the m860tu it was much more difficult to tell because they all had silver finish. However it makes it easier if it was bought with a gtx 260m which is a much newer graphics card.

The MSI gx620/gt627 was another laptop like this, and there is a visible difference of power components on the motherboard. I bought one of these and I simply got lucky... just as you may have

You can confirm if you post the revision which is on a sticker on a RAM slot.

 

Ok. I will just look for the revision))

 

Here are my stickers. There are two of them. One under first RAM slot and another under second one.

 

Yeah, as far as I remember if you had the "-1" in it it supported quadcores, and "V3.0B-1" did it.
You can put in a q9000, q9100 (q9200) and qx9300.

 

That would be nice if it really supports quads.

 

Found that in the "archive":
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...tu-etu-sager-5796-5797-owners-thread-109.html

 

Thanks a lot, really informative! Now I will just ask Blacky about this, cos he wrote a lot about quad core support in that thread. Blacky has qx9300 processor in his Clevo M570ETU laptop with V3.0B-1 motherboard and my laptop is Clevo M570TU with V3.0B-1 motherboard. That's why it has to be clarified))

 

Hi! I have a one question. How do you think, my Clevo M570TU with V3.0B-1 motherboard can support quad care processors?
I have add picture with stickers under my RAM slots...

 

Your laptop should be compatible with any Core 2 Duo Qaud core CPU.
My advice is to try as much as possible and get an OEM CPU, not some cheap ES.

 

Thanks for advice! Will find quad core processor and try it out.

 

Go for a q9200, but avoid QAJF because it has no temp sensors.

 

I wonder if I could add those small blue and grey heat sinks to my old 5793 to help control temperature.

 

Why not... But those small blue and grey heat sinks are made from aluminium, if you will use heat sinks made from cooper it would be much better.

 

old machine has better heat sink

 

What do you mean?

Also is there any place to buy these special heat sinks?

 

As for me, everything looks the same. Only a heatsink plate on the processor has a form of triangle and that's it. Or I'm mistaking?

 

Such heatsinks can be found in computer shops, often they are sold like heatsinks for video card memory chips.

 

Can I change multiplayer in bios with this CPU? Or I will have to go only for QX series to do such thing?

 

The Q9200 does have an unlocked multiplier, not sure if you can change it in the bios or not. But you can change it in windows using throttlestop.

ES versions of the Q9100 also have unlocked multipliers.

 

The Q9200s that I have tested had an unlocked multiplier but they ran much hotter than the QX9300 and were unstable (random freezes and slow-downs). I also had a QX9300 ES, but eventually I got an OEM. The OEM runs 5C cooler than the ES without any freezes or slow-downs (the QX9300 ES didn't freez but it did have random slow-downs).

One of the veterans of our forum, Soviet Sunrise, has done more research into this matter and has confirmed that there are differences between ES CPUs and OEM CPUs, basically confirming that what I have experienced was not an isolated case.

 

So the best choice is QX9300 EOM And what is top CPU clocks which can be set in Bios for QX9300 on M570TU ?

And also want to ask. Do all M570TU owners have a loud CPU cooler, or it's only mine?

 

Is there a link?

Because in another post he said:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/har.../392975-x9300-upgrade-es-oem.html#post4998737

He has also said:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/5144004-post29.html

 

Using the BIOS settings, the max speed that can be reached for both the QX9300 or the Q9200 is 2.93 GHz.

Here Moral Hazard: http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/463162-core-i7-940xm-comes-q3-2010-just-time-5.html
and my post: http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...xm-comes-q3-2010-just-time-4.html#post5957768

You can go through the whole thread if you wish.

 

And What about CPU cooler, is yours loud too?

 

There is one more thing I want to ask.
I set GPU shader clocks to 1420 or even higher and when I start GPU-Z sensor tab, it shows that maximum used shader clock is 1400.
Why is it so? Or 1400 is a MAX for my 9800M GTX?

 

My coolers are loud as well, it's normal.
Probably your shaders weren't sent even though you thought so.

 

No, they were set. Here it is seen in CPU-Z, and aida64 shows the same...

 

I have no idea then.

 

Now everything is ok. From 1400 to 1449 nothing changed. Wneb I set 1450 it worked. So I decided that 1500 will be ok)))

 

The QAVR Q9200 is a great chip.

 

Ok. When I will sell my GTX 480M, I will think about buying a quad core CPU

 

Question:
I have two Qimonda 2GB (2 ranks, 8 banks) DDR3-1066 7-7-7-20 RAM modules. Want to upgrade it to some better. Will I have some performance boost, or there is no need in upgrading it?
If yes, then which RAM would you recommend for upgrade?
And how it is better, to use one 4GB RAM module, or two 2GB modules?

 

For gaming, it doesn't matter. Honestly, RAM is RAM.

 

I think the same Just wanted to know, maybe there was a difference..

 

And what is the maximum amount of RAM in my system?
Aida64 says 8GB, is it right?

 

That is correct, but it is said that it will only be able to use 6.4 GB. I am looking to upgrade to 8 GB but I have yet to get my hands on tht 8 GB HyperX kit.

 

Great!!! And if I use Windows7 32bit, will there be any use of those 8Gb RAM? Or with 32bit Windows7 there is no need to go for those 8Gb RAM.

And additional question. It is better to use one bigger RAM stick (8GB), or two smaller (2x2GB)?

 

Windows 7 32bit won't make use of more than 4GB for the system (overall total). If you got 8GB, you'd end up wasting half of it. If you can get a copy of 64 bit Windows, then you'd be able to make use of all of it

There's a marginal increase if you use 2 similar sticks of RAM versus one large stick because of it being dual channel. It's not a significant amount though.