Repasting your Sager (video) - NP7330 as Example

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Just because. Some people are afraid to do it, showing you it isn't that difficult.

 

Thanks for posting!

 

Kudos to you for sharing. A lot of people can benefit from this.

 

great video. thanks for posting.

 

is actual paste the only thing you can use or can you use the thermal paste stickers too and still have success?: 10pcs Thermal Conductive Paste Stickers Tapes Heat Sink for CPU Video Memory DDR | eBay

Also, why does xoticpc charge $35 dollars for ic diamond application when it only costs $6 to $17 dollars and the remainder from the tube wasn't given to you?

 

Probably because they use the whole tube instead of doing it proper and to make profit.

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Using the whole tube wouldnt be very profitable

 

I would avoid those tapes at all cost. They will not do a good job on a hot thermal component like a CPU or GPU.

XoticPC charges for people that don't want to or are afraid to do it themselves. They probably hate me now.

I think I could make some decent side money just by doing simple things like repasting desktops and laptops.

And damn these model numbers. I keep stumbling over them with the Sager and Clevo ones, NP..9..7..33..0..8 whatever... lol

 

A few reasons I see to charge $35 for paste. People will pay it due to convenience, the total cost for them isn't just the paste, someone needs to be paid to do it, and they deserve to turn a profit for a good service offered.

It seems reasonable to me, I just like to do my own paste jobs so I wouldn't pay for it.

Thanks for the video HT, as always, great work!

 

So which paste is the internet's 'best of the best', the IC Diamond used here?

 

That would be Liquid Ultra, but please stay away from it until you know what you're getting yourself into.

 

is there anything like liquid ultra with the near same performance that doesn't hurt your mobo if it is dropped on it?

also, op, can you do a video concerning processor and motherboard upgrading?

 

GC gelid extreme is a good choice. Noctua nt h1 is a good choice and much easier to put on. Arctic silver is middle of the road but probably easier to apply. There are lots of good brands. Get the one that is the best available to you. But also choose according to skill level. There are many decent begginer pastes. Some harder than others and others need to have experience. As rhutor said liquid ultra is the best but hardest to apply and also most dangerous to apply as one drop in the wrong place can make your motherboard toast.

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And Gelid doesn't scratch or turn into sand overtime right? I'm looking for one that has long life like ic diamond with performance close to liquid ultra, that doesn't scratch or hurt the mobo. If IC diamond only scratches during rough removable and not just easily every time, then I may just stick to that. I asked because the charts on google images are a couple of years behind; just wanted to make sure I was being up to date.

 

Honestly Liquid Ultra is in a league of its own, any other paste will result in temps that are at the very least 5C higher.

That said, IC Diamond seems to be the one that's consistently recommended as a good and durable paste, although as you said it will etch dies if you're not careful in removing it. I'm boycotting it for personal reasons, so if I'm not using Liquid Ultra I go for my trusty tube of MX-4. (though performance seems to degrade after a month)

 

No. Gelid, noctua and arctic silver should be safe for at least a year. I've used shin etsu also but it seems hard to find these days. Worked well. All the ones I mention are good for at least a year. I usually repaste twice a year but have been known to push 12months. The gelid is challenging to put on, but if you let it warm up in a plastic bag in boiling water you're gravy.

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K, thanks guys.

 

What you pay for in a shop application is labour and testing.

 

I'd love to believe that but resellers or people in a position to paste many computers can buy far bigger tubes. And I haven't seen one company, sager included, apple especially, properly paste a xPU from the factory. Every teardown I've seen, including mine it's a big wasteful glob. I haven't made a big deal about it because it didn't ruin anything and did it's job fine. I try to get the least amount possible squeezed out the sides for efficiency's sake and too much can be detrimental to temps.

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^^^^ that and profit. But some resellers throw the tube in the box when done though as mentioned before I think sometimes all of it is used and there's nothing to throw in. Lol.

I think $35 is a fair price. Not to me personally because I'm not scared to open up a computer and get my hands dirty. For people that are scared, don't know how, don't want to and aren't bothered enough to learn the $35 is money well spent. But if you do know or want to learn that $35 is much better spent on a couple tubes of high quality TIM and a small electronics toolkit or screwdriver set.

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Sry but where is the link to the video.

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Give a man a fish...

Seriously though, I stopped tinkering with computers way back in 2004 after I ditched my desktop and went the way of mobility completely. After I purchased my P370SM in Nov 2013, I realized that routine maintenance would be crucial to the longevity of such a high performance laptop. I was definitely pretty anxious about opening up and messing around with a $3500 machine, so I started reading a lot, while tinkering with my old laptop on the side to build confidence and gain familiarity with mobile components. IMO one should really gain a basic understanding of the inner workings and basic maintenance of a laptop. Knowing how to fix minor issues by yourself (and with the help of forums like NBR) and not having to rely on tech support goes a long way.

 

A lot of the same principles from a desktop transfer over to notebooks as well. If you were comfortable doing a desktop you should be OK.

 

Yep. I think the public would be well served buying a fishing pole and learning how to fish rather than buying a fish at the market. Of course many people still don't realize their computing, however minor it may be is still well served by maintaining it. I tell some people that it's basically the equivalent to changing your oil and air filter in a car and I get laughed at, but I am still the first they call when their computer is running like molasses or worse, shutting down not long after a fresh boot/reboot. Of course you already know 90% of the time their vents looks like a vacuum cleaner filter. The other times they need a ram upgrade because their usage is exceeding their ram capability. And I am not a salesman by any means but I still haven't convinced one person yet that the biggest upgrade these days is a ssd upgrade. Then I show them my computer and they STILL don't believe that it's a ssd putting the turbos to serious use. And I am not a tinkerer on PC/laptops really. Most people want to overclock. I want to undervolt to get the best mpg out my electronocs I can. It is what it is.

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True. But there are still many laptops that are not user serviceable friendly and they might be but it voids the warranty. The OEM's that enforce user maintenance voids warranty aren't helping the problem. We can give a big share of the thanks to apple across the electronics market board for that.

Anyways, sager/clevo are a major reason why I am brand loyal to them and I am not really a brand loyal person usually. Their service, warranty, user friendly maintenance, exceptional cooling (usually, not always) and reseller support and service are all good reasons I stick by them. I wish sager was a little more well known for obvious reasons, but OTOH sometimes it's nice having/owning/knowing what a niche brand like sager with no marketing brings to the table. It's also definitely really nice the reseller reps are all equivocally great coming to boards to like these and giving a certain minimum level of service to sager owners, even when not bought directly from X reseller. I would like to think that the reps all recognize even if X user is not directly supporting them monetarily, in the grand scheme of things they indirectly are putting long term quality and market on the table and that is what makes sager a tall standing brand. You won't find that with dell, HP, apple or any other major brand.

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In the first post.

Here it is: Clevo W230ST W230SS Sager NP7330 7338 Repaste with IC Diamond - YouTube

 

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Well we don't demand to know who you got a machine e from before helping or refuse to help those with another brand in their sig

 

True but all the components and therefore the margin for error become much smaller. A high degree of finesse is required, especially for plastic consumer grade laptops that come with a thousand plastic clips that you could send flying any second if you don't open it up with just the right amount of force with just the right angle.

 

Which is why clevo/sager machines are cool, they are not full of plastic clips, remove a single hatch and you are good to go.